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#9Dream
Citizen Username: 9dream
Post Number: 459 Registered: 12-2002

| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 12:54 pm: |    |
Lumpyhead -- don't you mean Michael Moore? Michael Myers is a whole different ballgame:
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tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 1030 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 1:12 pm: |    |
"Liberals hate religion because politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition." -- Ann Coulter, P. 194 You mean like Jesse Jackson, or the Reverend Martin Luther King? Hey, here's a good one, Ari Fleischer live from Pretoria, as reported on Salon.com:
quote:"I think the American people continue to express their support for ridding the world of Saddam Hussein based on just cause, knowing that Saddam Hussein had chemical and biological weapons that were unaccounted for that we're still confident we'll find. I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have weapons of mass destruction to tell the world where they are."
Read that last sentence again! And they say Republicans are stupid! Let me rephrase it: I say that Straw doesn't have a thermonuclear device in the trunk of his car. Therefore, the burden is on ME to tell the world where it is! |
   
#9Dream
Citizen Username: 9dream
Post Number: 460 Registered: 12-2002

| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 2:01 pm: |    |
1. That line is further proof that Ann Coulter is a bigot and a moron. 2. Hopefully anyone with any sense knows you can't prove a negative. I happen to believe that Iraq DID have an illegal WMD stash, but the burden is still on the US and UK to prove it. |
   
tuscano
Citizen Username: Tuscano
Post Number: 65 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 3:09 pm: |    |
Anne Coulter is someone's idea of an intellectual? Who's his other favorite great thinker--"Velma" from "Scooby Doo"? "I have an annuity, I have an ISP, I have time to kill, and most importantly I haven't a thought in my head..." --Six Cylinder Dingleberry |
   
joso
Citizen Username: Joso
Post Number: 96 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 4:41 pm: |    |
Ann Coulter is an idiot. Anyone with doubts on this point need only watch the interview in which Chris Matthews eviscerated her shoddily conceived premise for "Treason".
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FOUR STAR STRAW
Citizen Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 903 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 4:48 pm: |    |
Well, it looks like she has the Liberal MOL big mouth community figured out as well.. "If it were true that conservatives were racist, sexist, homophobic, fascist, stupid, inflexible, angry, and self-righteous, shouldn't their arguments be easy to deconstruct? Someone who is making a point out of anger, ideology, inflexibility, or resentment would presumably construct a flimsy argument. So why can't the argument itself be dismembered rather than the speaker's personal style or hidden motives? Why the evasions?" -- Ann Coulter, P. 10 You're all very sad and worthless. Thank You
"We have the money, we have the power, we have the population, and most importantly if we want, we can take you down as well." -Strawberry/ Star Ledger, Sunday June 22, 2003
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JJC
Citizen Username: Mercury
Post Number: 66 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 4:59 pm: |    |
Straw - you can stop now. |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 1032 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 5:12 pm: |    |
going at this one again: "Liberals hate religion because politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition." -- Ann Coulter, P. 194 Deconstruct this: Jimmy Carter -- liberal and religious. Whether you respect him or not is irrelevant. He is both, so therefore Coulter's statement is false. "Here the country had finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism and they don't want to fight it. They would have, except it would put them on the same side as the United States." -- Ann Coulter, P. 5 While more than, say, 30% of Americans would identify themselves as "liberal," only, say, 10% were against going to war against Afghanistan. (I'm making those numbers up, don't have time to dig through opinion polls, but nobody's going to be able to disprove my basic point, which is...) Therefore, there must be some liberals who supported the war. Ergo, again, Coulter is incorrect. |
   
mellie
Citizen Username: Mellie
Post Number: 245 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 5:15 pm: |    |
hey straw - can you read ? I deconstructed your argument already. I showed that your accusation of treason was spurious because you did nothing to follow through. So you do not therefore believe what you say, so your arguments are flimsy because they are easily deconstructed. Other than accusing us of treason, what actual arguments have you put forward ? Any other fatuous arguments you want deconstrcuted today ? |
   
Nohero
Citizen Username: Nohero
Post Number: 1801 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 5:34 pm: |    |
Why bother, folks? Somebody like Ann Coulter makes money by doing very thing she accuses others of doing. Her books are deceptive, unsupported diatribes, where insult takes the place of "deconstructing arguments". The books are just long repetitions of the "when did you stop beating your wife" ploy. It's the same tactic used by the most insulting posters, who accuse other people of being insulting. And now, back on topic. This is the latest quote from Press Secretary Ari Fleischer: "I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have weapons of mass destruction to tell the world where they are." I hope that clears everything up for you liberals out there. |
   
Dave Ross
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 4836 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 5:52 pm: |    |
I wonder if Ms. Coulter knows that Deconstruction is French philosophy???  |
   
mellie
Citizen Username: Mellie
Post Number: 247 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 6:25 pm: |    |
Well Dave, granted I have not read the author's books but from the precis it almost looks like a false premise is postulated (that a reader thinks the text is fixed in meaning) so that Derrida can demonstrate the opposite - that the text has multiple meanings. I would have thought that from the get-go this is obviously false -eg using the Bible or the Second Amendment as examples, it would appear that there are continual multiple interpretatinons of the written word. The problem would appear to be the opposite -that the author views his text as having the meaning he intended to to have, but the readers do not. Perhaps Raymond Chandler's axiom should be applied (or was it Oscar Wilde) - Books are either well written or they are not - that is all. Those that are not fall under Derrida. Of course, to the extent that I have interpreted the precis differently to it's author's intentions I may have proved Derrida's viewpoint. How's that for saying nothing in 200 words or less |
   
FOUR STAR STRAW
Citizen Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 904 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 7:03 pm: |    |
Mellie, "Liberals hate religion because politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition." -- Ann Coulter, P. 194
"We have the money, we have the power, we have the population, and most importantly if we want, we can take you down as well." -Strawberry/ Star Ledger, Sunday June 22, 2003
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Dave Ross
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 4837 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 7:18 pm: |    |
At least we aren't generalizing anymore.... |
   
mellie
Citizen Username: Mellie
Post Number: 248 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 7:31 pm: |    |
Boreberry, fun though this is, I admit failure in being able to deconstruct your latest post. No doubt it is true that on page 194 Coulter wrote what you quote above...but no doubt it is equally true that on page 2 of my microwave instructions it says "Do not turn on if metal objects are inside the microwave" Both are equally irrelevant. Perhaps you can help me here - what message are you - boreberry -conveying by the above quote? Then I will take it to pieces for you. But until you put something of yourself in your posts, you are just an empty vessel. Speaking of empty vessels, are you sure you are not Ann Coulter? |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 1033 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 7:32 pm: |    |
thus goes the conservative methodology. I've disproven straw's last post twice already, and his response is to just post it again.
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Chris Prenovost
Citizen Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 8:12 pm: |    |
Coulter makes some intriguing points spiced up with some tasty sound bites, but she tends to go wildly overboard as do most media talking heads. I wonder if that is because the media tends to promote people who are loud, shrill, and extremist in their views. Presumably, these uniformly obnoxious talking heads gather a lot more buzz if they are loud, shrill and obnoxious. |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 1034 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 8:16 pm: |    |
higher entertainment value, I guess, than a bunch of soft spoken folks hashing out the finer points. |
   
mellie
Citizen Username: Mellie
Post Number: 249 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 8:16 pm: |    |
Now there is a statement that needs no deconstruction. It applies to boreberry and lo...the media quoted him.
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anon
Citizen Username: Anon
Post Number: 727 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 8:18 pm: |    |
Boring! |