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Melidere
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 12:20 am: |     |
But now that I've figured it out....look out! (grins)
Spring is comin!!! |
Octofoil
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 12:23 am: | |
The Octofoil is a device that dates back to the 15th century when it was customary for each son to have an individual mark of distinction. Under the rules of heraldry there are eight foils or positions. Heraldic rules gave the OCTOFOIL to the ninth son, a device symbolic of his being surrounded by eight brothers.
The 9th Infantry Division insignia is a red and blue Octofoil.
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Melidere
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 12:29 am: | |
Cool.
and there is nothing more beautiful than Maplewood in the Springtime.
nite all. |
Dave
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 8:57 am: | |
uh oh.
secret's out.  |
Mem
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 12:48 pm: | |
Meli - You are soooo right. Springtime is why I stay in the Northeast, and Maplewood is tops. |
Beach
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 1:50 pm: | |
It really makes me wonder why people like Townie are so opposed to having someone in to "review". Now I'm tempted to go in and see what little old me can dig up. Could it be something worse than packing up the Beverly Hillbillies truck and takin' off?? Hmmmmm.... |
Njjoseph
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 2:19 pm: | |
I can tell you, Beach, why I'm opposed to it, and Townie probably has some similar reasons, and more!
The state, which really knows nothing about Maplewood will review our books and will make recommendations about our finances. This will include cost-cutting measures (most significantly), and probably some ways the state feels we could improve on efficiency.
However, not really understanding what makes out town unique, the recommendations will be pretty general, and we could all come up with the same recommendations (we have, already -- just read this board!). But it may not be in the best interest of our town to do so. Remember the recent murder in our town, and the Richmond Ave. folks wanting more police surveillance? Well, they don't have enough police to do it now, so do you think they will if we cut $100K off the police budget? Does this $100K even sound like a lot to you? Well, your portion, on average, is less than $15/year.
Let's not improve the traffic situation on Midland Blvd to save another $100K. Just don't complain that someone hit you at one of the many dangerous intersections as you were trying to cross over Midland.
Let's reduce the number of students per teacher, but how do we do that if we reduce the education budget by $500K? We're already risking losing the music program. Same with the tutoring program! What about the art classes and the theatre productions? Then the newspaper and yearbooks.
When Trenton reviews our books and our taxes stay high, won't we be complaining when the TC doesn't implement those recommendations? Won't we be complaining moreso when they do? |
Euclidean
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 2:26 pm: | |
If Maplewood and S.O. merged, wouldn't we save some money? One police chief, one fire chief, one full-time tax assessor. We are already joined at the most important place - the school district.
We could then have a contest to rename ourselves. MapleOrange or Southwood or MSO or even something creative. |
Nohero
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 2:33 pm: | |
Euclidean - Your suggestion goes in the category of "Back to the Future", since M and SO did used to be one town, the Township of South Orange. The Village of South Orange split from the Township back in [????], and the Township was renamed Maplewood. The single school district is actually a remnant from the time this was a single municipality. |
Euclidean
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 2:41 pm: | |
That's interesting! What is the history of the split? |
Nohero
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 3:02 pm: | |
I'm afraid I don't know all of the history. Maybe it had something to do with a tax reval back then ... |
Octofoil
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 3:38 pm: | |
Njjoseph,
Those are some pretty bizarre assumptions you're making. You, nor anyone else, knows exactly what any consultant is going to tell you. That is, unless you know some thing(s) that the rest of us don't know about the TC and its dealings.
A priori knowledge of what makes M'wood unique is simply not necessary for this type of assignment. In fact, possession of such knowledge or inclinations toward a particular point of view is more often a detriment to objectivity. It is far more desirable to come in fresh with no pre-conceived notions about anything. (And don't go mixing apples and oranges by comparing this type of engagement with the CV type of thing.)
You are correct, there may (emphasize "may") be some risk to the TC. Selective implementation of recommendations may require some explaining. But maybe that's not a bad thing either. Requiring explaining, that is. And of course, on the other hand, if the TC does implement a recommendation and the results are not what the township wants or likes, then the TC can say, "they told us to do it"! |
Yvette
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 5:14 pm: | |
I had heard that the original town split into two because it became to big/overcroweded for one town to handle....I guess for that time period...true, I don't know. |
Jem
| | Posted on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 5:35 pm: | |
I think it had more to do with services not being provided, specifically having something to do with the gas lights. I had once thought that Maplewood had foolishly removed its gas lights, but it turns out, at least as far as I remember being told, that there never were gas lights in Maplewood. Can anyone confirm this? |
Soda
| | Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 10:57 am: | |
South Orange town fathers allegedly had gas lamps intalled as a protest of Thomas Edison's decision to locate his now-famous labs in WEST Orange rather than S.O.. Evidently, Maplewood was not in the running... |
Mtierney
| | Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2001 - 11:50 am: | |
Back in the '80s the village of South Orange as it was then known took steps to change its name to the Township of the Village of South Orange. Seems like townships (such as Maplewood) were eligible for some sort of state monies while villages were not. Thus the change. At the time, the South Orange feared it would lose its quaintness. Money always talks however. Most people don't even notice this delineation. |
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