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Flt
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Username: Flt

Post Number: 84
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 11:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was no Trooper Mitchell Brown. Urban legend:

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/police.htm
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tdurkin307
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Username: Tdurkin307

Post Number: 12
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess you still don't get it. Urban Legend or not, it's irrelevant. It's all so true. I've experienced it for years.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey

Post Number: 16
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 11:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd "get it" a lot better if you'd write about your true feelings instead of posting recycled treacle.

Personally, I turn off immediately when I sense that I'm being had. And this passage was so obviously untrue that I couldn't take it seriously.
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 1924
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 9:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Recycled treacle"? Maybe that letter sums it up as to how Mr. Durkin feels, and he is so busy doing his job, for us, he doesn't have time to write the same exact thing. Unbelievable.
There's nothing like spending your whole life in a BAR!
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey

Post Number: 17
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 10:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

but why post it without letting on that it's a fake?

sorry, but if you've got enough time to retype it, or even cut and paste it, you've got enough time to write something heartfelt.

If Mr. or Ms. Durkin is indeed a police officer, I apologize. and I also hope that he or she doesn't really believe that those are the opinions of a majority of citizens.
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James O' reilly
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Username: Highlander

Post Number: 45
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tdurkin307, well said.

Please don't let a few mis-informed posters on this board ruin your day...be aware the MAJORITY of citizens appreciate the duties M.P.D. perform to the best of their abilities on a daily basis,
and wish you could give a bloody nose to some of these yuppie bozos!!!
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 1711
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If a police officer is responding to an emergency, what is the policy with regard to the use of sirens and lights and vehicle speed?
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Flt
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Username: Flt

Post Number: 85
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Folks, any real cop would have known it was a fake story. A real cop would have spoken from the heart about all the very real stories of bravery that exist.
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aquaman
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Username: Aquaman

Post Number: 124
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 11:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Flt,

Tdurkin is a real cop. Any real MOL poster would have known that. A real MOL poster would have posted a more intelligent statement.



>> We crime-fighters must stick together.

> Aquaman, most people probably do not know the names of the police in town.

>> Why not?
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tdurkin307
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Username: Tdurkin307

Post Number: 13
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow! Tough room. I received the article in an e-mail about a month ago. I thought it was an interesting read and thought I'd pass it along. It happens to be exactly the way I felt as a Maplewood Police Officer for the past 7 years. I honestly didn't know it was an urban legend, so I guess I'm not a real cop according to Flt. I have since resigned in July and I am now with the Union County Prosecutor's Office (detective/investigator) out of Elizabeth.

tjohn, I'll explain protocol for certain situations later tonight when I have the time.

Thanks,
Tim
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree

Post Number: 1706
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 3:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves for criticizing Tim. If he found something that expresses how he feels, who are you to tell him it's irrelevent. Or better yet, defame how he spends his time. He didn't try to take credit for someone else's writing; he cited the source as he understood it.

It's this gleeful "aha"-ism that some posters love to express when they ferret out an opportunity to critize another poster that keeps me from being as active in this community as I once was.

Although, my hats are off to all of you. I never realized that there were so many people out there who've never purchased a commercial greeting card because they would never use cheap prose to wish happy birthday, merry christmas or congratulations to the loved one in their lives. I'm glad you are all so creative and thoughtful.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey

Post Number: 19
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 3:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tim, I apologize. I realize now you were being honest and not trying to put anything over on anyone.

Looks like the only one who got fooled was me.
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copihue
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Username: Vperalta

Post Number: 45
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I received pictures of a beautiful little girl in my e-mail box with a message saying that the girl was missing and that I should send it to everyone I knew to help to locate her. I wanted to help, so I did just as I was asked. A few days letter I received a response to my e-mail from a friend who said that it was a fake. I called him to ask him how he knew, and he told me that there is a website with a list of all these fake messages floating about the internet and that my message was there. Does anyone knowthe address of this website? My friend said he was too busy to look it up for me. I couldn't find it on google.
About two months ago I forwarded another message to my e-mail contacts about having one's name removed from a list which would be sold with your personal information on it. You had to call a number and give all sorts of information to have your name removed from the list. I don't have the message with me, so I am not being as accurate as I would like. One of my e-mail contacts wrote me back: "this is a fake." I had given my social security number, address, name, etc. and asked all my friends to do the same. I was horrified. A few days later I received confirmation through the mail that it was done, so I think it was legitimate. I haven't had any weird charges on any of my accounts.
After these two experiences I am very suspicious of these chain letters on the Internet.
I thought I was gullible, but even police officers get stung too, of course, you probably wouldn't have given them your social security number...
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mooewe
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Username: Mooewe

Post Number: 159
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is the most widely known reference for Urban Legends: http://www.snopes.com

Do a search for "missing children", and lots of items come up.
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DrFalomar
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Username: Drfalomar

Post Number: 13
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 10:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is the full record of police activity, from which the newspapers presumably cherrypick items for their police blotters, available to the public?
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xavier67
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Username: Xavier67

Post Number: 245
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 1:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From what I understand, News-Record does not "cherrypick" incidents for the police blotter. If you read the fine print, it says the police blotter was "compiled" by the police depts.

Several months ago, I had a half of dozen Maplewood and SO patrol units block in a car in front of my house. They arrested 2 men, and pulled a 9mm (at least that's what it looked like from a distance) from their car.

About a month ago, NYTimes published a picture of a crumbled up car next to a tree on Prospect St, with a caption that said that this was a result of a hi-speed chase of an armed robber.

For reasons I can't fathom, neither of these incidents appeared on the News-Records police blotter.

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hello
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Username: Hello

Post Number: 113
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 2:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can we get back to the fact the crime rate in millburn is higher than in maplewood? is it factual this is due to shoplifing at the mall, or is this more talk radio white republican spin?
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 1937
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 2:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are a lot of car thefts in Millburn, especially Short Hills Mall.
There's nothing like spending your whole life in a BAR!
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OK, it's Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 442
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 2:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know, but that won't stop me from responding, will it? :-)

Yes, that's what they say: that crime at the mall accounts for the high crime statistics.

But really, your question might boil down to, should I worry for my safety in my home, my neighborhood, my car? Well, I usually don't, but then, why listen to me? Still, there's not much worth losing sleep over. There's crime everywhere, and the statistics for Maplewood and Millburn look pretty good. Looking at statistics has limited value, though. I'm not saying we should be complacent. I do hope we can manage to get the police department whatever they're asking for, so they can continue to do their jobs. They deserve it, and so do we.

What *are* they asking for these days? People here have made it clear that they are not happy, but I have not read a whole lot about what they are requesting.

Tom Reingold


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mgl
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Username: Mgl

Post Number: 61
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scollins,
You are exactly right. The newspaper coverage of local crime is extremely thin. I get more info from this board than than from the News Record.

After being in Maplewood for a handful of years it seems to me that I keep hearing about more serious crimes than in the past -- some not even mentioned in the paper.

MGL
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DrFalomar
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Username: Drfalomar

Post Number: 14
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 11:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know that a large portion of newspaper articles are culled from press releases, but when it comes to the police blotter, that's a pretty sketchy form of journalism, letting the cops be in charge of their own coverage. I can't help but wonder what is not reported, and why certain crimes are reported. Do any of the people in blue who post here know? And could they answer my original question: are the police logs public records, and, if so, could a person go down to the police station and copy them (at his own expense, or course)?
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 2050
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 - 11:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Police records are public, especially with respect to arrests.

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