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jet
Citizen
Username: Jet
Post Number: 246
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:32 am: |     |
Whats up with that thing ? They don't even work on it anymore. Anyone have any info ? |
Jackie Day
Citizen
Username: Zoesky1
Post Number: 79
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:03 pm: | |
I heard it was going to be out for nine months. Let's see, it was closed off in late May, so that would bring us to another SIX MONTHS of pain-in-the-butt detours. Argggh! |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 3335
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 8:06 am: | |
I heard four or five months. Insane as it sounds, I have gotten use to the inconvenience and no longer think about it.
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jfw
Citizen
Username: Jfw
Post Number: 31
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 6:05 pm: | |
i talked to the guy who runs the liquor store in millburn mall and he said they hadn't touched it since around july 4th. apparently they took down the old bridge and then found out that some of their engineering assumptions about the earth under the bridge were wrong, so a new study had to be done. i guess that's better than building a new bridge and having it fall down, but i don't
get the impression that their techniques are the model of efficiency.
the other thing i heard was that five different governments were involved due to the location of the bridge (millburn twp, union twp, essex county, union county, and the state). based on that alone, our expectations should have been low from the beginning. |
cody
Citizen
Username: Cody
Post Number: 359
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 6:18 pm: | |
Nothing like having traffic on Valley Street backed up from Oakland Road to Millburn Ave. daily - good thing it's not an all-day-long situation. |
Nlanzieri
Citizen
Username: Nlanzieri
Post Number: 162
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:22 pm: | |
The lady in the bakery told me they said it would take another year because of some other problems discovered when they took the bridge up. |
mfpark
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 19
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 8:10 am: | |
I hear that businesses in Millburn Mall are down 50% from the same time last year, and that there are no plans for the County or other governments to help mitigate the losses. Access has been maintained to the shopping center, albeit in a very damaged fashion, so the leases remain in effect and there is no recourse to business interruption insurance (if they even have it). A very bad situation all around, which has been exacerbated by the engineering problem. People who used to shop in these stores on an impulse basis when driving by on Vauxhall Road need to remember them now, or else there won't be a bakery, pizza restaurant, deli, etc. when Vauxhall Road reopens. |
gozerbrown
Citizen
Username: Gozerbrown
Post Number: 188
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 9:33 am: | |
I know this is a bit of a drift, but we all know that if you or I missed some crucial target at our jobs, we would be out of there. This is just a general gripe about public works/government projects in general. They're hardly ever done in a reasonable amount of time. I'd love to know more about their "assumptions about the earth". Is Maplewood some kind of geological oddity or something?
Sorry for the rant. Continue talking about bridge... |
Jackie Day
Citizen
Username: Zoesky1
Post Number: 83
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 9:51 am: | |
I agree with Gozer. It's just ridiculous that they get away with leaving the project just sitting there for months while local businesses suffer and local residents have to put up with heavy traffic. Yes, I have gotten used to the detour (I live off Ridgewood Rd, so I would otherwise always take Vauxhall over to get over to Home Depot or get on 78, etc), but why should I have to? It's been several months now. You'd think that's enough time to repair or replace the bridge and MOVE ON. If this really takes a year, that's insane. Too bad we can't recall local officials the way Californians plan to recall their governor. |
jem
Citizen
Username: Jem
Post Number: 769
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 9:54 am: | |
What local officials would you recall? Millburn's and Union's? The project isn't even in Maplewood. |
Jackie Day
Citizen
Username: Zoesky1
Post Number: 84
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:30 am: | |
I'm just kidding, jem. |
lseltzer
Citizen
Username: Lseltzer
Post Number: 1682
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 7:14 am: | |
Vauxhall Road construction delays irk merchants
Friday, August 29, 2003
BY JASON JETT
Star-Ledger Staff
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"There's an engineering problem," said Union County Assistant Engineer Tim Mettlen. "We're doing a slight redesign that will delay the project a month and a half. Then we'll be ready to go forward."
Mettlen said there are no workers or equipment at the site because further work cannot be done until the riverbed is restabilized, or redefined, to serve as a foundation for a bridge.
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Click here for the complete story... |
OK, it's Tom Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 426
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 4:09 pm: | |
I don't care much about the effect on traffic, but I really sympathize with the merchants. Do they have any legal recourse against the governments involved?
Tom Reingold
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mfpark
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 20
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 4:21 pm: | |
See my post above--it is likely that as far as they are concerned, access remains available to the Mall. |
Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 1892
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 7:44 pm: | |
Remember what happened when Maplewood redid one of our bridges a few years ago? Engineering problems were identified which significantly delayed the reopening of the bridge.
Millburn and Union are not alone in having this type of problem. Lets hope the businesses at the Millburn Mall can survive the delay. |
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