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TK South Orange
Citizen
Username: Tk_south_orange
Post Number: 28
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 6:27 pm: |     |
Just fabulous. Good prices - food that makes your eyes roll into your head. Small dining area. one fault - limited bathroom facility - you have to go into kitchen. But I am SO GOING BACK!
Just really really good. and reasonable. Was so full couldn't have desert - loved it.
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gibbsgirl
Citizen
Username: Gibbsgirl
Post Number: 35
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 9:25 am: | |
OK....sounds good, but where is it???? |
joecool
Citizen
Username: Joecool
Post Number: 67
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 9:32 am: | |
We have been there many times and each time was amazing! A true treasure.
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ReallyTrying
Citizen
Username: Reallytrying
Post Number: 125
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 1:32 pm: | |
Where is it? What is it? |
paddy
Citizen
Username: Paddy
Post Number: 120
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:29 pm: | |
It's a small restaurant on Village Plaza (small street that's off South Orange Ave) right across from Spiotta Park. Pretty much in the center of the village. |
Jason & John
Citizen
Username: Johnh91011
Post Number: 50
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 8:50 pm: | |
I have heard that service is incredibly slow. Was that your experience, Tk or joecool?
John |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1756
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:31 pm: | |
"I have heard that service is incredibly slow."
J&J
We have also been there several times. Incredibly good food and service....
Slow, No! Unhurried, which is what most of us look for when fine dinning!
As always, if you need fast, then it’s fast food, or you can always sit at the counter at a diner and request fast service…
Yanick's - South Orange, IMO, well worth the wait! |
Jason & John
Citizen
Username: Johnh91011
Post Number: 51
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:11 am: | |
For God's sake AJC give it a rest. I read on a previous posting that a few people had bad experiences there with 45 minutes before the appetizers came and 1 hour after that for the entrees. Fine dining!! Please don't talk down to people who are just trying to confirm rumors and not starting them. Don't preach to the choir about fine living. Some of us have a clue about these things |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1760
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 1:59 pm: | |
I think you guys need to give it a rest! (was there a full moon last night?)
I don't see a previous posting on this thread that says “a few people had bad experiences there with a 45 minute wait before the appetizers came, and 1 hour after that for the entrees.”
Look, why don't you get your facts straight when you say:
"Please don't talk down to people who are just trying to confirm rumors and not starting them."
Well, the truth is I don’t like it when anyone spreads rumors. "I have heard that service is incredibly slow." That's what is called hearsay, and in this case that’s spreading a rumor. If you two had been there and experienced incredibly slow service, then you have every right to give your opinion. Masking your negative statement as a question is in reality just taking a cheap shot at local business people. That doesn’t sit well with me...
You two where looking for information and I offered you my personal and first hand opinion of Yanick’s. If you weren’t so hell bent on busting balls, you would have noticed that every other poster was raving about what a treasure this place is.
I will offer you one more personal opinion of mine; don’t underestimate who’s clueless about any of these topics that adversely affects our local business community.
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Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 67
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 2:36 pm: | |
I believe that it’s considered “Word-of-Mouth” not “Hearsay”, and that’s how restaurants get most of their reviews, good or bad. After eating there if someone asked me my opinion I would say it was OK. I would go back but I’d try some other places first. I wouldn’t consider it fine dining though. Ajc, you should have tried the Prozac appetizer.
J&J don’t comment, it might be construed as “Readsay”.
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Jason & John
Citizen
Username: Johnh91011
Post Number: 52
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 2:49 pm: | |
Thanks Brett:
I had posted a while back on whether someone had actually eaten there because I had never heard of the place anywhere online or in any yellow page listing for South Orange. The only 2 posts I got were negative.
This time the only posts are positive. Maybe I will try it sometime since we are really up for new experiences and giving businesses in SO/M every chance. |
mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 553
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 2:53 pm: | |
I have been there several times. I think the food is great. The service is good. It states right on the menu that everything is cooked to order, so please be patient. It does take about an hour for the entree to come. That is not a reflection of the service.
I suggest ordering a salad, having a glass of wine (BYOB)and enjoying the evening. What makes it nice is that there is no rush and you can take your time. Some restaurants get you in and out so fast you wonder what the point was of going out for a relaxing dinner.
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Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 5027
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 2:54 pm: | |
Whatever it's called, it's probably valuable feedback (no pun intended) for Yannick's. If they're listening or know about MOL. Many businesses sit in the dark (another non-intended pun) about how the public and their customers perceive them. |
Jason & John
Citizen
Username: Johnh91011
Post Number: 53
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 3:15 pm: | |
Thank you mrosner and Dave. We will definitely give Yannick's a try.
By the way Dave Maplewood Online is great for feedback for businesses. It should be required reading for all SO/M business specially restaurants |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1761
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 5:29 pm: | |
I have one thing to say to you Brett, It ain’t “Word-of-Mouth”!
When anyone posts on a local Internet message board, "I have heard that service is incredibly slow", I believe that in the court of “Fairness in Dealing”, that kind of third party statement is spreading a negative rumor. As a businessman, those are fighting words to me.
How can anyone defend against that statement when they don't know whom they're dealing with? You are attacking the owner’s livelihood, and you're discouraging others from trying their restaurant.
If you’re talking word of mouth, then how do we know whose lips J&J took that information from? Were they friend or foe? Did these people just hear about it from someone else too?
Look, J&J didn’t say, so and so said the service is incredibly slow. They haven't been there, they only said they heard, not they experienced it! That's hearsay...
FYI, restaurants get their reviews, good or bad, from critic’s who actually ate at the restaurant. Who ever heard a critic say, I have heard that service is incredibly slow, or I heard the food is really not fine dining?
BTW, I’m not sure I understood from your comment that you personally ate there yourself? I mean I can’t imagine what you consider to be fine dining, but if good food prepared to order isn’t, then I’d sure like to know what is…
One more thing on a more positive note; I glad to see that J&J are willing to give Yanick’s a try! I still believe it’s well worth the wait!  |
Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 70
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 7:15 pm: | |
Atj:
First of all changing your font is not an argument.
Second: From what I read J&J asked if the rumor / word-of-mouth / accusation was true. It was a question “Was that your experience, Tk or joecool?” I can usually tell it’s a question by the question mark (?) Facts are followed by periods (.) or exclamation points (!) example: You are out of control!
Third I would prefer not to start another argument here. In my opinion (That’s what I said in the post)
Fine dining:
1 Jacket and tie minimum
2 2+ servers per table
3 6+ courses
4 NO SUBSITUTIONS (The chef can match food better then I can)
5 White table clothes / napkins not cheeky designs.
6 Real silver
7 Matching wines with the meal (Fine dining is NEVER byob) I like the appropriate wine with each course
8 All of the things that I don’t realize makes a meal spectacular
I enjoyed my meal there, but it wasn’t a 10. Emeril's in the MGM Grand, Las Vegas was a 9 . I look forward to the day I find my 10. I’ve never seen you jump to the defense of Gaslight or SO Grill so don’t act like the martyr of local business.
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Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 5032
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 7:45 pm: | |
Jacket and tie? Oooh la la. |
Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 72
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 7:47 pm: | |
Sorry just need to add.. a neon sign stating “FINE DINING” does not make it Fine Dining |
shh
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 618
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:29 pm: | |
Oh my goodness. There is a SNOB among us.
Try the Ryland Inn. I think it fills your needs. |
algebra2
Citizen
Username: Algebra2
Post Number: 1161
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:37 pm: | |
I am a big fan of Jocelyn's -- they're BYOB and I consider their fare fine dining. Jacket and tie minimum -- what, there's a tux requirement where Brett likes to dine? |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1764
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 11:07 pm: | |
Brett,
The fact stated was, "I have heard that service is incredibly slow." The fact was followed by a period (.) , and then followed by their question to confirm the rumor they heard, and were now also spreading.
If anyone were truly interested in how the service was they wouldn't be looking to confirm and/or spread another rumor. The more appropriate question would have simply been, how was the service?
As for fine dining, I'll concede that in the context you presented (1-8) you're right. Those things aside, number 9 would be to actually receive as you say, a meal spectacular.
Unfortunately, getting a spectacular meal is not always synonymous with a restaurant offering fine dining. However, at Yanick's, I have been fortunate enough to have received just what I'm looking for the most, spectacular meals.
As for The South Orange Grill and the Gaslight, let me say this about that…I don’t ever remember reading a third party criticism about either one. If I ever do, you can rest assure I will jump to their defense.
Listen, I’m not interested in being, as you say, a martyr of local businesses. But these are tough times, and our local businesses throughout the community are having a difficult time. I believe we all need to support them as best we can. The comments in “this thread” are mostly positive, so why spread doubt about Yanick’s unless it is truly a constructive criticism they can reply to? (Please note Bunny’s reply recently to criticism. It was a real class act!)
Just for the record, I truthfully don’t believe you or J&J really mean any harm. But, it’s still those kinds of comments on the board that can hurt a local business unnecessarily. On the other hand, any local merchant that doesn’t pay attention to the comments on MOL is clearly making a mistake.
Meanwhile, I think this conversation has been productive. Listen, until I’m sure that a merchant is aware of the comments and can defend themselves, like it or not, I guess you all will just have to put up with me!  |
CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 958
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 5:09 am: | |
I can remember way back when this board was civil. I'm not saying who's to blame, but we rarely had friction. Just my 2 cents. Continue. |
Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 75
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:24 am: | |
Ryland Inn looks good, one of the reviews said the chef grows some of his own herbs on the grounds.
FYI I don't ware a tux to dinner, but I would for some baby lamb chops.
I ate at the South Orange Grille last night Ahi Tuna with Sesame soy sauce. It was very good. I look forward to their full menu, right now it’s still limited. I was in jeans and a tee shirt. |
Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 76
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:26 am: | |
ware = wear (stupid spell checker)
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Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 5036
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 10:44 am: | |
When was this board civil? Oh yeah, back when I had to ban Cfa for personal attacks. 
there were no "good old days"... even on MOL |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1768
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:09 am: | |
Oh, I remember it well, now those were the good old days... |
shh
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 619
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 11:15 am: | |
Brett, Ryland Inn is amazing. A total experience. Well, at least it was when I was there about 7 years ago. I was very pregnant and got the tasting menu (so no wine : ( ). They have a vegetarian one and a meat/fish one. I eat fish but no meat, so I asked for a combo vegetarian/fish. I ended up with 8 or so courses of different fish/seafood, one more delectable than the next. At the time, they didn't require everyone at the table to get the tasting menu, so my husband got two courses and was SO envious. Luckily, I shared a bite or two. IMO, it's the kind of meal where you ONLY really talk about the food, so don't even bother going with anyone you want to catch up with! |
TK South Orange
Citizen
Username: Tk_south_orange
Post Number: 32
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 1:17 pm: | |
Hi. Haven't been able to post in here - but have been reading. I have to tell you there was a wait...but well worth it. I had a salad and iced tea (which was wonderful) and they told me the appetizer wouldn't be ready for a while (it was ribs - have you ever made ribs to order? takes a while) we didn't care. We were enjoying our salads without having to rush.
when the entree's came it was well worth the wait. fresh and fabulous.
And as far as dress code - we decided to try Yanick's on a walk back from blockbuster - both in jeans and sneakers and tee shirts and we were treated just as respectfully and nicely as the other very well dressed patrons. And the wait staff was just too nice! |
ReallyTrying
Citizen
Username: Reallytrying
Post Number: 127
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 1:56 pm: | |
I have to add: the Ryland Inn really IS amazing. Fantastic foods, great wines, perfect service. A nice, slow meal you never forget. Very expensive, though. |
CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 959
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 8:50 pm: | |
Dave,
At least I've learned my lesson. Someone should learn the same lessons.
Art,
The winking smiley face doesn't make up for the fact that your comment was nothing but a smart ass remark. Nuf said. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1775
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 6:40 am: | |
"I can remember way back when this board was civil. I'm not saying who's to blame, but we rarely had friction. Just my 2 cents. Continue."
I can also remember back, not long ago, when we had friction... is that where you're heading again?
Look, if you can't take a joke ()then keep your two cents, and your smart ass remarks to yourself ! Nuf said? |
KATHLEEN WETLI
Citizen
Username: Katmic
Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 1:11 pm: | |
This message is in response to all this arguing over fine dining in south orange. In my opionion any restaurant that serves gourmet food and has an upscale setting is now fine dining. Obviously some people never go out in the city. Not only do very few restaurants require a jacket and tie but when I pay two hundred dollars for dinner for two people I would consider that fine dining.
Second, The ryland Inn is overrated. I can not name one restaurant in the North Jersey Area that I would say is spectacular. Its not just south orange. South Orange has good restaurants for what they are and I patronize all of them because they are all a good value for the food you get except for Arugula. This Town needs a hip gourmet restaurant with some jazz and music to suit the 25 to 60 population who appreciate gourmet food with a classy bar and swanky enviroment. I would love to hear if other people feel there is need for this.
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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1784
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 1:57 pm: | |
"I would love to hear if other people feel there is need for this."
I agree we can "always" use more hip gourmet restaurants with more jazz and music, maybe even some Swing Dancing. But, I think there are some of us who would feel more main stream if you set that age group at, lets say, more around the 35 to 75 age population...
Hey, maybe that younger, (10 year gap group) might do better at a TGIF or Houlihan's, no? 
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Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 80
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 2:29 pm: | |
I wasn’t suggesting a mandatory dress code, I was implying what I, or any diner at that type of restaurant would feel comfortable wearing. I kind of meant that you planed on dinner in a fancy place, not just walked in off the street. Let’s say “Dressed to impress” Obviously the days of the mismatched Jacket and Tie from the coat room of a restaurant are long gone.
And I did comment on the upscale setting. In my “opinion” this place was not upscale. From what I remember I would be hard pressed to spend $200 there. You might want to try the South City Grill http://www.southcitygrill.com it has a lot of the things you talked about.
I also think that papillion is going to try to be that bar when they open in Sept.
Ajc: Don’t discount us 30 year olds. Some of us earn a pretty good living, spend lots of money in the local economy, no kids raising school taxes, don’t care about loud parties at B&Bs (Ha ha ). Don’t worry about votes, I’ll be gone in a year, so you guys can fight TC and BOE. All I need are some nice restaurants and bars to keep me busy.
TGIF! Thems fighten words!
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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1787
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 2:56 pm: | |
"Don’t discount us 30 year olds."
If you're talking about any 30 year olds with lots of disposable income, no kids, real party animals, and guys like you not looking to grow roots in the community, then we're talking about kids who are still wet behind the ears...
BTW, if you're talking about fighten words, then you fly weights need to brush up some more of life’s experiences, and then think long and hard before you get in the ring with any heavy weights!
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Robert Little
Citizen
Username: Boblittle
Post Number: 50
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 3:45 pm: | |
Alas, poor Yanick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. |
KATHLEEN WETLI
Citizen
Username: Katmic
Post Number: 2
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 5:56 pm: | |
Been to south city grill, food is mediocre ambience is nice but who wants to drive to denville. that is exactly my point if I am going to go that far I will go to New york. NO drinking and Driving and I have a larger selection of better restaurants.
I would love to be able to walk to a great place.
Ditto, to the 30yr olds, I don't have kids and am married and would love a cool place to hang out.
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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1792
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 6:48 pm: | |
Welcome Kathleen, I just noticed you're new to the board....
Hey, maybe we need an on-line list of all the cool places in our area by age group?
Dave, Jamie...?
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