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ASH
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Username: Ash

Post Number: 26
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello--We need to have covers made for our old-style metal radiators for childproofing purposes--anyone know of anyone who will make some for a reasonable price?
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3237
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Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sure,

Metal style for as little as $45 and up to $125?

Or really cool wood ones that are great additons to the room? Depends on size and style,this one was $275.

rad cover
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ASH
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 11:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, this is beautiful, but is unfortunately out of our price range for now. We're probably going to go for the cheaper ones and maybe someday get nice ones like this! Can you buy the metal ones premade? And was this one custom-made or premade?
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Sadreh
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Post Number: 9
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jgberkeley, do you make these covers? Any idea if one could be made to match chestnut?
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C Bataille
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Post Number: 1588
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 1:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think one advantage to the metal covers is that they conduct heat better than the wood ones, meaning they don't trap as much heat "inside the box". But I agree that the wood ones are lovely. Just not in everybody's price range.

Cathy
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3243
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 7:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No I do not make them, I bought them from a company that makes and delivers them.

I know that they come in Oak and Red Oak, if interested you can ask them about the Chestnut.

They are custom made to fit the window and Radiator spaces.

And they are engineered to provided better heat distribution than a naked radiator. They do not trap heat, rather conduct greater air flow around the radiator. Last year I posted the engineering data about them and how they add to the ability to transfer heat into your home.

If you want the number for the metal places I have a few, I'd just have to look it up.
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jem
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 7:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd definitely be interested in the phone number for the metal places, George. You can privateline me or just post it. Thanks.
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viva
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Post Number: 307
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 7:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this was in the MOL classifieds:

Radiator Covers - Matthew - Email
I am a Maplewood resident and have started building and selling custom radiator covers. Please visit my website at www.maplewoodworks.com to see some samples. My prices are very competitive and I am sure you will agree that the quality is furniture grade. 973-313-9746.
Posted at September 11th, 2003 at 08:15pm
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ASH
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Post Number: 33
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks to all--will definitely check out maplewoodworks.
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ASH
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Post Number: 34
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

P.S. Since we're covering the radiators for childproofing purposes, does anyone know if the metal covers conduct enough heat to be dangerous?
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tjohn
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Post Number: 1847
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can most likely teach your children avoid the hot radiators. Brief contact with a hot steam radiator is not going to cause serious burns. The only way a steam radiator will cause serious burns is if you remain in contact with the hot radiator for well over the second or so it should take you to realize it is hot.
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C Bataille
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Post Number: 1589
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The metal covers definitely do NOT get hot enough to cause a burn. They don't make contact with the radiator itself so there is no direct transfer of heat, metal to metal.

Regarding heat burns my older brother lost all the skin on the palm of his hand as a toddler when he placed his hand against a hot stove. I don't know if the surface of the radiator gets as hot as a stove can but it's definitely not something I'd want to leave to chance with little ones around. Of course you want to specifically teach your children not to touch the radiators period. As in "No touch! Hot! Hot! No touch!" (long before the word "no" becomes such an appealing thing to test!)

Cathy
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Mergele
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jgberkely - metal covers starting at $45? Where?! That would beat the heck out of the prices I've seen... I unfortunately inherited some metal covers that someone painted with some sort of textured paint at some point (yes, it blistered and peeled abominably) and have been agonizing over having to strip them because replacements have been out of reach.


"Cats climb because being ruler of all you survey sucks when all you survey is ankles." -- Unknown
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ASH
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Post Number: 37
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 9:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Cathy and tjohn--our little guy is 6.5 months and on the brink of crawling so I want to be as safe as possible. Not sure he is quite trainable yet though I will start working on it!
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tjohn
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only way a steam radiator will cause severe burns is through extended contact. A stove, OTOH, gets hot enough to cause severe burns almost instantly. Temperatures are a bit funny. Although a 400 degree surface is only double 200 degrees (steam radiator max), it will cause severe burns much more quickly.
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algebra2
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

email Matthew:

matthew@maplewoodworks.com

he just made a very nice radiator cover for us -- wood with a tin front for $250. He's right in town and was very nice, easy to deal with and responsive (and quick) he had the job done in just a few days. He was listed in the classified section of MOL.
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algebra2
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Post Number: 1367
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Duh -- I see someone already posted. Anyway ... he did a very nice job.
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NRL
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Post Number: 257
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Algebra,
What size did you have made?
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deborahg
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 3:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We got several at monarch: http://www.monarchrad.com/. These are metal, but definitely do not get too hot (we have them in the kids' rooms). Good quality, fair prices, they cut to size and deliver. Give them a try!
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ASH
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 6:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those look good, too--thank you deborahg!
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3245
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 7:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The $45 starting price for metal covers was in the back section of the this months This Old House Mag.

I left my copy at work.

I'll look.
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LilLB
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schneider Hardware on Main Street in West Orange sells the metal ones. Not sure how much variety they have, but they can order them based on your measurements.
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jgberkeley
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From last months This Old House Mag.

Monarch All Steel Enclosures
Carlstadt, NJ
201 507-5551

Starting from $24.10

Picture not provided.
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blackcat
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 8:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maplewood Awning and Shade on Springfield Avenue is where we got ours last year. Resonable price after shopping around and they made sure we measured properly for fit.
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algebra2
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Post Number: 1373
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 9:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NRL -- the one made for me was 15" x 36" and 25 " high
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frodo
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Post Number: 35
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jgberkeley--
Where did you get your pictured radiator cover?

Vinny
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growler
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Post Number: 265
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do the radiator covers "trap" the heat inside instead of letting it out?
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algebra2
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Post Number: 1376
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 3:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Supposedly -- they vent the heat out the front rather than having heat go up and out the window above the radiator
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jgberkeley
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 5:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

frodo,

I moved my chair and took it with my camera.
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3258
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 5:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

growler,

Alg is correct. Engineered units have very specific clearances and are designed to increase the airflow from your floor, up along the radiator vanes and then out the top. Then, rather than let the air flow directly up across your cold window, they spill the air out toward the front dumping it into the room and causing a rolling air mass to mix the heat.

Basic heat transfer tells us that hot moves to cold. So if you have your warm air venting across a cold window guess where a lot of the heat goes? To the window and tries to heat the great out doors.

By spilling it into the room you get that rolling of the air mass effect and the design tends to cause the air around the window to be isolated, thus becoming somewhat of an insulation zone.

The unit I posted a picture of is an Engineered unit with internal features to support the air movement I just listed.

The metal ones do not (in my opinion) have the engineered features and may be just boxes to keep fingers off and to hide the ugly.

Hope this helps.
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lnaz
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Post Number: 38
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 9:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maplewood Works "Rocks" Matthew made a radiator cover/window seat for us in an arts and crafts style and it looks fabulous..not to mention he's great to work with . I'll put a picture in tommorrow..
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3260
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Frodo,

I'm sorry, I mis-read your question.

The pictured radiator cover was purchased from:

www.woodenradiatorcabinet.com
1-800-817-9110

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