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     duncanrogers Citizen Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 578 Registered: 12-2001  |
WASHINGTON (July 8) - Amid questions about prewar intelligence, the White House is acknowledging that President Bush was incorrect when he said in his State of the Union address that Iraq recently had sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa. And another DOH} The president's statement in the State of the Union was incorrect because it was based on forged documents from the African nation of Niger, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Monday. ''The president's statement was based on the predicate of the yellow cake'' uranium ''from Niger,'' Fleischer told reporters. ''So given the fact that the report on the yellow cake did not turn out to be accurate, that is reflective of the president's broader statement.'' What?? Is that English??? | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 1558 Registered: 12-2001  |
Bush may have been set up to lie by his handlers, some of whom are undoubtedly smarter than Bush. I don't get the impression that Bush engages in much critical thinking. If his handlers gave him false information, I expect he would run with it without question. I would actually feel more comfortable, in some ways, if I thought he knowingly used wrong information as opposed to not exercising proper management oversight over the Executive Branch. | ||
| Dave Ross Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 4816 Registered: 5-2001  |
Let them eat cake. | ||
| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 1793 Registered: 5-2001  |
"Don't eat the yellow cake." | ||
| Carl Thompson Citizen Username: Topcat Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2003  |
This is what press secretaries do – obfuscate for their bosses. My favorite was from Ron Ziegler, Nixon’s press secretary. When asked about inconsistencies (later found to be lies) in the administration’s previous statements regarding the Watergate break-in, Ziegler told a press conference, “This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative."  | ||
| #9Dream Citizen Username: 9dream Post Number: 452 Registered: 12-2002  |
I don't remember who coined the term "credibility gap" but it's a good 'un. A "credibility gap" is, of course, the gap between what was said and the truth. | ||
| FOUR STAR STRAW Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 897 Registered: 10-2001 |
Not a very popular thread. I notice we have the same list of sore loser liberals once again bashing our very fine Leader. Too bad really. Being part of a misinformed, misdirected minority must hurt. Never mind the fact, most if not all of you commit treason each and everytime you attack the American way. I pity each of you. Your voice is ineffective, your ideals useless and your dreams impossible. Just do yourselves a favor, vote Bush because with or without you, the Republican way of doing business is here to stay. As a matter of fact it never really left. We've had 2 Democratic Presidents since 1969. One was the worst Prez in American history, the other a psycho sexual pervert, with an impeachment to boot. We Americans are done with the left, we're done with the Democrats, we're done with you. Time to jump aboard or lose the race..I'll see you at the finish line.. VOTE BUSH IN 2004. "HE'S THE COMMON SENSE CANDIDATE." Thank You for supporting the Republican party. "We have the money, we have the power, we have the population, and most importantly if we want, we can take you down as well." -Strawberry/ Star Ledger, Sunday June 22, 2003 | ||
| duncanrogers Citizen Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 579 Registered: 12-2001 |
I pity each of you. Your voice is ineffective, your ideals useless and your dreams impossible. Pity I dont need. My voice is effective since I use it to vote. I realize my dreams on a daily basis. Anything else? | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 1559 Registered: 12-2001 |
Straw, You have recited the "if you're not for Bush, you're unAmerican" line enough that we all have it memorized. Why not write an essay explaining how our policy of unilateral intervention has a happy ending. Maybe Iraq will turn out well-enough. Maybe not. The news reports are certainly mixed. What if we loose 5-10 soldiers per week forever? How will that be in our long-term national interest? It will break the U.S. Army, because serving your nation starts to take on a whole different meaning when you know you are going to be sent to some hot country where people are trying to kill you and wine, women and song are in short supply. Even now, military commitments are starting to take a toll on the reserves. Who would want to serve in the reserves knowing that you might be activated for a long period of time and take a huge income hit or perhaps have your small business fail in your absence. | ||
| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 1794 Registered: 5-2001 |
It's disheartening to see Strawberry go around the bend, and publish un-American statements endorsing blind faith in elected officials. There clearly were claims about Iraq's weapons which are now, ah, "inoperative". If the President thinks it would be embarrassing to get at the truth, too bad. In case President Bush doesn't come clean about this, he should remember one thing about the real Americans out there (as a wise man once said): "We have the money, we have the power, we have the population, and most importantly if we want, we can take you down as well." | ||
| mellie Citizen Username: Mellie Post Number: 236 Registered: 4-2002 |
Just as Boreberry is entitled to express his opinion, so am I. Only I am too polite to express it here. | ||
| mellie Citizen Username: Mellie Post Number: 237 Registered: 4-2002 |
Nah, changed my mind. Boreberry, repeat after me the first amendment. Then go read your post again. Then tell us how acts of treason are being comitted. Then tell us if you are reporting them to the FBI etc if you believe this to be true. And if not, but are in possesion of some facts that lead you to believe otherwise, explain why you are now witholding these facts from the authorities, and how that in itself is not an act of treason. Or, just post another one so we can all have a good laugh. We have the technology, we have the bores, and if we want...duh, I forget. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 1026 Registered: 5-2001 |
well for a lot of people it's easier to just blindly follow the fearless leader, big brother, great leader, or whatever you want to call him, than to actually use your brain on your own. Straw Loves Big Brother. Ann Coulter, current owner of the "treason" charge, is full of shit. | ||
| ml1 Citizen Username: Ml1 Post Number: 1088 Registered: 5-2002  |
don't feed the trolls! | ||
| Dave Ross Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 4822 Registered: 5-2001 |
Exactly. Read around posts from people who use the board as a one-way bullhorn. | ||
| Dave Ross Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 4823 Registered: 5-2001 |
Uh oh.... http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/08/sprj.irq.bush.sotu/index.html | ||
| FOUR STAR STRAW Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 898 Registered: 10-2001 |
It's really sad when you see the liberal establishment once again choosing the wrong route. As Dave's link suggests, we have Dems who believe attacking and investigating the President as he fights terror will be well received. As I've said in the past, this will only further alienate the American people. We know who the bad guys are out there. Hussein was one of them. He is no longer a significant figure because Bush decided to end his reign of terror. We (The American people) are quite pleased with the results. Now, we look to rebuild a nation crucial to the middle east. Not an easy task, but one we must at least attempt to accomplish. This makes sense to those who understand logic. You see liberal weaklings, let me explain something. Yes, we have the power, and the population. Yes, we have the ability to keep the Democrats down and yes, we will continue to do so as long as radical liberals dominate the once proud Democratic party. Thanks for the link Dave. To my other "fans" including (s)mellie I laugh at your insults, I laugh at your bravado and most of all I laugh at your foolish, childish opinions. Oh and this feed the troll thing. Very weak, very dorky and frankly quite boorish. You would expect better from m/1. I guess he's too busy grooming his goatee to come up with something slightly more clever. "We have the money, we have the power, we have the population, and most importantly if we want, we can take you down as well." -Strawberry/ Star Ledger, Sunday June 22, 2003 | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 1560 Registered: 12-2001 |
Actually, Strawberry, if polls are any indication (and we know that all species of politicians live for the polls) Bush's popularity is slipping because his war in Iraq is not looking so tidy after all and because there are concerns that intelligence was deliberately misused in effort to justify the war. If, in fact, intelligence information was deliberately misused to justify an attack on Iraq, this would be far more serious than Clinton lying about his affair with Lewinsky. Finally, you speak as though terrorism will be dealt a fatal blow if/when we get Bin Laden and Hussein. That is unlikely. Terrorism is born out of poverty, poor government and a general feeling of being trampled upon by the United States. If rebuilding work in Afghanistan and Iraq produce a measure of stability and economic improvement, this will be a significant step forward in the struggle against terrorism. We need to be making all out commitments to rebuild both nations and I just don't see that happening. As I have said before, trying to make things better in Afghanistan and Iraq is meaningless. Succeeding is all that counts. This is one case where it is better to not have tried at all than to have tried and failed. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 1028 Registered: 5-2001 |
whether or not it's "well received" is beside the point. It's the right thing to do. Someone -- and I'm not making any claims as to who -- is playing a dangerous game here by allowing the American people to be drawn into a war under false pretenses. And make no mistake, this claim about uranium from Niger is a false pretense. | ||
| duncanrogers Citizen Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 580 Registered: 12-2001 |
One the one hand it is impeachable to lie about getting some nookie from an intern. On the other hand its ok to lie about the justification for our country TO GO TO WAR? This liberal weenie is as glad as the next conservative wonk to see Saddam out of power. But alleged (and I will give bushie that much) manipulation of "fact" to engage in a full out conflict is morally reprehensible at best, impeachable at worst. I imagine it actually falls somewhere in between. Though Bush is probably dancing around the west wing chanting his mantra "plausible deniability....plausible deniability" |
