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catmanjac
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel Gilbreth, one of the Gilbreth children of Montclair has died. Now only two children (brothers) remain.

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Monster©
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And the family home (estate) was in Short Hills. You didn't know?
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Monster©
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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buzzsaw
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 4:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where in Short Hills?

and I'm thinking that the Steve Martin movie was a remake.......
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ess
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 4:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Steve Martin movie was most definitely a remake. The original starred Myrna Loy and ... I am drawing a blank.

I didn't realize there were so few of the dozen alive. I know that one, a girl, died in childhood. Are there many descendants?

Has anyone read the original book, and/or its sequel, "Belles on Their Toes"? Two of the most enjoyable books of my childhood. Must have read them a dozen times each! I felt as though I knew that family....though as far as I can remember, they did live in Montclair. Didn't know anything about Short Hills.
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catmanjac
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 4:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Monster©
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 4:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Lizziecat
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 5:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought they lived in Montclair.
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 5:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who the H*ll are the Gilbreth's??
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Dave
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 6:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Obviously not famous people
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Monster©
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahahahaha
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kathy
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 6:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They did live in Montclair, on Eagle Rock Way. The house was torn down when they moved out of it. My parents went to Montclair HS with some of the younger Gilbreths (maybe Jane?), although none of them was a senior in my mother's yearbook (Class of '35). The youngest ones have to be close to 90 now.
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bella
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 8:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheaper by the Dozen was one of my favorite books in elementary school. I remember being thrilled to know that they were from Montclair as a child
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bajou;

The Gilbreths were a family of twelve children. The parents--Frank and Lillian Gilbreth--were time and motion study engineers. They raised their children--or tried to, anyway, according to principles of time and motion study. Two of the children--Ernestine, and Frank, Jr.--wrote the story of their family and their parents' unusual child rearing methods. The book was called Cheaper by the dozen. It was made into a move starring Myrna Loy (see Ess' post above) and remade into another starring Steve Martin.

They were an interesting family in that Lillian Gilbreth was an engineer at a time when that wasn't a usual thing for women. Frank Gilbreth was one of the first people to apply scientific methods to the study of time and motion as it applied to efficiency in the workplace.
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bella
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://gilbrethnetwork.tripod.com/dozen.html
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Monster©
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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that's the kind of post I was looking for, good job Lizziecat.
Cheaper By The Dozen has always been a favorite.
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ess
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lizziecat - well said.

It should also be noted that when Frank Gilbreth Sr. died, Lillian took over his work, which was, as Lizziecat observed, quite unusual for a woman of her generation.

I believe Frank and Lillian Gilbreth were involved in the development of what is known as an "efficiency kitchen".

Again, such wonderful books. I, too, was thrilled to learn they were from Montclair.
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Nancy - LibraryLady
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also one of my favorite books as a kid in Queens. Had no idea where Montclair was until I moved to NJ 20 years ago and then it was like...cool. I was so disappointed that the house no longer existed.
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Jersey_Boy
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Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, will the flags in Montclair be at half mast?


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Psychomom
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Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just saw the remake with Steve Martin last night on TV...takes a lot of liberties. Football coach vs Scientist???
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cody
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 7:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I loved "Cheaper by the Dozen" and "Belles on the Toes" when I was a kid. I was an only child, so the idea of a family of 12 kids sounded exciting to me!

Didn't like the first movie all that much, didn't even want to see the second.
But I read those books quite a few times!

I was sorry to read of his passing, but I hadn't realized that any of the children were still living around here.
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SoOrLady
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 9:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I loved both movies - but never read the books. The "remake" only took the title of the movie - nothing resembled the original script.

One other interesting point is that all 12 Gilbreth children obtained college degrees - even the girls - quite unusual for the time.
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combustion
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 3:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I saw the original movie and I liked it. Then I read the book and liked it even better. I haven't seen the Steve Martin movie. From the previews (and SoOrLady's post) I gather it's nothing like the original. I'd probably hate it. They could have (and should have) made their slapstick comedy without pretending it was in any way related to the original. And now there's a sequel? Ugh. This, of course, is just my personal opinion.
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Andrea Weisbard
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 9:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I saw the Original movie and read the books and there is nothing lke the real thing.

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