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FOUR STAR STRAW
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 899
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 9:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually Duncan, Bush is in Africa where among other things he trying to figure out what to do with Liberia.

Tjohn: the polls you mention... Bush is slipping slightly but he's still dominating compared with the two Dems who now run 1-2 in these same polls for 2004. (Gore and Hilary) tee hee.

Tom: I agree investigate the President. It will only enhance his bid in 2004. He committed no crime. He acted on the same cold hard facts Clinton had in 98 when he too responded against Iraq.





"We have the money, we have the power, we have the population, and most importantly if we want, we can take you down as well."

-Strawberry/ Star Ledger, Sunday June 22, 2003


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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 1562
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 9:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Strawberry,

The standard by which I measure Bush is whether or not he is acting in the national interest as opposed to the GOP interest. Whether or not he is leading any Democratic candidate doesn't really interest me. That is a problem for the Democrats, not the nation.

The slippage in his poll standings indicates that more Americans are starting to see that the emperor has no clothes.

The outcome of the 2004 election is entirely in the hands of the gunmen in Iraq. If they are, as von Rumsfeld contends, simple thugs that will be controlled by the government we are trying to establish, then Bush has no concerns. On the other hand, if these gunmen represent the emergence of an ongoing armed uprising like the Infitada, then Bush (and the U.S. for that matter) is in trouble.

P.S. I like the imperial arrogance of your tag line. Let me know when you have read the part of German history where that powerful nation broke on the rocks of its own arrogance and inability to understand foreign points of view.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 1795
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 9:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Found on the Web, the evidence that convinced the President to disregard the CIA's doubts about Niger uranium:

Dear Mister Gaorge Bush:

Please keep this in the strictest confidense. You do not know me, but my name is Umbuto Johnson, and I am the grandson of Ashtari P. Johnson, in charge of the nuclear programme of the African country of Niger.

For severale years, my grandfather had been secretly selling radoactiv materiels to the little known country of Iraqe. He was given the sum of twenty million dollars by Saddem Hussan, of Iraqe, for this materiels. When my grandfather was discovered, two years ago, he was shot by the government. The money from those sales however remained hidden to all.

Before he was caoght, my grandfather shared with me his secret, and gave me instructions on how to move the moneys out of the country. In order to do this, I need the help of a trustworthy American friend and this is why I am seeking to write to you today.

In order to recieve the moneys I must pay a fee bribe of twenty thousand American dollars. I do not have this moneys. If you can send to me these moneys, I will split my grandfathers moneys with you.

Please tell nobody of this message, for I fear I will be in grave danger if it is known. I am relying on you, George Bush, to keep my secret. Respond to me and I will tell you how to send the moneys to me.

Your frend,
Umbuto Johnson
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 1563
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 9:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, but this was only discovered when Laura noticed the 20K missing from her children's college funds.
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mellie
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Username: Mellie

Post Number: 238
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 10:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my issue is with boreberry, not dubya. he accused the posters on this board of treason. has he any facts, or does he now wish to apologize to the posters for this spurious insult ?


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#9Dream
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Username: 9dream

Post Number: 455
Registered: 12-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't hold your breath waiting for either, Mellie. His Strawness has shown his contempt for the First Amendment before and he'll undoubtedly show it again.

If George Bush came out in favor of voodoo, Straw would too because he's that much of a party-line parrot.
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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2

Post Number: 1074
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

treason? good god mellie ... get a life.
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Dave Ross
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 4828
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 11:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There needs to be an independent counsel appointed to look into this to clear the CIA and administration of evidence fabrication. They can't have this shadow over them going into election season without serious trouble. What makes it a serious allegation is the Bush family ties to the CIA. And now we learn numerous changes were made to intelligence information coming out of 10 Downing Street by Blair's junior press officer.

http://www.computerbytesman.com/privacy/blair.htm

We need to get a handle on the primary documents and how they were treated or there will be no trust at all.
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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2

Post Number: 1075
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 11:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Pottymouth ... if send me a privateline then turn yours on so I can privateline you back! I'm flattered you know who I am and I'm amused you guys can get yourself all worked up over an anonymous poster on a message board. I don't need reading glasses and I don't need to get a life. Send me another privateline and change your profile to accept them!
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JJC
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Username: Mercury

Post Number: 65
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 12:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what a lovely little town...
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mellie
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Username: Mellie

Post Number: 239
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 12:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

algebra2 - I hope you are not responding to me above with the "Pottymouth" comment. I did not send you a privateline.

I dunno, boreberry falsely accusing his fellow citizens of treason is not a small thing even if it just a chatroom.
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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2

Post Number: 1078
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh God ... no, Mellie I was responding to the poster "Pottymouth" who privatelined me with regard to my above post.

Anyway, "Smellie", yeah I do think that y'all getting all "up in arms" about "boreberry" falsely accusing his fellow citizens of treason on a message board is pretty funny. Maybe I am just not as serious as you and take everything I read here with a giant grain of salt. I can't imagine letting one annoying poster make my blood boil and cry for an apology, Posts like these:

"Boreberry, repeat after me the first amendment. Then go read your post again. Then tell us how acts of treason are being comitted. Then tell us if you are reporting them to the FBI etc if you believe this to be true. And if not, but are in possesion of some facts that lead you to believe otherwise, explain why you are now witholding these facts from the authorities, and how that in itself is not an act of treason.

Or, just post another one so we can all have a good laugh."

make me wonder. Are you really concerned that "boreberry" is going to contact the FBI and, for what it's worth, you don't sound like you're having any "good laughs" ... Honestly, I think you should lighten up. Thank God for Strawberry, certainly would be boring just reading a board with a bunch of posters agreeing with one another.
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mellie
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Username: Mellie

Post Number: 240
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 1:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

perhap my satire is to deep - i am merely demonstrating the fatuousness of his remarks with his own remarks.

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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2

Post Number: 1079
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 1:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

See, and I don't even know what "fatuousness" means
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duncanrogers
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Username: Duncanrogers

Post Number: 582
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

fatuousness:
complacently or inanely foolish: SILLY
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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2

Post Number: 1080
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 1:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, don't I feel fatuousness.
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FOUR STAR STRAW
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 900
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 5:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As an above poster mentioned, I suggest all anti-American liberals grab a copy of "Treason". You just may learn something.

"Liberals have a preternatural gift for always striking a position on the side of treason,” says Coulter. “Everyone says liberals love America, too. No, they don’t.” From Truman to Kennedy to Carter to Clinton, America has contained, appeased, and retreated, often sacrificing America’s best interests and security. With the fate of the world in the balance, liberals should leave the defense of the nation to conservatives.

Reexamining the sixty-year history of the Cold War and beyond—including the career of Senator Joseph McCarthy, the Whittaker Chambers–Alger Hiss affair, Ronald Reagan’s challenge to Mikhail Gorbachev to “tear down this wall,” the Gulf War, and our present war on terrorism—Coulter reveals how liberals have been horribly wrong in all their political analyses and policy prescriptions. McCarthy, exonerated by the Venona Papers if not before, was basically right about Soviet agents working for the U.S. government. Hiss turned out to be a high-ranking Soviet spy (who consulted Roosevelt at Yalta). Reagan, ridiculed throughout his presidency, ended up winning the Cold War. And George W. Bush, also an object of ridicule, has performed exceptionally in responding to America’s newest threats at home and abroad.

Coulter, who in Slander exposed a liberal bias in today’s media, also examines how history, especially in the latter half of the twentieth century, has been written by liberals and, therefore, distorted by their perspective. Far from being irrelevant today, her clearheaded and piercing view of what we’ve been through informs us perfectly for challenges today and in the future.

With Slander, Ann Coulter became the most recognized and talked-about conservative intellectual of the year. Treason, in many ways an even more controversial and prescient book, will ignite impassioned political debate at one of the most crucial moments in our history."

"We have the money, we have the power, we have the population, and most importantly if we want, we can take you down as well."

-Strawberry/ Star Ledger, Sunday June 22, 2003


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Dave Ross
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 4829
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 6:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will respond, but I have to stop laughing first....
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 1798
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 6:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Even conservative columnists are running from Ann Coulter's latest book, "Treason". Read Dorothy Rabinowitz's column in the Wall Street Journal the other day, for example. Ms. Rabinowitz (who has done a great deal of work exposing other types of witch hunts) deftly slices up Ms. Coulter's obsession with actually defending McCarthy. Ms. Coulter is the poster child for today's coarsening of political discourse.
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 1564
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 9, 2003 - 6:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if the liberal abolitionists were wrong or perhaps those liberal freaks (even had long hair) who wrote that stuff about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness were wrong.

P.S. Herr Strawberry,

The handling of the Soviet Union in WW II was just fine. A war with the USSR, although we would have prevailed would have been horrendous and might have destroyed our democracy. As one wise leader noted in 1945, or so, we have to end this war to save democracy before it destroys democracy. War, after all, is the enemy of democracy.

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