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sbenois
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Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15142
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 9:26 pm: | 
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I've gotta figure that Chief Jay Strongbow was better. Once he got the old legs cookin and he started revving up, there was no stopping him. Mil Mascaras was very good but he wasn't able to shift the momentum the way that Jay did. And you could never really be sure it was Mil. There might have been 10 Mils all wrestling the same night.
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Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5701
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 10:15 pm: |
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I personally liked Mil Mascaras better but one cant overlook Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka in this conversation either. Chief Jay did benefit from his tag team partnership with Billy White Wolf too. |
The Soullful Mr T
Citizen
Username: Howardt
Post Number: 2064
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 10:34 pm: |
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Bruno Sanmartino |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5702
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 11:16 pm: |
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S-
in 2003, Pro Wrestling Illustrated did a Top 500 singles wrestlers of all time..
Chief Jay Strongbow...214
Bruno Sammartino...200
Mil Mascaras...94
Jimmy Snuka...29
We need parkbench in on this..he went to Wrestlemania III or IV.
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Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4355
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 11:56 pm: |
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I loved the Chief, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarpa) once he went into that stereotypical War Dance there was no stopping him. He was definitely better than Mil. I never went to Wrestlemania but I did attend a few of the monthly cards at the Garden in the 70's. However how can we forget the big boys debate? Is it Gorilla Monsoon or the big Haystacker (Haystacks Calhoun) weighing in at 601 pounds from Stone Mountain Georgia. Anyway I will leave it up to you two Pencil Neck Geeks to debate my final question, "Who was the better Wrestling manager, The Grand Wizard, Captain Lou Albano or Classy Freddy Blassie
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thegoodsgt
Citizen
Username: Thegoodsgt
Post Number: 995
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 7:45 am: |
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Mil Mascaras never attained the championship status of Sammartino, although neither did Strongbow. Mascaras had much more athleticism...hell, he could fly! And those masks and outfits were awesome!
As for the managers, Albano was much more entertaining than anyone else. |
bklyntonj
Citizen
Username: Bklyntonj
Post Number: 727
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 8:40 am: |
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Mil Mascaras! I still remember him flying through the air and avoiding Ernie Ladd's thumb. |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 481
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:15 am: |
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The Poet Laureate - no one better in wrestling history ...
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Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4356
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:22 am: |
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The "Big Cat" Ernie Ladd
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sportsnut
Citizen
Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 2458
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:40 am: |
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Ravishing Ronald
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Brett Weir
Citizen
Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 1636
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:41 am: |
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Andre the Giant, Bulldog Brower, KoKo Beware, Ivan Putsky and the Iron Sheik...
"Tell me something, Gene- what the Hell's the difference between a thumb in the eye and a BLATANT thumb in the eye?" |
Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4357
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:47 am: |
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My man "George The Animal Steele"
Didn't he once run for Township Committee? |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5703
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:58 am: |
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George was actually a high school teacher with a Masters degree.
Iron Sheik was voted Most Underrated Wrestler of all-time in the 1980s. The Camel Clutch was his big move but who had the great Sleeper Hold (where they'd play lullabye music over the PA)...was that Rowdy Roddy Piper or Tito Santana?
Bob Backlund though..he was a classic. So good he didnt need a gimmick.
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Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4358
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:05 am: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_holds
Hank, actually I prefer the Claw or the Heart Punch. The Sleeper Hold is for Pencil Neck Geeks.
Speaking of the Camel Clutch
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kevin
Supporter
Username: Kevin
Post Number: 723
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
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Tito Santana is a Spanish teacher in NJ.
and owns Santana's Hair Salon in Succasunna.
How about: The Wild Samoans, Bruno Sammartino, The Junkyard Dog, Big John Studd, The Missing Link, along with the others mentioned above....the 80s was a great time in the WWF.
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Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5704
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 11:48 am: |
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the 80s was the heyday...it was still cartoonish before it got too over the top. |
blackcat
Citizen
Username: Blackcat
Post Number: 624
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 1:23 pm: |
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Who were the guys that were hillbilly-like and wore overalls? Was it the Bushwackers? |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 482
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 2:19 pm: |
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Actually the Hillbilly-like guys were the Hillbillies - Hillbilly Jim, Uncle Elmer, Cousin Junior and Cousin Luke. |
Arnomation
Citizen
Username: Arnomation
Post Number: 570
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 2:46 pm: |
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blackcat
Citizen
Username: Blackcat
Post Number: 625
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 4:02 pm: |
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No, it was just the 2 of them..I'm pretty sure I was thinking Bushwackers. I think they were from Australia or something. The sad part is that my brain has retained some of this information... |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5705
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 4:12 pm: |
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let's not forget the Little Atlas of the Wrestling World...
Sky Low Low
(picture is almost actual size) |
thegoodsgt
Citizen
Username: Thegoodsgt
Post Number: 996
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 7:55 am: |
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Or the ladies of professional wrestling...before they became the punchline to a series of lame bits.
The Fabulous Moolah |
Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4365
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 8:44 am: |
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Hank,
I spit on Sky Low Low. My man the Haiti Kid (with his classic wrestling move the "Keister Butt") could whip him every day of the week and twice on Sunday's.
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Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5706
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 9:00 am: |
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pb,
the little dude in the Bacardi and Coke commercials could whoop the Haiti Kid...everyone knows Sky Low Low was the first midget wrestler inducted into the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame. |
Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4366
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 9:06 am: |
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Hank,
Sky Low Low was on Steroids, including HGH, the Clear and the Cream. Wait till the truth comes out. He also kissed up to the reporters. THe Haiti Kid kept it real and told it like it was. I think the wrestling writers hold that against him to this very day. |
shaun
Citizen
Username: Shaun
Post Number: 57
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 11:21 am: |
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my favorite - jake "the snake" roberts
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Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5708
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 11:27 am: |
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pb,
heres the dude...even he can crush Haiti Kid...
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Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4370
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 11:39 am: |
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Hank,
I think that dude is Johnny Rodz's illegitimate son with The Fabulous Moolah. Whaddya think?
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kmk
Supporter
Username: Kmk
Post Number: 1282
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 2:30 pm: |
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I grew up watching Fritz Von Eric. He went on to have some wrestling sons like Eric Von Eric, etc.
The hoot was that my father - a PHD in engineering - LOVED this stuff!
I watched it every week on B&W TV in the Big D. |
Josh Holtz
Citizen
Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 487
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 2:59 pm: |
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The Von Erichs - very strange and tragic story ...
http://www.wrestlingmuseum.com/pages/bios/halloffame/vonerichbio.html |
Brett Weir
Citizen
Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 1638
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 4:40 pm: |
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We've come a long way since Strangler Lewis and Gorgeous George... |
Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4383
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 5:36 pm: |
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Anybody here see my old friend Lou Thesz? |
Andrew Zorn
Citizen
Username: Andrewzorn
Post Number: 206
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 5:41 pm: |
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Two words.
Verne Gagne
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Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5712
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 5:51 pm: |
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you know...Im wondering, maybe all the political wrangling in town can be settled the old WWF way...DemMania! I wonder what wrestlers our leaders would emulate in either style or costume. Vic and David would definitely be a tag team. Steel cage match in Ricalton Square, anybody?
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Andrew Zorn
Citizen
Username: Andrewzorn
Post Number: 207
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 5:55 pm: |
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Obviously it need to be a 12-person Battle Royale.
Watch our for flying chairs!
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Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4386
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 6:18 pm: |
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How about a Handicap Match? Watch out for the Foreign Objects |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 4011
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 8:36 pm: |
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Ricky Starr, Haystacks Calhoun, Killer Kowalski, Antonino Rocca, Arnold Skolan ("The Golden Boy"), Buddy Rogers, The Swedish Angel, the Masked Marvel, and the little old lady at ringside bashing the bad guy with her umbrella through the ropes: all part of an evening of Professional Wrestling on TV in the late 50's, just as dramatic as roller derby...
-s. |
Brett Weir
Citizen
Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 1641
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 8:52 pm: |
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Steel Cage Death Match- "Taus" vs. "No-Taus". One word: Boolah-Boolah... |
kap
Citizen
Username: Kap
Post Number: 254
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:58 pm: |
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I can't believe noone has mentioned Dick the Bruiser and Crusher
For 10 years, virtually no one pinned the shoulders of The Bruiser and/or The Crusher. Even fewer made it out of the ring without being battered and bloodied by the violent blue-collar heroes. They were unstoppable, and the fans loved their bombastic exploits. Bruiser and Crusher were so dominant during their matches against the competition (The Valiants, The Texas Outlaws/Rhodes and Murdoch, Von Raschke & Ladd, The Blackjacks, etc.) that once their match was over, they would often trade blows with each other, to the thunderous roar and delight of the sold-out crowds.
kap |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5719
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:35 pm: |
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kap,
I didnt mention them because Im not as old as you. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15148
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:40 pm: |
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Is anyone else appalled by the fact that a member of our august TC is a wrestling fan? |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5720
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:43 pm: |
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Kathy is a Fabulous Moolah fan?!?!?
Im more appalled that there are Cubs fans on the TC.
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Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4408
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 8:11 am: |
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Speaking of Cubs and Wrestling, dontcha think that Sammy Sosa would have made an excellent wrestling character? And no doubt that Lee Elia spoke like a Wrestler.
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crabby
Citizen
Username: Crabbyappleton
Post Number: 670
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 8:33 am: |
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2 words...
Nacho Libre
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