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TomD
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Username: Tomd
Post Number: 411
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 7:52 pm: | 
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So this past weekend I made a trip to Wegman's in Woodbridge (they carried a particular brand of hotdog that I wanted and...never mind, there's really no sane justification for it) and oh my god! This was, hands down, the nicest supermarket I've ever been in. It's huge, but it isn't the size that got me. They have great everything. Great deli, great produce, great meats, great gourmet stuff, great organics and other "whole foods-type" stuff, great fish, fantastic prepared foods and foods ready to pop in the oven or microwave. It was a Saturday afternoon and it took me less than 5 minutes of waiting on line to get to the register. I even had lunch there with my two year old. I wanted to move this to this place.
So what have we done wrong? How have we offended the supermarket gods? What's wrong with this area? Maplewood, SO, Millburn, Short Hills, West Orange? Don't we deserve a Woodbridge Wegmans?
What do we have? A&P only useful for having booze. Pathmark? Talk about unimpressive. The closest thing to a decent supermarket around here is the Shoprite in West Orange and it pales in comparison to the glorious Woodbridge Wegmans! |
Dogbert
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Username: Dogbert
Post Number: 86
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:01 pm: |
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Wegmans needs a gigantic piece of land and good highway access. There was a plan for one in East Hanover a couple years ago but it got shot down out of concern for traffic. There's nowhere in Maplewood or South Orange that could support one, but perhaps West Orange or Union could. |
MeAndTheBoys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3573
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:02 pm: |
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When you're right, you're right.
I remember when we moved here from Jersey City almost 8 years ago now, having some subconscious belief that there'd be lots of nice grocery stores out here in the burbs. Imagine my shock when I first went to Pathmark. And Whole Foods is nice, but I almost passed out when I first saw the prices.
The new Pathmark that I had been shopping at in Jersey City was nicer than anything I find out here.
It's kind of pathetic really. |
Jgberkeley
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Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 4548
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:19 pm: |
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Have you used the Shoprite in Livingston?
or the Super Kings in Springfield-Short Hills? |
red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5413
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:27 pm: |
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I don't get it. What a great opportunity it would be for someone.... |
Bill232
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Username: Bill232
Post Number: 164
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:31 pm: |
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Unfortunately the area has become so densely populated its unbearable to shop or get anywhere. The people that work at these stores don't seem to care about what the place looks like. A&P is so drty I'm frightenend to purchase produce or meats when I have gone in there when I'm in the area. I grew up in this area and remember the traffic flow being a fraction of what it is now. The store clerks were much nicer and actually had some sense or knowledge where to find something if you had a question. I now live in West New Jersey and it seems like a different world compared to the stores in this area . Walmart actually has isles you can walk down without having merchandise blocking your way. McDonalds have nice young kids greeting you with a smile like a commercial on TV and the supermarkets are bountiful with fresh produce, meats and clean stores. I'm sorry, my heart grew up in this area but it just could not stay. I also agree with you Tom. |
Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 3825
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 9:37 pm: |
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TomD: I'm rather surprised that you're surprised that Wegman's is so much nicer than our local places. People have been (justifiably) ranting about Wonderful Wegman's for at least three years here on MOL, and the reasons why there's none here are always the same: space and access.
Bill232: Since you've decided (for, one must assume, other excellent reasons than the squeaky cleanliness, easy-on-easy-off access, and well-scrubbed helpful cheeriness of your local Walmart and Mickey-D's) to remove yourself to the characterless tracts of Western N.J.'s boonies, I can only say (speaking only for myself, I'm sure):
A) You're outta here, guy... old news... please open a virtual community where you live so you may gripe there about how fabulously boring and vanilla life is wherever the hell you are now, and leave us all alone with our own (more interesting) problems.
and 2) You won't be lonely out there for long. Very soon, TomD will undoubtedly be packing up his SUV or pickup or RV or whatever else he drives, and beating an Oakie-like path directly to your neighborhood. Then you can both hit Walmart and McDonald's every day! Heaven!
Please excuse me now... gotta get back to the BOT on Channel 19.
-s. |
CLK
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Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 2212
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 9:07 am: |
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A&P should just close down the grocery business, and turn itself into a beer & wine store, with maybe a few convenience-store items - that's how the customers use the store, from what I can see. I've never understand how two supermarkets can share the same parking lot, and I am guessing A&P survives based on its alcohol sales and a few sundries (even the latter is probably going down since Pathmark put in the self-serve express checkout). So they should just stick with what they can do, and forget the grocery-store concept altogether. (I once saw brown broccoli and brown celery for sale in there - shudder.)
I am resigned to never having a decent grocery store in town, but refuse to drive all the way to Livingston or West Orange for regular grocery shopping. I shop at Whole Foods - one big shopping a month, use Purple Dragon for my fruits & veg, and get milk delivery (which rocks). Pathmark for a few odd things that WF doesn't sell (like Progresso soup, adored by my husband and child and preferred over my home-made  ).We eat very well but spend too much. Oh well. |
Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11309
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 9:14 am: |
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IMHO Wegman's operates more like an amusement attraction or a destination store (think COSTCO, LL Bean, etc.) than a regular supermarket. Going there is an experience, but the point of a supermarket is to provide convenience and decent prices to its customers. Driving 40 minutes or so to a supermarket is not convenient for most of us.
With that said the Staten Island contingent of my wife's family go to Woodbridge regularly, especially if they are having a party for the prepared platters, etc., which I assure you are delicious. Belch! Pardon me. |
papayagirl
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Username: Papayagirl
Post Number: 535
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 9:41 am: |
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From my house in maplewood, it's an 18 minute drive to the Shoprite in WO, and a 19 minute drive to the Wegman's in Woodbridge. Even if you live on the other side of town, it's hardly a 40 minute drive.
The difference between the two for me is that i spend an hour just going up and down the first two aisles of Wegman's over and over again because i can never decide what not to buy. True, the prices might be slightly higher across the board (although i know people who've comparison shopped and they've said it comes out about the same), but all of the prepared meals and ready-to-cook items that Wegman's offers makes the life of a mom like me *much* more convenient! |
MeAndTheBoys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3576
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 10:02 am: |
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Peapod Rocks!
'Nuff said. |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 2992
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 10:43 am: |
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Peapod would rock if they carried even 50% of the food items that I buy.
I shop mainly at the SH Kings, but am getting frustrated that I can't leave without spending well over $100. Every time I have been to the Livingston Shoprite it is so crowded as to be basically unshoppable. Unfortunately I have to shop on weekends, so King's isn't much better. I once went to the Kings in Berkeley Heights (I was in the area) and it was EMPTY on a Sunday. Very nice.
I can't understand why they would even consider turning the Vauxhall driving range into a Target instead of a nice supermarket. And I am still waiting for something to happen with the Saks in SH! |
Dogbert
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Username: Dogbert
Post Number: 87
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 10:55 am: |
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19 minutes to Woodbridge? You need no traffic, speed like crazy and hit every light to do that. |
papayagirl
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Username: Papayagirl
Post Number: 536
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 11:10 am: |
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Not really. I did it last month on a late sunday afternoon, which is when i timed it. Took the parkway straight down, and it's right off of exit 130. Even from other parts of Maplewood that are further from the 78/GSP onramp and throwing in a couple more lights that perhaps i didn't get, i can't imagine it would be more than 25 minutes.
And convenience-wise, the fact that it's located in the same parking lot as a Lowes, a HomeGoods, and a Destination Baby and avfun $5 and under kids store that must've opened fairly recently, makes it a pretty worthwhile drive for me. |
BGS
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Username: Bgs
Post Number: 956
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |
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I want to remind everyone that the Shop Rite in Springfield across from the big King's has been totally renovated and it is lovely. Great huge produce, deli and now bakery departments. Sure I would love a Wegman;s but this is the hand that the grocery store idols dealt us so I trek off to the Shop Rite and use the A & P for milk or bread etc...While they do not have the turnover in product at the A & P that other area stores have, I can honestly say that I have never seen the store dirty. It is a small store that has been beaten down by Pathmark which is too bad...the A & P has been in that location for over 35 years. |
ess
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Username: Ess
Post Number: 1816
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 12:42 pm: |
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Having gone to school in Rochester, NY, I have come to love, absolutely love, Wegman's. Before the one in Woodbridge opened, I would occasionally make the 25 mile drive to the one in Bridgewater. It is worth it for the roast beef and coffee alone, but there are many, many other items that are totally outstanding.
Wegman's store brand is also a high quality brand. They also offer some amenities that other stores do not (e.g., they will take your groceries to your car, there is child care, there is a cafe).
It's too bad we don't have an "outstanding" supermarket nearby. I agree that the Shop Rite in West Orange is very nice, but getting there is a slight (only slight) pain. Shop Rite in Springfield, as BGS has noted, has been renovated and it is much, much more pleasant now. I much prefer it (or Kings) to either Pathmark or A&P.
Whole Foods is wonderful, if you can overlook the prices. |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 3001
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |
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BGS, I took your advice and ShopRite in Springfield was much nicer than the one in Millburn (I hadn't been in before the reno).
Unfortunately they also don't stock a lot of the items I need every week. Arg! |
Scully
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Username: Scully
Post Number: 355
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 1:31 pm: |
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Bob K:
'Driving 40 minutes or so to a supermarket is not convenient for most of us. '
From Essex Avenue in Maplewood Wegman's is 25 minutes tops. You might
be thinking of the Bridgewater one, that's about 40 minutes. |
TomD
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Username: Tomd
Post Number: 412
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 1:39 pm: |
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That's right, I forgot (because I didn't use it) the Wegman's in Woodbridge also has a childcare/playroom area.
And they had the hotdogs I wanted!
Before this I knew the supermarkets around here weren't very good, but until I went to this Wegmans (and I hadn't been in a Wegmans since I was in college) I had no idea how much better things could be.
When we lived in Hoboken, we used to drive over to the Pathmark in Edgewater, which was new and very nice and right next to a Target and very close to a big Whole Foods (again, much nicer than the Millburn one), but it wasn't even close to the Woodbridge Wegmans.
Yes, there's a certain amount of "recreational shopping" that'll go on at a store like this (gee, I could use a new bamboo cutting board...Oooh! Is that a bison steak?), but what's more frustrating than spending a half an hour on line at Pathmark? Or making your way through the narrow aisles in Kings or Whole Foods (not to mention the prices)?
I found the Wegman's prices very normal...check out their flyer.
According to Google Maps:
Start address: NJ 07040
End address: 15 Woodbridge Ctr Dr, Woodbridge, NJ 07095
Distance: 15.7 mi (about 26 mins)
Of course, as any Jersey boy knows, the traffic is the wildcard there.
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Lizziecat
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Username: Lizziecat
Post Number: 1176
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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There's a big, beautiful Pathmark at the Livingston Circle. There's a nice Kings in Livingston, about a mile down the road from the Livingston Shoprite.
There are other Kings in Florham Park, Chatham and Verona. There's Trader Joes in Florham Park. There's whole Foods in Millburn, and another coming in West Orange. The only town without a decent Supermarket is S. Orange, where it's coming soon, if you can believe our BOT.
Unless you can't drive or don't own a car, it takes only a few minutes to get to all of these other places. Frankly, when I moved here from Brooklyn, I was delighted with all my choices. Still am. And the South Orange gourmet supermarket is coming soon. Oh, yes, really it is. |
Dogbert
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Username: Dogbert
Post Number: 88
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 3:36 pm: |
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Speaking of Wegmans, it appears that Mr. Wegman himself has passed on.
Rochester, NY - With great sadness, we announce the passing of Robert B. Wegman, chairman of Wegmans Food Markets, Inc., who died this afternoon. Until recently, Mr. Wegman kept a full schedule working in the office and enjoying his favorite pastime of visiting Wegmans stores. His health had deteriorated in recent days, and he was admitted to Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester where he died peacefully. |
papayagirl
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Username: Papayagirl
Post Number: 537
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 4:02 pm: |
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From my house in Maplewood, according to Mapquest...
Kings in Livingston (255 South Livingston Ave): 18 minutes
Kings in Florham Park (184 Columbia Tpke): 18 minutes
Kings in Chatham (393 Main St): 14 minutes
Kings in Verona (265 Pompton Ave): 21 minutes
Pathmark in Livingston (277 Eisenhower Pkwy): 21 minutes
Pathmark in Edison (1665 Oak Tree Rd, formerly a Shoprite): 21 minutes
Shoprite in Livingston (483 S. Livingston Avenue): 16 minutes
Shoprite in West Orange (Essex Green, 1 Rooney Circle): 15 minutes
Trader Joes in Westfield (155 Elm Street): 18 minutes
Trader Joes in Florham Park (186 Columbia Turnpike): 18 minutes
Sorry Lizziecat, but i hardly qualify a 15-20 minute drive on the GSP as a few minutes away. It doesn't mean that i don't do it for a great grocery-shopping experience. But it also doesn't mean i'm not qualified to complain about it. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9285
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 4:30 pm: |
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Wegman went to the big checkout counter, eh? |
MeAndTheBoys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3581
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 4:38 pm: |
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All of the times Papayagirl posted sound wonderful in theory, but in reality, I doubt you'd make that time unless it was an off day at an off hour.
The Shoprite in Springfield may have been renovated, but it wasn't expanded, which means it is still too small to handle a large crowd, or stock the kind of selection I like to see. The Shoprite in Livingston is one of my favorites around here because it is huge and has nice wide aisles that can accomodate the amount of people that use the store, and can stock a wider variety of items I'm looking for. However, I hardly think the drive from my house on the southeast corner of Maplewood to Livingston is what I would call convenient! Convenient is the Pathmark in S.O., but the store itself isn't my favorite.
As long as we're traveling to all corners for great supermarkets, there's a beautiful Stop & Shop out west on 22 in Watchung (which, I believe, is where my Peapod order originates from). If you take 78 to exit 43, then hop over to 22 on Bonnie Burn Road (?), it's a fairly bearable trip. And if other great stores being in the same shopping center are a draw, this one has T.J. Maxx, Old Navy, Carter's, Bed, Bath & Beyond, Barnes & Noble, Home Depot, A.C. Moore, DSW, Pier One, and a whole host of others I can't recall at the moment. Problem is, I rarely have the time or the desire to drive that far (20-25 minutes) for a decent shopping experience. |
papayagirl
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Username: Papayagirl
Post Number: 538
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 4:52 pm: |
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Wegman went to the big checkout counter, eh?
I don't know what that means. =-(
And MeAndTheBoys - the times for the two Trader Joes are dead-on, at least for me. The time i pulled up for Wegmans (24 mins) is longer than i find it usually takes. But it usually takes me longer than mapquest says to get to the WO Shoprite.
I like that Stop & Shop in Watchung too, but it's an even longer drive. I'm holding out hope that the rumored new Stop & Shop on Stuyvesant and Vauxhall in Union will have some promise... |
Lizziecat
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Username: Lizziecat
Post Number: 1178
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 5:41 pm: |
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Papayagirl:
Why would you have to take the GSP to any of those places? OK maybe Edison and Westfield, but none of the others--they can all be accessed by local streets. Forget Mapquest, just look at a local Hammond road atlas. I realize that this isn't New York, where you could walk to a grocery store around the corner, or, in my daughter-in-law's case, in the same building, but if people wanted that they should have stayed in the city. This is the suburbs, people, where you have to actually get in your car and drive to the things you want. That is, you have to drive unless you live around the corner from Kings in Maplewood, or from the gourmet supermarket which is coming soon in South Orange--that's a promise, folks.
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ess
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Username: Ess
Post Number: 1821
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 6:20 pm: |
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Just to throw in my two cents regarding driving -- you do not need to take the Parkway to get to Westfield, either.
In my opinion, if you are really happy with a supermarket and think it is worth the trip, then the drive is not such a big deal. |
les
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Username: Les
Post Number: 116
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 8:38 pm: |
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There is a very nice, big, clean A&P in Kenilworth, just off the Garden State Parkway that is worth mentioning. It's about a 15 minute drive from Maplewood, right by that hotel that has that huge neon sign. I must say, I've been pleasantly surprised by this store. |
Scully
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Username: Scully
Post Number: 361
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 8:50 pm: |
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Yes! And that A&P in Kenilworth is open 24/7.
VERY convienient for the hours I keep. |
sac
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Username: Sac
Post Number: 3394
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 9:25 pm: |
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MapQuest tries to take you on the major roads (parkway, 280, 78, etc.) for almost any trip. It can be very interesting to see what comes up when you put origin and destination for not-to-distant trips that clearly should be made via local roads. (Say from Maplewood to Caldwell, for example.) |
CLK
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Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 2225
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 9:37 pm: |
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Travelling 20 minutes to the grocery store means 40 minutes round trip. If the entire trip (including the actual shopping) takes more than an hour out of my life, it's too long. Life is way, way too short to spend it driving all over creation in the car to run errands.
This is why I stopped shopping at Pathmark for my main groceries - the service was so bad, I could guarantee that a trip to the grocery store would take at least 90 minutes (and they are so close that I could walk there to pick up a few things if I were so inclined).
With the cost of gas going up & up, I'm guessing that fewer & fewer people will be willing to drive those distances for their groceries.
(I've never lived in NYC, fwiw - did a stint in Maryland, another in Canada, and another in the Midwest and never drove more than 5 minutes to a grocery store - and there were fab grocery stores in all of those places) |
papayagirl
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Username: Papayagirl
Post Number: 539
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 10:29 pm: |
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I don't take the parkway to get to most of those places. As sac said, the default mapquest route is via the parkway for a lot of the stores i listed, and in order to compare apples to apples, those are the times i posted. But even though i often take backroads, it hardly shaves an 18 minute trip onto the parkway down to 5-10 minutes. It usually just makes the trip a bit more scenic and saves me 70 cents.
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kevin
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Username: Kevin
Post Number: 690
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 10:47 am: |
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Which store carries the best produce?
For a change, I would love to see a Stew Leonard's around here, but they would probably require a large tract like Wegmans:
http://www.stewleonards.com/html/about.cfm
It's like a huge farmers market. There are currently 3 locations (2 in CT and one in Yonkers). It looks like they are starting to branch out. They are building two more in CT and one on Long Island, but have run into some delays with that property due to issues about ownership of the land.
From the Wiki:
The New York Times called Stew Leonard's the "Disneyland of Dairy Stores." As customers walk through a path of aisles (it is not set up like traditional grocery stores; one must walk through the entire store (though there are short cuts), even to get a carton of milk), they are greeted by different farm animals (employees dressed up in costumes), and anamatronic favorites such as Twinkie the Kid, the Chiquita banana, and a cow's head that moos when one pulls its rope. The stores also feature petting zoos and outdoor cafes in the warmer months and sell a variety of prepared meals year round.
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kevin
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Username: Kevin
Post Number: 691
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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Corrado's should think about branching out as well...Their place is always packed.
http://www.corradosmarket.com/about.html
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LilLB
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Username: Lillb
Post Number: 1607
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 10:52 am: |
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I used to live in Connecticut and LOVED Stew Leonards. They have the greatest stuff and it's fun to go there. |
Lou
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Username: Flf
Post Number: 134
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
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so among all the supermarkets you know, which one sells the freshest meat?
I'm so sick of buying meat in supermarkets around this area that looks great in the package and as soon as i get home and open it, the meat underneath is dark, old, and disgusting, forcing me to cut most of it and throw it out. (And this includes Kings, Shoprite, AP... not even mentioning Pathmark...)
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snowmom
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Username: Snowmom
Post Number: 367
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 11:03 am: |
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On two seperate occasions I came home with worms in the peppers from Shoprite on Springfield ave; I avoid that place despite the renovation |
BGS
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Username: Bgs
Post Number: 964
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 11:42 am: |
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I have never had a problem with anything that I have purchased at the Shop Rite in Springfield. I have been a patron there for 11 years.
I have found worms in peppers that I have grown in my backyard and there is no way to know if the worms are in the peppers when you pick them or buy them. That does not mean that the store is a bad place.
Meand---FYI- This Shop Rite did expand the store and re-did the parking situation. It is much easier to get around the store now and the veggie, deli and seafood department and the butcher/meat department is greatly expanded.
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dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1691
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
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On a side note, last week's New Yorker had a great article about how Mapquest determines its directions.
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060424fa_fact |
kevin
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Username: Kevin
Post Number: 692
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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Lou - when you purchase meat, especially ground meat, the red meat that you see on top is the part that is exposed to oxygen. Oxygen causes the meat to "bloom". If you dig off the top layer to expose the brown and let it sit out on the counter for 30 minutes, it should bloom and turn red as well.
There are a number of tricks that stores use to make meat appear fresh.
Whole Foods in Chatham has a nice meat department. They even have a case with dry aged beef.
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Maplewoody
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Username: Maplewoody
Post Number: 1168
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 12:36 am: |
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Perfect spot is the HUGE empty HOME EXPO space . . .
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papayagirl
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Username: Papayagirl
Post Number: 540
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 10:21 am: |
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Are they still saying the empty Expo space is going to become an expansion of Home Depot? Or was that (hopefully) just a rumor? |
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