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Pierce Butler
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 9:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was at the Short Hills Mall this weekend, and I made a game of spotting as many reasons as possible for why the rest of the world hates us. Here's what I came up with:

1. You walk into the mall and it's about 40 degrees. I can only imagine how much energy the mall is wasting by keeping it so damn cold that people are literally shivering and putting on sweaters IN AUGUST! I guess they've done studies showing that people will buy more clothing, food, and personal massage chairs when it is freezing.

2. The woman trying on $180 sunglasses. Why would someone spend that much on something she is going to leave on a bus in two weeks anyway? Maybe buy the $5 sunglasses from a street vendor and use the rest to feed a village in Africa FOR A YEAR!

3. Another woman who bought a handbag and then said nothing when the cashier put it in another bag to carry around with her. Yo-yo, you are buying a bag. It has handles. Is there some reason you need to put it inside a piece of plastic that will then end up in a landfill for the next 10,000 years or so. In some countries, you have to ask for a bag if you want one; here, I go into the grocery store to buy a quart of milk and when I tell them I don't need a bag, they look at me like I just said that men from Mars have landed.

4. The person driving the H2 in the parking lot. 'Nuff said.
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Brett
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 9:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I Completly agree with the exception of the sunglasses. I have very light eyes and wear sunglasses all year. The pair I have now I bought 4 years ago. So $180 is reasonable for me but not everyone.

You didn't mention the $4 coffees or the massive food court.

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Charles A. Moody
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Username: Chedron

Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 9:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The world hates America because of the Short Hills Mall?
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 1832
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 10:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with everything here except, who cares if the rest of the world hates us...
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shestheone
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 10:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hmmm, i for one would prefer to not experience another 9/11...it happened -- in part -- because the rest of the world hates us.
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algebra2
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Post Number: 1121
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 10:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you can afford expensive sunglasses why not buy them? If I bought an expensive handbag, not one I want to schlepp around the mall with, yeah, I might put it in a shopping bag to keep it from getting scratched, wet, whatever. High end companies need business also, maybe their employees aren't as "important" as employees of $5 sunglass stores, but hey ... we need our paychecks also.

Who are you ... Kate Hudson all of a sudden? I'm not too concerned about people hating me - maybe because I don't walk around malls looking down my nose at people. Sounds like a fun "game" you play on your free time.
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us2innj
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Post Number: 809
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did anyone catch the remarks Kate Hudson made while in Paris?

"sometimes I'll be walking on the street and hear some American, and I'll just go, of course they hate us, (giggle, laugh), of course they can't stand us, we're, ya know the most annoying, boisterous creatures in the world. Ya know, mounds of food, we're like where's the katchup (her pronunciation) for our french fries, and excuse me, ya know and all these things and you're going shut-up."

Wasn't Kate Hudson the girl born with the silver spoon in her mouth? Didn't American moviegoers put her in a position of celebrity? Time to take back some of that recognition. And, oh, isn't her mother (Goldie Hawn, even in character) the most annoying ditz on two legs?

Time to reevaluate Kate Hudson, let her stay in France.

To hear the interview, go to the website below. Not for children!


I hate kate

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mem
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Post Number: 1834
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 10:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm, the part of the world that caused 9/11 has hated everyone including themselves for thousands of years. Screw them (sorry Dave, I had to say it). Anyway, they have been and are making threats to most of the western world, not just us.
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AZ
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 10:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They definitely don't have Hummers, SUVs, exotic luxury items in Europe or Middle East. Yeah, right. Like America invented opulence. Look around main urban centers in the eastern hemisphere and you will find exactly the same thing. And, since we are the hardest working country in the world, we deserve what he have.
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Charles A. Moody
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 10:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My wife advised me to check out this section, and the first thing I see is this thread. Holy ignorance.
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-af
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Username: Java_drinker

Post Number: 246
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 11:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The rest of the world hates not for the Short Hills Malls that we build here, but for the ones we build "there".

And because we had a war-monger appointed as "king-for-a-term".
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tjohn
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Post Number: 1615
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"And, since we are the hardest working country in the world, we deserve what we have. "

This strikes me as a fine example of the condition of myopia that afflicts so many Americans. Countless millions of people struggle every day of their lives and, at the end of their lives, have nothing to show for their sacrifice.

Whenever I think about it, I consider it to be a blessing/miracle that:

1. We manage to live mostly by the rule of law despite human tendencies to favor their own families before the law.
2. We have a powerful military that remains obedient to civilian control.
3. We have not had war on our own soil since 1865 (minor exceptions excluded).
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Redsox
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Post Number: 298
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 12:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

speaking of short hills mall,

we forgot to wish a hearty welcome back to Mr. Taubman.
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zoe
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Post Number: 292
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 2:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tjohn, do "minor exceptions excluded," refer to the attack on our country resulting in the collapse of the World Trade Center?

How trivial those lives must be to someone like you. You post here on a thread entitled "Why the rest of the world hates us, and you respnd with something like the almost 3,000 dead from the unprovoked attack as though it is trivial?

How dare you! I lost many friends and people I knew that day. Many others lost loved ones. I'm sorry, but the entire world changed for most Americans on that day. It was an act of war!

Your statement is false when you say, "we have not had war on our own soil since 1865." Please correct yourself.
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#9Dream
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Post Number: 534
Registered: 12-2002


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 3:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

shestheone - it happened -- in part -- because the rest of the world hates us.

WRONG. It happened, in full, because of a genocidal madman and his fanatical followers. Bin Laden has enough money and a big enough following to do a lot of real good in his part of the world. Does he do it? NO. He uses that money and power to kill, and he enjoys doing it.

I, for one, do not feel any compunction to alter my lifestyle to placate the likes of Osama bin Laden. F*** him, F*** all his followers, and F*** everyone who sees him as a hero.
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-af
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Post Number: 248
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 3:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps tjohn should have said "country-on-country war". No one doubts that the events of 9/11/01 were horrible and the loss of lives, no matter how many, is always regrettable.

But, Zoë, along those lines I bet you have no idea how many Iraqi citizens have been killed in the Bush wars or for that matter how many non-Americans have been killed by Muslim militants (including Al-Queda) around the world.

Yet another reason there is sentiment against Americans around the world is our myopic view that the only lives that count live here. Perhaps if our appointed administration didn’t see the world as ‘them and us” and acted in the interest of global welfare rather than that of Halliburton, the Carlyle Group and the Saudi theocracy.
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tjohn
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Post Number: 1617
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 3:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dearest Zoe,

There have been acts of war committed on our soil since 1865. The loss of life has certainly has not been trivial. However, this is vastly differently from having a home game when the sport is war.

War on your own soil is when you are Polish and your country is overrun by the Nazis and then is the battleground between the Nazis and Russians and one in six of your citizens is killed or wounded.

War on your own soil is when you live in Monrovia and you are caught between two warring mobs sometimes called the government and the rebels.

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Arnomation
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 7-2003


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

--The world hates America because of the Short Hills Mall? --

LOL!!!! Now THAT's funny !!! Why weren't you that funny in the other thread :-)


--I, for one, do not feel any compunction to alter my lifestyle to placate the likes of Osama bin Laden. F*** him, F*** all his followers, and F*** everyone who sees him as a hero.--

I'll bet if you lived in a different part of the world you could just as easily substitute 'BUSH' for 'bin Laden' in that sentence and it would make perfect sense :-0
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lumpyhead
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Post Number: 356
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But this is Maplewood/South Orange, not a different part of the world. As much as you, Brooklyn, France and Al-Quida hate Bush please don't equate him with Osama Bin Laden. GWB isn't responsible for that many deaths despite the wars.
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#9Dream
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Post Number: 537
Registered: 12-2002


Posted on Monday, August 4, 2003 - 4:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The body count comparison isn't even a reasonable debate tactic, since the US military doesn't DELIBERATELY AIM at civilians.

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