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Sadreh
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Username: Sadreh

Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone have advice on fixing cracks in plaster walls, and can you hang paintings on plaster walls or picture rail only? I don't want to cause more cracks!
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3244
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 7:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes you can hang pictures directly into plaster walls.

As to fixing cracks, I've fixed a few. Some stayed fixed, a couple have opened back up.

The best way is to gouge the crack to give an open space for the wall to move. Keep the gouge dry and apply drywall tape over it, cover and feather out.
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snshirsch
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Post Number: 106
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And for those of us who would like to hire a professional for this job....any recommendations?
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3252
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 9:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Frank Egger
908 256-4624
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wnb
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For very bad situations where plaster is coming off of the lath, you need plaster washers (sometimes called ceiling buttons).

This site has a decent explanation of how they work:

http://www.modernwaylumber.com/plaster/

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Marty Lipp
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Username: Martylipp

Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To repeat Sadreh's question: how do you hang pictures on plaster walls with minimal or no damage? I've heard two completely different stories and am not sure which route to take...
thanks in advance!
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Rick Beley
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Username: Ruck1977

Post Number: 6
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A great tip...before nailing into the wall for your wall mount (for picture frame or mirror, place scotch tape around the place where you will put the whole before hammering. Will keep the plaster semi-intact and reduce cracking.
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shoshannah
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Post Number: 287
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been doing the Scotch Tape trick for years. Works like a charm. Just make an 'X', with the two pieces intersecting exactly at the spot you will insert the nail.
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wnb
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 12:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also you can buy special picture hanging hooks for plaster walls. I forget what they're called, but you can find them at any hardware store probably. The little hardware store in Millburn has them. The nails are blue (masonry nails) and the hook is designed so as to drive the nails in at an angle. These work very well in my experience and I've even used them to hang a shelf. Use the tape trick too with these for extra protection.

Do NOT use expansion type inserts on plaster walls or you will be berry berry sorry.



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JGTierney
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 2:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've had good luck with the tape method and
by using 'Ooks' - it is a brand of hangers. They
come in a blue package.

You can buy them for different weights - they go
in and can be removed smoothly.
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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 867
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe you should hire my wife. She tried her hand at it in August and did a darned good job. She learned from a book or magazine.

Just kidding. I don't think she'd like to do that kind of work for money. She will be available for piano and voice lessons soon, though.

In the meantime, you may want to give the plaster work a crack. Oof! Sorry.

Tom Reingold
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parkah
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Username: Parkah

Post Number: 18
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 1, 2003 - 6:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wnb... Why wouldn't you use expansion type screws? I use the pastic type quite often for very heavy wall hangings without issue. I drill a pilot hole then insert the screw and tighten.

Is there some issue I'm not aware of?
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3269
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 1, 2003 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, that system works by expanding the plastic insert against the sides of the hole in the plaster. The pressure stresses the plaster (cement) and can cause it to chip out.

For plaster the best mount is the nail hooks that go in at about a 45 degree angle, or the devices that go into the wall then butterfly open, thus holding by pressure on the front and the back side of the wall.
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bobk
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Post Number: 3720
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 1, 2003 - 6:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are also anchors made for plastic. Unlike the typical pointed drywall anchors they are cylindrical. We have used them and they work well.
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snshirsch
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Post Number: 112
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, November 3, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've seen suggestions to heat the nails when nailing into plaster. Says it goes through the plaster like butter. Has anyone ever tried this method?
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Sarah Watson
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Username: Wiggie

Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 7:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone recommend a contractor or handyman to replace a plaster ceiling. I believe that it is beyond repair. I need help - fast. thanks.
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3324
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Frank Egger

908-243-0599
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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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Post Number: 1079
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 9:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or Lou Caruso, 973-762-2813.

Or George, 908-436-0315.

Tom Reingold
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