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Spry
Citizen
Username: Spry
Post Number: 23
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 1:54 pm: |     |
Apologies for starting yet another boiler thread, but in reading all of the other, boiler-related threads, I find that my question is still not answered. Our 25 or 30 year old boiler (which we inherited, when we bought our house three years ago) is finally beyond repair, and must be replaced. After living in Maplewood three years, we know that Weltman is out of our price range. My husband has narrowed our search down to Gateway or PSEG. Gateway has quoted a price about a grand less, but despite the positive references on MOL about its servicing of existing boilers, I am not convinced it is the better of the two companies for new boilers. Thanks to one and all who can weigh in on this very expensive decision! |
jfburch
Citizen
Username: Jfburch
Post Number: 1001
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 2:13 pm: | |
I can't comment on those two options, but I highly recommend Korn Plumbing of West Orange.
What range are your quotes in? |
Spry
Citizen
Username: Spry
Post Number: 24
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 2:22 pm: | |
Thank you for a quick response! I was just (privately) informed that the owner of Gateway (a very nice person, by all reports) posts often on MOL ... but, at any rate, the range is between 5,000 and 7,000 (with Gateway on the lower end). PSEG would allow us to spread our payments with no interest in our monthly bill, and mentioned, as a selling point, that "only its own employees" would do the installation. By the way, two years ago, Weltman was estimating between 12,000 and 15,000! |
jgberkeley
Supporter
Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3221
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 2:25 pm: | |
Avoid PSG&E.
One of our posters had a boiler replacement two years ago and it was not install correctly and could not pass the inspection. After a lot of work they got it past inspection, however, it bangs and clangs.
You need a couple of bids, I have, and still recommend Ken Secor at 732 388-1794. |
jfburch
Citizen
Username: Jfburch
Post Number: 1002
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 2:48 pm: | |
FWIW: It depends a bit on the type and size of boiler, but Korn came in comparable (and a bit under) to your low estimate about 2 years ago and my estimates were in a similar range.
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marken
Citizen
Username: Marken
Post Number: 54
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 6:20 pm: | |
We had a similar situation --- just replaced our boiler (gas fired, steam heat). We had estimates from Korn, Fischetti, PSEG, Gateway, CT Williams, and others. From everything I've read and heard the BRAND of boiler matters very little. INSTALLATION is the most important factor. And for me, service and responsiveness post-install are quite important.
Three local guys Gateway, Korn, & Trumpore have been the most responsive all along the way. So I recommend that you select one of them (which I did) for your new boiler.
Good luck.
PS: While PSEG's payment plan is tempting, it is doubtful that you will replace your boiler again in that home. For me, it wasn't worth the "savings" |
tourne
Citizen
Username: Tourne
Post Number: 203
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 8:33 pm: | |
Check out www.njcleanenergy.com for rebates on Energy Star rated boilers, etc. Whatever you do--get a high energy efficiency rated boiler. It will save you in the not-so-long run! |
Master Plvmber
Citizen
Username: Master_plvmber
Post Number: 107
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 9:05 pm: | |
Unfortunately, steam boilers max out at around 83.5% efficiency.
Master_Plvmber
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peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 296
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 9:31 pm: | |
I have a gas boiler, rated 210,000 input, 168,000 input capacity -- about 22 years old. Energy efficiency rated at 81%.
If I replace it with a new unit, with and AFUE of about 93% -- does that translate into an energy savings of 12%?
Pete
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tourne
Citizen
Username: Tourne
Post Number: 205
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 - 9:45 pm: | |
See www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=boilers.pr_boilers for the scoop on boiler efficiency. |
Spry
Citizen
Username: Spry
Post Number: 25
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 11:04 am: | |
To everyone who contributed to this thread: thank you all very much! We have decided to go with Gateway ... but, Master Plumber [a/k/a Gateway] were you implying, in your post yesterday, that we most likely won't be eligible for a rebate on an Energy Star rated boiler? (Guess we will ask you this when you begin the work!) |
Master Plvmber
Citizen
Username: Master_plvmber
Post Number: 111
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 6:30 pm: | |
I skimmed through the program guidelines (thanks, tourne) and it says rebates are offered when equipment exceeds something like 93% efficiency. (I can't find it right now) But you'll never get that from a steam boiler.
I went through most major boiler manufacturers literature last night and hadn't found any steam boilers that carried the energy star rating.
They just don't work that way. Hydronic (hot water) heating boilers have made incredible advances toward efficiency in recent years, but steam boilers have not. Lower water content and electronic vent dampers are about all the heating industry have to show for advances in that field.
If the program asks for something that I need to provide, please let me know.
It's worth a shot.
...And thank you for chosing Gateway Plumbing and Heating for your boiler installation. I look forward to meeting you. I hope we will alleviate any concerns you had as to who is most qualified for the job.
Master_Plvmber
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E. Mar
Citizen
Username: Maplem
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 11:58 pm: | |
We just replaced our boiler last week -- it cracked after 40 years so I suppose we can't complain. We used Boan & Sons, they were efficient and hard working and our final cost for everything was $4,000. We had heat in 1 1/2 days We've noticed that the new boiler is clearly more energy efficient. In addition, we're joining an oil co-op to get oil at wholesale prices. |
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