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Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1031
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 1:36 am: | 
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I was bored and looked up Maplewood and South Orange on wikipedia. I found this quote:
"South Orange and Maplewood share one of the largest online communities in the nation, featuring a very active message board at www.maplewoodonline.com."
I thought that was interesting. Now I have to get back to work. |
Monster©
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 2585
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 1:45 am: |
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yes |
justmelaura
Citizen
Username: Justmelaura
Post Number: 455
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 1:49 am: |
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All Hail Kings Dave & Jamie |
Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 3641
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 6:42 am: |
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bets
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Username: Bets
Post Number: 22843
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 8:36 am: |
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I saw Jamie on Channel 4 this morning! |
Lucy
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Username: Lucy
Post Number: 3220
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 8:38 am: |
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Really what was the interview about? |
bets
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Username: Bets
Post Number: 22845
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 8:40 am: |
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It was a piece about the difficulty unknown actors face trying to get into the game. He wasn't actually interviewed; he was captured on camera at a casting call. |
Monster©
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 2591
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:46 am: |
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perfect |
Shanabana
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Username: Shanabana
Post Number: 278
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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I'm sure Dave and Jamie, or one of us MOL addicts put the info about MOL on there...Not that there's anything wrong with that... |
Project 37
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Username: Project37
Post Number: 27
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:00 pm: |
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That's how my wife and I found this site! 
I should get back to work, too... |
CLK
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Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 2060
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 1:28 pm: |
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I couldn't find the info about maplewood online. Did somebody change it already?
Link please? |
Pizzaz
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Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 3363
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 2:41 pm: |
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Hey, CLK... welcome back.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Orange%2C_New_Jersey
There's a statement under Trivia stating the quote from above. |
CLK
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Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 2061
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 2:42 pm: |
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Thank Pizzaz!
(did I go someplace and forget about it already??
Oh I guess I gave myself a time-out for a few days - didn't last long ... never does ... but I can give it up any time, really ... ) |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 8962
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 2:53 pm: |
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We didn't add that information (but I would have if I had time to do so)  |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13171
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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What would prevent Joe Average from writing a biographical page about himself on wikipedia? I was looking at a wikipedia page about Sarah Harmer who isn't quite famous yet. I thought she's there because she's almost famous. But who can't say something noteworthy about oneself?
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 7035
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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If you look up Maplewood and read the whole thing, you'll see that the description of the downtown includes a reference to too many nail salons.
I really wonder who did it. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 8964
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:35 pm: |
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You can click on the History tab and see all of the edits, when they happened and who made them. |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13172
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:35 pm: |
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greenetree, any number of people can contribute to wikipedia articles. And why who else but Maplewoodians would write the one on Maplewood?
Maybe you could write about the debate among gays and lesbians in Maplewood over whether to hang a rainbow flag. I'm sure you could weave in your humorous twists to that or some similar topic.
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CLK
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Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 2063
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:38 pm: |
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I just took out the reference to nail salons.
If you don't like this, you can put it back in. Anybody can. That's how a Wiki works. |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13173
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:41 pm: |
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Did that line tick you off somehow?
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 7036
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:41 pm: |
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Tom - the problem with that is that I can't honestly say that the debate is limited to lesbians and gays. There are a number of str8 people who have strong opinions on the matter as well.....
So, does this mean that anything on Wikipedia should be researched if you want validated information? |
CLK
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Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 2064
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:42 pm: |
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Tom - no. It was just kind of weird, sitting out there without any context for strangers visiting the page. And I've always wanted to change something on wikipedia. |
CLK
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Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 2065
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 3:46 pm: |
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Greenetree - yes. I don't allow students to use it as a reference in their papers. I've told them that they can use it to get ideas, but then they have to find credible references to use in their papers.
It's not a hard and fast rule; there are times when I let them use wikipedia. But not often. |
LazyDog
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Username: Lazydog
Post Number: 194
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 6:12 pm: |
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Why would wikipedia reference maplewoodonline.com when searching for South Orange when there is a southorangevillage.com ?? I'm hoping this is just to make SO'ers feel a little bit more inferior  |
doulamomma
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Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1274
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 6:46 pm: |
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Kevin Spacey lives in SO? I love him! |
Suzanne Ng
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Username: Suzanneng
Post Number: 679
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 7:02 pm: |
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doulamomma, he doesn't live here now, but according to www.imdb.com, was born here.
"Kevin Spacey Fowler was the youngest of three children born to Thomas and Kathleen Fowler in South Orange, New Jersey. His mother was a personal secretary, his father a technical writer whose irregular job prospects led the family all over the country. They eventually settled in southern California,.. " |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6066
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 8:28 pm: |
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Hey look closely at the community section of Maplewoods Wikipedia entry...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maplewood%2C_New_Jersey
proof anyone can add anything Those are some major motion pictures shot right here in Maplewood. |
MichaelaM
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Username: Mayquene
Post Number: 134
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:12 pm: |
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I see Wikipedia as less than authorititative -- but a good place to start. Just take what you read with a healthy dose of cynicism.
Take this example, cited in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution earlier this month:
President Bush's Wikipedia listing is the most rewritten and frequently vandalized of all the millions of articles posted on the site, Wikipedia's Wayne Saewyc said. Pages on abortion and global warming are virtual rhetorical battlegrounds. Then there were the pranksters who changed the height listed for Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and raised the age of 86-year-old Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) to more than 100.http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/0313wiki.html |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 8966
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:23 pm: |
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Yeah, but the important entries are fairly authoritative. |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5223
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:52 pm: |
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I just revisited the "Maplewood" entry on Wikipedia, per Duncan's suggestion.
Duncan - Way to go! |
MichaelaM
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Username: Mayquene
Post Number: 137
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:21 pm: |
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If something isn't important, "fairly authoritative" doesn't seem good enough.
I suppose the counter argument here is that a person shouldn't use an encylopedia for something important anyway.
Not that I don't like Wikipedia, but I wonder at what point it becomes this behemoth thing with so many tenticles it becomes less and less accurate to the point of being outright unreliable. Seems bound to happen. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 8968
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:32 pm: |
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Wikipedia is often more authoritative than written and printed encyclopedias.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Errors_in_the_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannic a_that_have_been_corrected_in_Wikipedia |
CLK
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Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 2069
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 8:42 am: |
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I have read similar things about wikipedia, and do in fact believe that the information "tends to" be pretty good.
However, I still don't allow it as a reference in student papers. First, as somebody else said, using an encyclopedia for a college-level paper is really not a good idea. Second, one of the things I require is that the author of every source be identified, and the author has known credentials. Third, "tends to" be very good is not good enough.
I am terribly interested in the concept of wikis though, and the existence of these may radically alter how we think about authorial credibility and the editorial process. I don't think anybody knows how this will play out, and I haven't decided if this is a generally good or generally dangerous thing. (possibly it's both.) |
Alleygater
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Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1420
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 10:06 am: |
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MichaelaM: The beauty of Wikis is that it is easier (takes less energy) to fix an entry (by rolling back in the history) than it is to vandalize something.
And while pages upon abortion are "battlegrounds" what ends up staying on the page is usually a general consensus by both sides where everyone's opinion eventually stays on the page, even if it is re-written a million times. Does that mean the page and content is bad? No not necessarily. Does that mean that technology is bad? No, not at all. I see it as the democratization of information. I think it's cool.
I totally see why CLK wouldn't want students using it as "authoritative" data though. |
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