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MeAndTheBoys
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What are the regulations?

Because I want me one of these:

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those are gigantic Daffadils!
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MeAndTheBoys
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regular size daffodils and a teeny-weeny 5-day-old baby goat. She was so delicious I almost brought her home, but somehow, I don't think they're allowed here! Besides, they grow up to be big goats, and they aren't so cute.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If people can have pet pigs, why can't you have a pet goat?

Wait! May you have pet pigs in Maplewood? Lord knows you can have load barking dogs...

It is awfully cute...
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What the heck is load barking?
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My chilly fingers typing "loud" incorrectly!

Hmmm...load bearing? Load bearing dogs?
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought it was a goat in a cat suit.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think adult goats are cute, too. But whatever the laws are, you may need more land than you have. And I'm not sure a loan goat is a good idea. They are social and need companionship.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What the heck is a loan goat?
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Geez. Cynicalgirl and I are telepathing spelling errors to each other. I meant a lone goat. Must have been the spelling of the word "goat" which led me that way. Yeah, that's the ticket.

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I actually thought you meant a lawn goat.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you borrow a goat and it hangs in your yard, you have your loan lawn goat.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And if it's the only goat on your lawn that you borrowed, it's your lone loan lawn goat.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And if you borrow one goat, make a carving of it in marble, paint it dark with some muted, mottled colors and stick it in your yard, you've got

a lone roan stone loan lawn goat.

God. It's only Tuesday..........
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red
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Me, all I read was the baby goat was so delicious....... yummy goat! :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

makes a good roti, mon.

mem? where are you when we need you?
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps, if you are not allowed to have a goat because you don't have enough land, you could have a "goat co-op" -- you and your neighbors could let the goat hang out in your lawn during different times - you'd cut down on landscaping costs.
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red
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 5:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hank, I am sure you can come up with something, after all you were talking about having more dinner parties.
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MeAndTheBoys
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 5:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I meant "delicious" in the same sense that newborn babies are "delicious!" Not that I would like to eat her. I gave her lots of squeezes and kisses though. She was utterly irresistable!

Her name is Miriam, and she and her brother Moses, were rejected by their mama, so they are being hand raised--which translates to bottles every three or four hours, just like human babies. When she fell asleep in my arms, she made the cutest little baby goat noises, just like newborn human babies make newborn human baby noises. She also likes to nibble on clothing. And her little tiny hooves went tap, tap, tap.

Yes, I know, I'm a little freaky about animals.

Here's another little one who was living on the same farm, but not rejected by it's mama:

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MeAndTheBoys
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 5:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This picture clearly portrays the "goat-atude" these guys have. Also very cute.
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red
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 6:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

me--no worries, I knew what you meant, once I re-read it they are adorable!
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MeAndTheBoys
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 6:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I knew you knew!

Do people really eat goat?
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red
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 6:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, when I was in Jamaica they served goat to us for dinner. It tastes just like lamb.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 7:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

meandtheboys, I love goats too. I used to walk past a petting zoo on my way to work when I lived in Canada (my route took me through a big public park). I always stopped to pet my favorite little pygmy goat - she was adorable! and no bigger than my neighbor's medium-sized dog.

But - she smelled baa-aa-ad, and my gloves smelled like goat for years after I left Canada (finally got a new pair, or I bet they'd still smell). Goats really are rank.

I'd love to have some kind of goat that makes hair that could be spun into yarn. Alas, I'm pretty sure that I'd need a yard at least 3 times the size of what mine is in order to support even one goat.
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 7:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does that Turtleback Zoo place have farm animals? When our kid was little, and we were nearish Lancaster PA, we used to go to some Amish working farm places to check out the animals. The Central Park Zoo, children's part, has some goats and similar -- if you're needing a fix.

Maybe they could get goats to live in Memorial Park and keep the grass down....nice addition to the ducks.
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MeAndTheBoys
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They have pygmy goats?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh oh.

Cyn, that's exactly where we were. Lancaster County at a B&B that's a "working" farm.

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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 9:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found a bunch of links about pygmy goats - they actually sound like pretty good pets. They're described as animated, affectionate, and gregarious. 16 - 23" high at the withers, 40 - 70 lbs. So really, the size of a medium to large dog. They breed like crazy - you have to keep the baby girls away from the baby boys or they can get preggers by the time they're 2 mos. old. (!!!!) They also produce a lot of milk for their size. That is, if you feel like breeding them, and then milking them. Apparently they're a favorite with 4H kids.

http://www.npga-pygmy.com/resources/husbandry/about_thePygmy.asp

But they need other goats around them to be really happy. And, as I said before, they really stink. And I just wonder what the people at Levine's office would think if you brought them a goat on a leash for a check-up.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 9:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, I guess finding a vet might be a little tricky and probably pretty expensive!
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 9:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I regularly brought Baa-baa Black to Grove Park in the early 80s*. It was an ewe my BIL rescued from Central Park and held temporarily at their house on Raymond Avenue until he could get it up to his Dad's farm.

Someone played the audio tape that we made of B.B. Black in the park at a friend's funeral a few years ago:

Us stupid teenagers: lame "Baaaaah".

Actual Sheep: BaaAAAHHhhhheeehhHHHhhnnnhHHHnnHHH!


The cops hassled us once and I asked to see the ordinance that prohibited sheep specifically, and it didn't exist. So Baa-baa got to hang in Grove Park for the few weeks she spent in South Orange and we got to tape herself and ourselves. And all of us had a lot of fun.

I don't think it would be humane to keep a farm animal in a Maplewood backyard. I could be wrong. Frequently I am.

What a cutie though, Wendy. I want one too!


(Edited to fix the deplorable syntax.)

* Regularly during her stay in South Orange.
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a friend who has a giant farm in PA. They keep sheep and shear them for the wool. Well, one was born a runt and had to be bottle fed. They named it "Sweet Pea."

Whenever anyone walked into the area where the sheep were all of the sheep acted, well, sheepish and ran away. Except Sweet Pea. She ran TOWARDS us.

Isn't that cute?

J.B.
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las
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For the second day in a row I saw a duck on Lenox Street in front of Morrow Church.

Quack.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

las - was it dancing?
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No, Lil. Unlike the dancing chicken of yesterday's fame the duck was just pondering. At least he looked like he was pondering. I mean really, who's to say?

Yet, just as the dancing chicken made me smile, the pondering duck did, too.

I guess fowl makes me smile.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I walk by Memorial park in the morning on the way to the train station and often see a duck "couple" wandering around the police station. They look like they're hemming and hawing about whether to "turn themselves in" at the station. It's kind of cute.
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First thing I would do is to check with the town ordinances regarding "farm" animals. Back in middle school I knew a girl who had a duck and a chicken, but she kept them in the basement, so I don't know if the town ever knew about them.

Goats do smell, but males smell worse than females, kinda like people. Just kidding, don't lynch me yet. But seriously, you might have to bathe her regularly to keep the smell down. I had ferrets and with twice-weekly baths they didn't smell too bad. This would probably work for a goat too.

As far as a veterinarian, I don't think Dr. Levine could care for a goat. Most companion animal veterinarians see cats and dogs. Exotic animal vets see birds, ferrets, rats, reptiles, etc. What you would need is a farm vet. I wouldn't worry about the expense, just the drive out to farmland country for her checkups. Warren or Sussex County should have plenty of farm vets to choose from, but in case of an emergency that would be a long trip.
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Las, no duck or chicken today. Is Morrow Church the one with the front door entrance is by the 456 subway near the Chase bank? Either way, I didn't see any fowl. But I was looking for the Rotisserie Chicken to ask him to dance for me.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do people really eat goats? Absolutely, and there is nothing better than a curry goat roti:
http://www.caribbeancuisine.net/so_menu.php

I'm getting hungry just thinking about it...
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Me: I'll bet if you drop the goat off at Mem's, he can cuddle up in the pile of canines and no one would notice (see pic on other thread). Or, put him in a duck suit.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About year ago, around the same time I noticed a few wild green parrots in Maplewood, I passed a Rhode Island Red chicken pecking in the gravel in front of a commercial looking building on the corner of Cypress and Millburn Ave near Manny's Auto Repair.

I know this sounds nutty, but every word of the prior sentence is true.

Besides, what makes a small farm animal farmy? A chicken, duck, Wilbur, or lawn goat, could be a pet. I guess the question is whether you are farming the animal itself.
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Alley, we've got to get you better I-see-farm-animal's-in-the-morning karma. The duck is in M'wood, on Lenox Street near Ridgewood - by Morrow Church (Morrow, as in Morrow Turnover Sale). No dancing chicken today. But did you smell that bbq??
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No I didn't smell any bbq. Darn I miss all the good poultry.
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I love goats! They have RECTANGULAR pupils!!! Why??? Do they see differently? I don't think they need much room. They just need to eat a lot.
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You know, loan goats do exist (if this comment isn't too late in the thread).

UNIFEM sponsors goat banks in several developing countries, to build local economies. A woman seeking to establish a small business in a teeny village may apply to borrow a goat for a year. She is sent a pregnant goat. She must maintain the goat's good health, can keep the kid for a year, use the milk (or sell the milk), use any hair for weaving. I think at the end of her year, she must return the kid and can keep the goat - either that, or the other way around (keep kid, return goat).

Thank you all for the delightful laughs this thread has so far provided. Am having a difficult day at the end of a difficult week and you really brightened my mood!
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Me & Boys - I'm right there with you - would seriuosly LOVE to keep a mini sheep as a pet..keep us informed
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Similar to what Joanne mentioned, a favorite charity that Pippi and I have donated to is Heifer International -- www.Heifer.org -- and what they do is use donations to provide livestock and training to people, on the condition that they breed the animals and give some of the offspring to others in need. It's a pretty amazing organization, and it could partially alleviate the desire some of you apparently have to buy a goat or lamb!

But, of course, you wouldn't personally get to play with the babies. I'm kinda fascinated by alpacas. There are quite a few breeds and color/coat types and they are VERY cute. My plan is to rebuild our house with a turf roof and have a small alpaca herd on the roof of our house. (Yes, I'm kidding, but it's too fun an idea to let go of.)

I mean, look at this... is this girl too cute for words, or what?


alpaca
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alpacas cost about $25,000 apiece - just happened to pick this up from a knitting web page recently. A little out of reach for me!!

We also support Heifer - actually I found out about this group from Pippi, so you guys can congratulate yourself for this. I think they are a wonderful organization.
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

snowmom--it's really just a pipe dream of mine. Don't think I'll actually do the goat thing. With three kids, a dog, a cat and a husband, I think I've got enough on my hands right now!

Maybe when I retire I'll find me a little piece of land someplace where I can live out my "gentlewoman farmer" fantasy!
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Bumper the goat I killed.

When you want to take a foal from a mare, she tends to go into a little depression. Horses, not being the smartest in the animal kingdom, can’t tell the difference between a foal and a goat. So you take the foal, replace with goat, and the mother is none the wiser. The goat, wondering what the heck this mother horse is doing, starts to get a little pissed and butts the mother a bunch. Finally the mother wants nothing to do with her “Baby” and you remove the goat.

Well Bumper was our stand in baby and did a great job. BUT after years of fighting off mares he decided that he would take his aggression out on me. I couldn’t go anyplace on the farm without Bumper spotting me and trying to sink his horns into my bottom. I hated Bumper and always ended up on my face after a sneak attack.

Well one day Bumper was in a bad mood, saw me and the chase was on. Round the barn we went and passed the apple trees. Then back into the barn, and Bumper was closing in. The stack of hay was my last chance. I scrambled up to the top and about half way up kicked one of the bales back toward Bumper.

Well Bumper had his last Bump, the bale was too heavy and his neck was getting weak with age. I had killed my childhood nemesis. RIP Bumper.

Bumper was buried on the farm and to this day every time I get a random pain, I think he may be the cause.

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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Really, Brett? Amazing story?
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Yep Tom if you’re ever in Cream Ridge NJ, stop by my parents farm and take a walk around. Bumper is buried at the bottom of the hill, third apple tree from the left.
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Many farmers around here keep alpcacas and llamas to help fight off wild dogs (yes, domesticated dogs gone wild - a serious problem around here and a great threat to livestock farming) and also foxes. The alpacas and llamas are apparently great to keep, have beautiful natures and can be useful for dives\rsification (tourists, hair products etc) but will stomp to death any stray animal that means harm to a sheep, goat, deer or cattle herd. The things you learn, living in rural Australia!

Our township is less and less relaint on traditional farmers yet we still have an active Stock Route for drovers taking stock to saleyards the oldfashioned 'walk them through town' way (modern alternative: truck them), and we also have a Town Common by the river that is exclusively for people wanting to leave their horses or cattle there while they stay in town for a couple of nights. This is not the same as our public Square (which is anything but square!) in the middle of town, for fairs, gatherings, memorials like ANZAC Day etc.
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las
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Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 1:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are an alpaca and goat I saw on Lenox Street near Ridgewood Thursday morning.

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