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E&K
Citizen
Username: Ashmilby
Post Number: 62
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 5:13 pm: |     |
I take NJ Transit at South Orange 2 or 3 days a week. Since we aren't close to the station, I drive and park my car on the street. It cuts out a long walk for me, and, since I take the 9:49am train, purchasing a parking permit would be useless to me (spots all taken by then).
The other day we found a handwritten note on our car: "No all day parking! Next time = ticket!"
I'm far enough away from the shopping area that there are no "no parking" or "2 hour only" parking signs at all on that block. Is this just a fake threat by grumpy neighbors, or is there some obscure rule about "all day" street parking in South Orange that I don't know about??
BTW...we are continuing to park on this block.
K |
OK, it's Tom Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 411
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 5:46 pm: | |
That's curious. As far as I know, you are doing nothing illegal. Where do you park, in front of someone's house? Try moving over a block or so, but in any case, I suggest continuing what you're doing. Keep us posted!
Tom Reingold
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Jackie Day
Citizen
Username: Zoesky1
Post Number: 85
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 6:23 pm: | |
I live Maplewood, not SO, but to me it sounds like grumpy neighbors. I doubt a cop would leave a handwritten note, though I guess one might. If there are no signs, clearly you can park. It sounds like some resident on that street just has an issue with a car being parked all day in front of his/her house. I remember living on a street here in town (I have a different house now) that was an 8-minute walk from the train but didn't have any signs restricting parking. Sure enough, someone did choose to park every day in front of my house all day. It was a jalopy-type car. At first, I was a bit annoyed, but I got used to it, and in the end I kind of liked the old jalopy. Anyway, back to your point, why don't you call the SO police and ask them? |
jgberkeley
Supporter
Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3102
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 7:17 pm: | |
I see this as a grumpy neighbor. Funny how some folks feel as if they own the street in front of their house. Re-check the signs, call the township.
If all else fails private line me and you can park in front of my house, 5 minute walk to the train station.j |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 88
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 7:45 pm: | |
Definitely a grumpy neighbor. I doubt a police officer is going to leave a note for you not to park there. |
Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 1885
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 8:15 pm: | |
The police could be trying to do you a favor by leaving you a warning or it could be a "grumpy neighbor". Safest thing is to take a few minutes and call the SO police or the SO Parking Authority (which ever has jurisdiction)so that you can reconfirm your suspicions about the parking regulations where you have been leaving your car. If it turns out that all day parking is not permited on that street or any other street which is convenient to you, you might want to take George up on his offer. |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 93
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:32 pm: | |
AJC.
Waiting for you to weigh in on this PARKING issue.
I know it is a SO issue, but you are the Essex expert on unfair parking.} |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1819
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 1:19 am: | |
I think by now most regulars should pretty much know how I feel about street parking....
I do have a few solutions for parking in all different areas of town, but business and more congested areas represents a much greater challenge.
My problem tonight is I'm just too tired to get into it... Maybe this weekend, but thanks anyway for asking me my opinion... Art  |
swato
Citizen
Username: Swato
Post Number: 102
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 8:18 am: | |
Look for the signs, when we lived on Fairview Ave. the sign states 2 hour max for parking. If you live on the block and park in front of your house you should get a resident sticker to avoid getting a ticket. On Fairview Ave. workers from Irvington Ave. stores and students from SHU parked in front of our house all the time all day and they would get ticketed. If someone put a note on your car the next thing may be a ticket.
P.S. the easy way to avoid a ticket is to park in front of a different house as to not tick off the grumpy ones.
 |
hello
Citizen
Username: Hello
Post Number: 100
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 8:29 am: | |
i'd like to chime in here i think fully all street parling should be by permit. have two concentric zones- one near the train station, and one more distant. continue to enforce the no overnight parking. have the costs be like $40/month near the train and $15/month distant. have $5/week permits available at town hall for contractors and the like. i don;t understand why maplewood or south orange decline to raise money in parking fees to offset property tax burdens- pay-as-you-go is almost always preferrable to blind taxation, especially when free-riding is factored in. we discussed this in another thread, but maplewood permits a ton of free parking within 4 short blocks of the train station. |
JJC
Citizen
Username: Mercury
Post Number: 90
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 9:10 am: | |
Why does parking cause such an uproar? Get a life guys! The streets belong to the 'public' and other than a 24 hour parking rule (outside of the metered areas) no other regulations should be necesary. Do you really believe that the fees from parking permits are going to raise enough money to offset the enforcement and processing costs as well as the ill will it will create? If money needs to be raised, there must be a better way. The problem with the property tax here is not that there are not enough little fees here and there - it is that NJ/County/Towns depend too heavily on this to fund just about everything. |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 91
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 9:40 am: | |
JJC-- You obviously do not live in an area that is affected by parking. Imagine every day trying to back out of your driveway, and not being able to, because there are so many cars parked up and down the street. It is not about getting a life, it is about the quality of life. |
hello
Citizen
Username: Hello
Post Number: 104
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:02 am: | |
the people who actually pay for the streets have a priority claim to them over those who don't. residents' only parking rules are perfectly constitutional and moral. i accept i must permit people to egress my property on a sidewalk i must pay for and i must permit people to egress the street in front of my house my *local* taxes pay for. but move your butt on down the sidewalk and on down the street, or propose some form of compensation to me and i'll listen. |
JJC
Citizen
Username: Mercury
Post Number: 91
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 10:43 am: | |
Are you joking? For some reason my quality of life is not so closley attached to street parking. Your quality of life suffers because you cannot back out of your driveway? OK. Have you tried to do anything about it? I chose not to live in an area with existing parking problems. You might want to take some responsibility for your choice - and either work with your neighbors and the town to come to a solution or make a solution of your own (move?). Beyond that, we all pay taxes where we work (NY State-what do I get for that?) and live and none of us "own" any rights to the streets or sidewalks adjacent to our homes - we do have some responsiblilites. As far as a moral question - try to keep things in perspective and be nice to your neighbors (where ever they reside). |
1-2many
Citizen
Username: Wbg69
Post Number: 273
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:02 am: | |
only SOMA residents should get to park for free on the streets within walking distance to the stations, e.g., via a permit. same with our station parking.
I don't like the idea of other towns' residents cruising over to MW and inconveniencing our residents, to take advantage of our great commute. If you want to do that, buy a house here and pay some taxes. |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 92
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:06 am: | |
JJC-- No I am not joking. I am not affected by the parking. We chose not to live in an area that had this problem. I am saying you need to empathize a little. To belittle someone because it bothers them is just rude. Yes we all pay taxes, but some streets are zoned for parking while others are not. If you are living in an area that is not zoned for parking all day, of course you are going to be grumpy. ( |
Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 1886
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 11:21 am: | |
Maplewood has some pretty long streets. Parking within four blocks of the train station can put you close to a mile away and the hills on either side of the train station make for a pretty steep climb. That is one of the reasons why the jitney has become so popular. If more commuters rode the jitney, or walked, parking by the station would be less of a problem.
I have no problem with out of towners parking near the station on weekdays. It is just possible that they might want to run the occassional errand in the near by Village before heading home. If they like our local businesses enough, they might even make a special trip into the Village now and then. This helps our businesses and in the long run might even help to ease our tax burden a bit.
E & K, did you ever find out what the parking regulations were on the street where you have been parking your car? |
JJC
Citizen
Username: Mercury
Post Number: 92
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:41 pm: | |
I didn't mean to make you feel small. All I am saying is that doing something constructive (and reasonable) about this would be a better way to tackle the problem. No one has to be grumpy - that is a choice too. |
OK, it's Tom Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 424
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 1:47 pm: | |
redY67, I think you are addressing a different problem than the one E&K spoke of. He (or she) is not blocking anyone's driveway, or at least I assume so. If people use public parking courteously, what is objectionable about doing that?
Tom Reingold
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jfburch
Citizen
Username: Jfburch
Post Number: 715
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 1:52 pm: | |
Isn't blocking a driveway a towable offense regardless of street parking rules?
I forget what the rule has been, but parking too close to a driveway, on either side isn't just rude and it certainly ought to be enforceable.
Active ticketing/towing/public education ought to fix that without introducing lots of other restrictions. |
lseltzer
Citizen
Username: Lseltzer
Post Number: 1683
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 2:06 pm: | |
red does have a point that if cars are parked even legally around your driveway it can make for a hazardous backing-out experience. Imagine two Lincoln Navigators legally parked around your driveway and you try to back out in your Corolla. Fat chance. I feel sorry for the folks who live on the east side of Maplewood Ave. |
Jason & John
Citizen
Username: Johnh91011
Post Number: 60
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 2:07 pm: | |
Hope you kept the note. |
E&K
Citizen
Username: Ashmilby
Post Number: 63
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 6:14 pm: | |
To all,
Yes, we kept the note. No, we weren't blocking any driveways. Our car is new. And we are residents of Maplewood.
Thanks to your suggestions I have asked the SO Parking Authority for guidance via email and will let you all know their reply. But maybe we should take JGBerkeley up on his offer instead!
Peace,
K&E |
1-2many
Citizen
Username: Wbg69
Post Number: 278
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 7:43 pm: | |
leave some brownies on the hood of your car with a note saying that they are a peace offering. |
extuscan
Citizen
Username: Extuscan
Post Number: 197
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 11:21 pm: | |
The solution to Maplewood's parking problem would be to build an elevated train station and parking tower in the CHS student lot. Might solve Columbia's parking problem too. Would open up tons of spaces in Maplewood Center and increase business (at King's at least). NJ Transit was already going to spend a load of cash on a parking tower where Nelson's is anyway weren't they? Turn the old train station into model railroad museum or something, who cares. This stuff is never cheap, but hey, get someone else to pay for it.
-John |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 93
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 8:42 pm: | |
Tom-- I didn't mean actually parking in front of someone's driveway. Just as an example, our neighbors are having work done on their house. There were three cars parked on either side of my driveway. Then the neighbors across the street had cars parked in front of their house. It was next to impossible for me to back out of my driveway, because the angle of all the cars. That can be frustrating. It is no big deal if a couple of people are parking, but it is like the old addage, "someone gets his foot in the door and kicks it wide open" If one person starts to park where there is no all day parking, there is the possibility that more people will. That was the point I was trying to make. |
duncanrogers
Citizen
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 705
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 9:04 pm: | |
Hey JJC
"No one has to be grumpy - that is a choice too."
Might also read
"No one has to be condescending - that is a choice too"
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paddy
Citizen
Username: Paddy
Post Number: 128
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 10:02 pm: | |
My wife got the same notice and it's not grumpy neighbors (if it is, it's pretty creative). It actually looks like a ticket, but it states that it's a warning and that parking on this block all day breeches some code. I'd love to know too. |
E&K
Citizen
Username: Ashmilby
Post Number: 65
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 11:13 am: | |
Parking update:
The street in question, Village Road, does not have restricted parking, except on Sundays (it's near Our Lady of Sorrows). So, there are no restrictions, and we haven't received anymore notes. Thanks, EM, for getting this info for us.
I'm sure this wasn't an official note from the police. There was no code cited, and it was in felt-tip pen on white paper.
E&K |
Mrbanzai
Citizen
Username: Mrbanzai
Post Number: 2
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 11:16 am: | |
HOW long until E&K gets a flat tire?
PLACE BETS NOW! |
mooewe
Citizen
Username: Mooewe
Post Number: 160
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 3:39 pm: | |
For all those ticked off at people parking on their street, particularly in front of their house:
http://www.prankplace.com/parking.htm |
hello
Citizen
Username: Hello
Post Number: 114
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 4:07 pm: | |
that is freaking hilarious- i ordered a few for myself! |
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