| Author | Message | ||
     Duncan Citizen Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 1410 Registered: 12-2001  |
Oh my. Why am I not surprised to hear things like this... "WASHINGTON (Jan. 9) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, pushed out of the administration for not being a team player, says President Bush was so disengaged during Cabinet meetings that he was like a ''blind man in a roomful of deaf people.''" or this "O'Neill was also quoted in the book as saying that the administration's decision-making process was so flawed that often top officials had no real sense of what the president wanted them to do, forcing them to act on ''little more than hunches about what the president might think.''" "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" Wayne Gretzky | ||
| Copihue Citizen Username: Cop Post Number: 206 Registered: 10-2003  |
Duncan, I don't find this particularly alarming. I am glad that W doesn't get into the details, if I did, then I would worry. My last boss was like that. We had to guess what she wanted. It was the stimulus I needed to get the creative juices going. I would have hated to have someone micromanage me. If I didn't address her needs, she let me know it, and I had to change it. That seldom happened. Some people like those kids of guidelines and some people respond very negatively. Pack your own chute. | ||
| NRL Citizen Username: Nrl Post Number: 429 Registered: 8-2003 |
It sounds like the "top 10 officials", including Oneil were not listening to what their boss was saying. If they needed clarification they should have asked. In addition anyone that uses others as an example to make a point is obviously side stepping. Sounds like they did what had to be done. | ||
| Duncan Citizen Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 1411 Registered: 12-2001 |
Sorry but someone characterizing THE POTUS as disengaged in cabinet meetings, well that just scares me. There is a HUGE gulf between micromanaging and disengagement. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" Wayne Gretzky | ||
| Greatest Straw of all time! Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1744 Registered: 10-2001  |
boring BUSH/CHENEY IN 2004.. | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2046 Registered: 12-2001  |
Straw, We lost you on the sentence with punctuation, right? Or was it the three syllable word? | ||
| Greatest Straw of all time! Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1746 Registered: 10-2001 |
O'Neill writes a book and he wants it to sell, right??? Well should it be 400 pages of ass smooching?? Will that sell??? Or, should it be some nasty Michael Moore b.s.?? If I'm looking to make a buck I take the Moore route. As we all know the liberal masses love to buy books on Bush-bashing crap. This because they're desperate for dirt on a man who we all know will be re-elected in November. Poor silly liberals. They lost but they refuse to go away. BUSH/CHENEY IN 2004.. | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4255 Registered: 5-2001 |
O"Neill is, well fithy rich is the best term, from his days at Alcoa. I don't think he wrote the book for the money. Unfortunately, he also has some understanding of economics, which in the Bush Whitehouse is probably a liability. | ||
| Greatest Straw of all time! Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1749 Registered: 10-2001 |
Bobk, O'Neill wore out his welcome and he was sent packing. He may understand economics but as we all know so to do the Bushes. The family has made millions upon millions. Remember?? As for your comment that O'Neill didn't write the book to make money....  BUSH/CHENEY IN 2004.. | ||
| Ainsworth Hunt Citizen Username: Ainsworth Post Number: 151 Registered: 1-2003 |
http://www.freeworldalliance.com/pinkelephants/ | ||
| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 2682 Registered: 10-1999  |
I think Mr. Straw's first post in this thread, was his imitation of the President at a cabinet meeting. "Boring", says he. And Bobk is right, Paul O'Neill has a pile o'cash already. So, there's a real possibility that he's being 100% honest in his book. | ||
| Greatest Straw of all time! Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1750 Registered: 10-2001 |
It's amazing how quickly the MOL liberal bonehead society has taken to Mr.O'Neill. You people are so easy to sell. Keep this in mind when you run out to buy his book this week: "O'Neill gained a reputation during his two years in the Bush Cabinet for frequently shooting from the lip with incendiary comments that shook up financial markets and antagonized Wall Street." "O'Neill was fired in December 2002 when Bush shook up his economic team in search of better salesmen for a new round of tax cuts the president hoped would stimulate a sluggish economy." In other words, O'Neill was failing President Bush, and he paid with his job. BUSH/CHENEY IN 2004.. | ||
| JJC Citizen Username: Mercury Post Number: 162 Registered: 12-2002 |
Good point - we all have our issues. But remember this is the administration that forced the EPA to declare that the air around the WTC was safe to breathe after the 9/11 attacks dispite evidence to the contrary. Where is Ms. Whitman today? There is no room for dissent. This does not negate what O'Neill has to say. | ||
| jonnyt Citizen Username: Jonnyt Post Number: 25 Registered: 6-2001 |
This is from the same book. So who exactly is running the country? Not the president, apparently. Suskind also writes about a White House meeting in which he says the president seems to be wavering about going forward with his second round of tax cuts. "Haven't we already given money to rich people," Suskind says the president uttered, according to a nearly verbatim transcript of an Economic Team meeting he says he obtained from someone at the meeting, "Shouldn't we be giving money to the middle?" | ||
| jonnyt Citizen Username: Jonnyt Post Number: 26 Registered: 6-2001 |
And Ron Suskind, Pulitzer-winning ex-Wall Street Journal reporter, is the author of the book, not O'Neill | ||
| anon Citizen Username: Anon Post Number: 911 Registered: 6-2002 |
An entire discusion about a book that apparently none of you have read. | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4256 Registered: 5-2001 |
Earlier generations of the Bush family. Both of the President Bushes had their problems in business and there is at least some indication they were bailed out by their friends, including their fellow Skull and Bones members. Nothing really wrong with that,it is always nice to have friends, but I don't think they qualify for economic sainthood. | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2048 Registered: 12-2001 |
Al Capone was quite well-to-do at one point, but I don't believe he understood economics. | ||
| Ainsworth Hunt Citizen Username: Ainsworth Post Number: 154 Registered: 1-2003 |
http://www.freeworldalliance.com/pinkelephants/communaziconnect.htm | ||
| Sylad Citizen Username: Sylad Post Number: 137 Registered: 6-2002 |
Why does everyone believe O'Neill, he is not the first person to leave the adminstration, this one or has admin as Gov of Texas and I have not heard similar statements from anyone else. |
