| Author | Message | ||
     Truthseeker |
Just wondering what the country club's property taxes are/will be? Is the valuation based on worthless flood plain or business potential? As a town-owed parking lot it should be a profit center judging from the number of parking complaints posted here. | ||
| Gerardryan |
Town owned == no taxes, so.... | ||
| Bobk |
Town owned? This is a private club which I believe is run on a for profit basis. How is this property tax exempt? | ||
| Gerardryan |
It's not, Bobk, I think you misunderstood my quick reply to truthseeker's joke about turning it into a town owned parking low. My reply should have been a full sentence: "If the country club were to be turned into a town-owned parking lot, then it would be taken off the tax rolls". The country club is not tax exempt. | ||
| Jrf |
Gerry, What was the assessment of the golf course? | ||
| Jrf |
Gerry, The more I think about this, the more I wonder if the Country Club will pick up more of the tax burden in this town. Based on the values of properties and homes within "walking distance" to the town and train, I would imagine that the burden placed on the golf course should go up with the same percentages as the homes on the west side of Valley. You could certainly build a lot of homes on the golf course that would pay well over 15K a year in property taxes. On a percentage basis, how much did the reassessment of the country club go up? Better yet, what is the amount the country club will pay the town based on the percentage we've all been calculating on? Jrf | ||
| Bobk |
Dah!!! That is what I get for posting at 2:30am. But I am also curious about the assesment. Especially since people are being charged extra for a "Golf" view, as opposed to a "Gulf", of which there aren't any here in Maplewood. | ||
| Gerardryan |
Jrf, Bobk: Don't have the answer at hand, will have to look the numbers up for you. Jerry | ||
| Melidere |
jrf, as i think i mentioned in another thread, my understanding is that most of the property owned by the country club is on a 'flood' plain and hence it is illegal to build anything on it. That information came to light when pierson's was trying to figure out how to develop their property. They had the same problem. | ||
| Truthseeker |
A parking lot, like cemetaries, trailer parks and car washes, is one of the most profitable of land uses. The PATH lot at Newark Airport is one of that agency's top net income producers - if not the top (ever wondered why NJ Transit can't run a train there?) The point here is, if the golf course valuation is low because of the flood plain designtion, then condemnation costs should be equally low. Why not put Maplewood in a profitable activity - like PATH. Fund land acquisition and construction with IRBs. Of course bond holders for the project might insist on a "lockbox" system for the debt service and maintenance funds - something the Pool Committee should have thought of. | ||
| Melidere |
well, with you spearheading the committee...i'm sure there will be no such oversights. i'm looking forward to the additional parking already. | ||
| Dytunck |
Judging by the water damage in my basement, I would like to rezone my home as being in a "flooded plain". | ||
| Winkydink |
Gee one would think Mr. Ryan would know about the largest property in town, wouldn't you now. The Maplewood COuntry Club is about 4 FOUR times larger than Memorial park. Also are you all aware that PSEG and NJtransit pay NO taxes? Also are you all aware that our town council voted to continue rent control? What are these people thinking about? | ||
| Lseltzer |
Winkydink: Do you really think it makes sense that an organization that exists only because of state subsidies should be paying property taxes? I doubt the township of Maplewood pays property taxes on Town Hall or Memorial Park. Does that make sense? | ||
| Fringe |
Until 1979 the PSE&G bus garage was the largest tax paying commercial entity in Maplewood. In that year the company got out of the bus business, and it was taken over by a new state agency - NJ Transit. That entity later took over the Conrail commuter rail operations as well. Since 1979 NJ Transit has paid Maplewood a fraction of what it would have paid in property taxes as a fee called "Payment in lieu of taxes." The current TC did try to get this raised a few years ago. Over 700 personnel work out of the bus garage - now if we could tax those incomes or that payroll ... JTL | ||
| Tom |
There's been a petition circulating around my neighborhood regarding the bus garage. Right now, Boyden Ave. is used by NJT as a primary route to get many of its busses back and forth between the garage and their routes. During morning and afternoon rush hours, and well into the late evening, dozens and dozens of these buses go rumbling past my house, even though there aren't any bus stops on the street. The resulting noise, grime, traffic, litter, road-wear and safety issues have gotten to be quite enough. The TC is being petitioned to force NJT to run buses only on those streets on which their routes run. Speaking of property values, this is a major depressant to the whole street between Irvington and Springfield Aves. My house was on the market a few years ago, and the buyer dropped out after a visit with their home inspector on a rainy day. I'm convinced it was because of the noise. When I bought the house, the seller had the storms and windows shut tight, saying it was because "he didn't like looking through screens." Of course now I know better! How incessant is the bus traffic? My son's first word was "bus." Anyway, Jerry and Vic, when this petition hits your desk please give it careful thought. We've been bearing the brunt long enough. | ||
| Hobsonschoice |
I notice the PSEG Employees use the Maplewood Pool to park outside of the summer months. Do the individuals and/or PSEG pay a fee to park in the pool parking lot? And, who gets the money, Maplewood or the Pool? If they don't pay, they should be made to pay. Town is able to charge a fee to park by the Train Station, why not the pool parking lot? | ||
| Nakaille |
Having lived in an apt on Scotland Rd in Orange before we bought our house I can tell you that when I realized Boyden carried a lot of bus traffic, I immediately vetoed any house on the entire stretch of Boyden, despite the fact there were several sweet homes with decent yards there. The sound and smells of buses all day and night (our back porch faced Scotland at a bus stop -the town line between Orange and S. Orange) were so noxious that it was clear to me: Never again. Bacata | ||
| Mck |
Tom: I'd like more info on the petition. I want to sign! please e-mail me at mck@grapevine2.com. Thanks. | ||
| Tom |
I wish I could tell you more. A couple of very nice ladies showed up on my porch one day asking for my signature, and I gave it to them. If I see them around, I'll get more info. Thanks! |
