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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1637
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:45 pm: |     |
Maybe so, but some axes are bigger than others... and there'a nothing wrong with that either. 
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thelight
Citizen
Username: Thelight
Post Number: 62
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:54 pm: | |
Newsflash!
The Maplewood Police Department will continue to operate from 125 Dunnell Rd.! We will not be moving to a "new", read different, building. The Township can't even agree to settle our contract by offering us a fair increase in our salary! They don't even have the decency to offer us what was given to the Fire Department. (The F.D. and the Township came to an agreement on their contract). Once again, The Police have to take a back seat, and another slap in the face, to other agencies within our Township. I wonder how many more Officers will be leaving the Department this month?
Thank You,
The Light. |
officerfriendly
Citizen
Username: Officerfriendly
Post Number: 7
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 7:45 am: | |
Newsflash 2!!
Another MPD officer put his resignation in Monday! :-(
That's 3 we lost in June, 1 in July, and I hear another 2 are leaving in August.
STOP THE MADNESS!!! |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1070
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 7:46 am: | |
If parking was banned at Parker and Burr, why are there so many cars parked there on Sundays?
It looks to me like all they did was close a few spots, so that the parking would disperse onto the sidestreets a little more. Which is nice, because now you can actually DRIVE on Parker on a Sunday without worrying about running into something. |
newjerz
Citizen
Username: Newjerz
Post Number: 47
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 8:54 am: | |
officerfriendly: what are the main motivations in these officers resigining?
Please explain what the madness is?
If we are not treating the police force in our town the way we should or not providing them with the resources to effectively provide for our safety it is a big issue. Especially given our proximity to Newark & Irvington.
By the way, these are the types of issues the town council should be concerned with, not foreign policy statements. |
virgilian
Citizen
Username: Virgilian
Post Number: 71
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:15 am: | |
My neighbors park in front of my house instead of theirs. It used to make me wonder why, but after years i'm very used to it. They just don't like parking in front of their house. It's not problem of any sort, just a habit of theirs.
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spw784
Citizen
Username: Spw784
Post Number: 347
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 11:17 am: | |
My neighbors park in front of my house, because my street only allows parking on one side of the street ---mine! |
-af
Citizen
Username: Java_drinker
Post Number: 242
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:00 pm: | |
My two cents…
- Since parking regulations prohibit overnight parking, it's not like they leave their rusted out jalopy decomposing in front of your (or their) homes.
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- Generally speaking, this sounds like a communication issue. Instead of raising a stink on the board (thinking that somehow that will solve the problem), go over to your neighbor’s house and voice your concern with the most fake smile you can muster.
You know, I would wager that half of the concerns that people raise on MOL could be settled if they’d just calmly let the offending party know that you’re irked. I know that it worked for me: My neighbor’s lawn was getting out-of-control all the time; I offered to share mowing responsibilities. Even though that wasn’t the utilized solution, the problem was worked out, without coming to blows in an all-out flame fest on line.
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jfburch
Citizen
Username: Jfburch
Post Number: 682
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 2:19 pm: | |
We could also cut Newneighbor some slack. I doubt he/she was trying to start a flame fest. I know when I first moved here after years in cities with wall to wall parked cars and found that frequently there would be several cars parked next to my house and none elsewhere along the block, I got a bit territorial and cranky too.
At some point I realized that as Joan suggested above, there were perfectly reasonable reasons for it--it's the closest parking to an avenue where parking is legal but not practical.
Over time I've gotten used to it and it's just part of the famliliar pattern of life in my neighborhood.
If it is a problem with a specific neighbor, talking might well fix it, though it would probably help to just get to know the neighbor first and go from there. |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 3245
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 2:26 pm: | |
Why do the neighbors with the Mercedes and the Acura always park in front of their own house, but the neighbors with the Toyotas and the rusty AMC Pacer always park in front of my house? 
Kidding aside, I think everyone gets a little territorial on this subject. When we first moved to MW one of the neighborhood old timers lectured me on this subject when I parked in front of her house. |
Mr. Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 302
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 2:36 pm: | |
Art, I can imagine your frustration if the silly rules leave inadequate parking on your block. However, I think others here are annoyed at the simple act of neighbors or strangers parking in front of their homes.
My eyebrow went up for about two seconds one morning recently, when a young woman parked in front of my home. I quickly learned that she is the next door neighbor's nanny. Mystery solved, and I'm content.
I think people think they should have a say in what goes on in front of their property. To the extent that parking blocks access, they should. But beyond that, I think they need to relax. And I'm not talking about you, Art. I see you have a grievance, but it seems different from theirs.
Tom Reingold
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gtonne
Citizen
Username: Gtonne
Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 3:44 pm: | |
Try living on Tuscan Street in the Hilton neighborhood. The employees of Wyman Ford park up one entire side of the street every day. The other side is no parking. Visitors, when the driveway is occupied, usually have to park around the corner. |
Mr. Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 303
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 4:12 pm: | |
So are you saying that parking around the corner from your house is a burden? If so, why?
Tom Reingold
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gtonne
Citizen
Username: Gtonne
Post Number: 4
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 4:42 pm: | |
No, not a burden. It's just a little annoying that our residential street is a basically a parking lot for a business. The houses are close to the street and there are always cars parked there. It's not the end of the world, just a bit annoying. |
Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 1806
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 4:47 pm: | |
Fact: There is too little parking available in some parts of town to meet the demand. Some of this - parking by the high school, parking by the train station/library/middle school, 15 minute parking limit in front of the Police Station, parking battle on Art's portion of of Elmwood Avenue is the result of social engineering and/or political response to noisy protests by people who live in the area. Others, such as the parking situation in the village, parking around those houses of worship which have few or no parking facilities of their own, parking on Springfield Avenue, etc. are simply the result of demand outpacing the supply.
I agree with Art that we need creative solutions to reduce the parking demand where volume is the sole cause of a critical parking solution and to re-examine local ordinances where the parking problem can be eased by a thoughtful restructuring of existing ordinances.
In addition to the suggestions mentioned above, I would like to recommend that people walk more around town - Maplewood is very pedestrian friendly once you learn how to safely use our crosswalks. |
Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 1807
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 4:55 pm: | |
Thelight, Officer Friendly:
Have negiotiations bogged down completely or merely been defered temporarily for some supportable reason? Is binding arbitration an option if all else has failed?
I can't believe after everything I heard about the problems with the present Police Headquarters Building that there are no plans in the works to address the lack of space and poor physical condition of the headquarters building. Have any other alternatives to the office building next door (recently sold I heard) or the Verizon Building been proposed? Has there been any progress on working condition issues such as the lap tops, fixed patrol schedule, common locker room/bathroom facilities, etc.? |
johnny
Citizen
Username: Johnny
Post Number: 690
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 5:37 pm: | |
A couple of things:
1) Does anyone know what the Joint Meeting is?
2) If I remember correctly, Art was renting out his home for weddings.
3) It may not be the law, but COMMON COURTESY says you should park in front of your own house.
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mgl
Citizen
Username: Mgl
Post Number: 55
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 1, 2003 - 12:03 am: | |
My neighbor constantly parks in front of my house leaving the front of his house clear. The whole street is open and he has to park his piece of crap in front of my place...makes me crazy. |
Mr. Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 310
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 1, 2003 - 12:14 pm: | |
mgl, why does it make you crazy?
Tom Reingold
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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1663
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 1, 2003 - 2:40 pm: | |
Johnny,
You're right, it is more about COMMON COURTESY then what the law says...
Although it was never more than four times in a year, and those wedding guests were parking on a public street, I can see now where it could have become an annoyance to my neighbors.
Tom, it makes it a lot easier to understand Mgl's crazy feelings and my neighbor's territorial feelings after the town took away all the residential parking around us, especially the parking in front of my own home. There’s always a lot to be said for first hand experience!
Nevertheless, even though I can appreciate the problems of using a residential street for commercial reasons, I still feel the personal use of your home for entertaining is a completely different animal.
While we’re on the subject, I also have to feel sorry for the residents around the train station and the village who have the front of their homes being used by the town as if it were a commercial parking garage.
Permit parking, restricted parking, and no-stopping – no-standing are all problems we’re forced to deal with just about everywhere we go.
But, regardless of anything I’ve said here, I still feel strongly that the TC must exercise every preventative measure possible before taking away any residential parking unless it’s absolutely, 100% necessary.
I don’t have the answer to the problem, but rest assured you’ll know when I do... |
Mr. Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 318
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 11:14 am: | |
Art, I took a look at your block this weekend. I hope you don't mind. I think we're talking about different problems. Your problem is that there's no parking allowed on your street. I don't know how much parking there is on bobk and newneighbor's streets, but there's much more than enough on my street (Plymouth Av). I think the problem they're speaking of is eyesore cars, which they feel don't belong in front of their houses, for aesthetic or territorial reasons.
Tom Reingold
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Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 1836
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 5:20 pm: | |
Tom:
This thread was started by someone who wanted to park in front of his/her house so he/she could move some heavy furniture more conveniently. It is about the limited availability of on street parking in some neighborhoods.
Parking is not be much of a problem on Plymouth Avenue. The street is relatively wide and heavily single family residential. There are no schools, places of worship, community centers, train stations, stores, or other businesses where you are. Permit parking and no parking restrictions don't apply there.
Elsewhere in town, they definitely do. |
Mr. Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 322
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 5:29 pm: | |
See, that's another problem. Someone was disrespectful to newneighbor (the originator of this thread). We're talking about separate problems, as if they're all the same. It does sound like he was inconvenienced, but I don't know the facts. Did the people who parked in front of his house have any clues that he'd need access to the sidewalk? (And I'm assuming that "walkway" means the sidewalk in front of his house, but I could be wrong.) I think that, often, it is acceptable manners to park in front of a house that is not yours and that you are not visiting. It is also acceptable manners to ask a stranger to refrain from parking in front of your house if you need convenient access, such as when you're moving furniture.
The discussion took some tangents, and there were people who objected to the practice categorically. (I'm speaking of the practice of parking in front of a stranger's house.) That is the issue I took up. I mean no disrespect to newneighbor or ajc. I trust that the problems they and you describe are real.
Is that somewhat clearer now?
Tom Reingold
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bella
Citizen
Username: Bella
Post Number: 326
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 - 3:08 pm: | |
Tom,
As long as I can remember, and remember I grew up in Maplewood, and was next door to your new house for 6 years, it was just considered impolite to park in front of someone else's house if the spot in front of your house was clear. When I moved to Cincinnati parking was treated the same way in the suburbs. So I don't think that it is some unwritten code of conduct that people in Maplewood conjured up. It reminds me of eating at home with the whole family, it really irked me when my sister would sit in "my" seat.
Sorry that I never responded to private line. Actually, I did, but I just hit reply in my email system & the email subsequently got returned undeliverable. |
mgl
Citizen
Username: Mgl
Post Number: 56
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 - 3:59 pm: | |
Tom,
The street is wide open, no cars. Why can't they clutter up the front of their own property? I don't want their junky cars in front of my house all the time. Their friends also park in front of my house. It's a freakin' mystery.
I agree with many...it's common courtesy to park in front of your own house if the spot is clear. |
hello
Citizen
Username: Hello
Post Number: 13
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 - 5:26 pm: | |
maybe i can ask this here?
what's the deal with the folks turning down brookside and parking next to/across from the elementary school's back field, on the south side of the school? are they freeloading vis a vis the parking permit? if so, IF, why can't the city extend the parking zone to there- it's 3 blocks from the train station, much closer than paid parking on the other side of the tracks. |
newjerz
Citizen
Username: Newjerz
Post Number: 63
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 - 5:31 pm: | |
You're absolutely correct. There should be permit parking all the way up Durand, Woodland, Highland, Maryland, Viginia, and Baker. |
Mr. Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 329
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 - 5:50 pm: | |
Folks, I stand corrected. As new kid on the block, I ought to listen to what people say about behavior that expected and behavior that is shunned. I will bear in mind that I should park in front of my own house rather than someone else's, whenever possible. I suppose it's still up to me if I want to get annoyed if someone uses the space in front of my own house, and I might choose not to get annoyed or perplexed.
Thanks for the help.
Tom Reingold
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