| Author | Message | ||
     wharfrat Citizen Username: Wharfrat Post Number: 923 Registered: 6-2001 |
THANK GOD GEORGIE BOY IS MY PRESIDENT!!!!! How can that be, since you aren't registered to vote. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 731 Registered: 8-2003 |
More research....hottest year on record is 1998, second hottest is 2002, and third hottest is 2003. Now....how many people on this board hope 2004 is hotter than 1998 to keep their argument going? | ||
| Dave Ross Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6130 Registered: 4-1998  |
Keep an argument going? I thought it was a discussion about science and the ecosystem. Anything else to offer? | ||
| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 2728 Registered: 10-1999  |
Dave, I think you're trapped in an MOL version of the "Argument Sketch": M: An argument isn't just contradiction. | ||
| notehead Citizen Username: Notehead Post Number: 882 Registered: 5-2001  |
"how many people on this board hope 2004 is hotter than 1998 to keep their argument going?" Sorry, we've heard that one before... it was just a little different: "I bet you hope a lot of soldiers die to justify your protest of the war". You can do better than that, can't you? | ||
| Kenney Citizen Username: Kenney Post Number: 325 Registered: 11-2003 |
Politicians won't risk short term economic damage for long term benefits to the environment. Social Security should have been dealt with by now as well, but these people have no intention of doing whats right over doing what will get them elected. If our leaders addressed issues without the politics, we would all be so much better off. Term limits would help. The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR.. Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W. Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W. Dave Ross is the coolest!!(being banned sucks) | ||
| drewdix Citizen Username: Drewdix Post Number: 445 Registered: 7-2001 |
cjc- Come on, this one's easy. These studies are at least partially based on all available records of temperature and climatic data,. Records of temperature I think begun being officially recorded in the mid 19th century(correction please). That would be about 150 years ago. Other historical geological evidence for the past who knows how many millenia is gleaned from soil samples, fossils, etc. To suggest that a 3 year (2% of the just time since 1850, forget about since the ice age) reverse in temp. debunks global warming is about as credible a core sample as citing the last 3 days as evidence of global cooling. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 733 Registered: 8-2003 |
Didn't say it totally debunks global warming....unless, of course, I caught the top of the market so to speak. Nor, it shall be noted, do I dispute that global temperatures are warming. I just don't believe that the activities of man are the determinant factor, or even a significant one that -- by itself -- can measurably and effectively slow or reverse that rise in temperature. | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 211 Registered: 10-2002 |
looks like Wharfrat just cost himself his password. His above attack accusing Strawberry of not being a registered voter is a personal attack. | ||
| Duncan Citizen Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 1431 Registered: 12-2001  |
insite. WHAT??? Go back to sleep "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" Wayne Gretzky | ||
| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 2730 Registered: 10-1999 |
That's not much of a personal attack. For good insults, one must consult a good Shakespearean Insult Generator | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 212 Registered: 10-2002 |
good insult?? The guy broke the rule, he attacked the privacy of another poster. He's history if Dave follows through on his pledge. | ||
| Dave Ross Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6132 Registered: 4-1998 |
(i don't get it either) ANYWAY... here's the bright side of global warming:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/02/020213074646.htm | ||
| notehead Citizen Username: Notehead Post Number: 885 Registered: 5-2001 |
Dave, you can bet that my company is going to require me to spend that 11 microseconds in the office. | ||
| lumpyhead Citizen Username: Lumpyhead Post Number: 624 Registered: 3-2002 |
"And by the way, Al Gore is a brilliant man." Notehead- I think Al Gore is a good guy but his grades are on par with GWB's in school so does that make GWB brilliant? All things equal Al Gore isn't President, and even if you believe you were robbed, then Al wasn't smart enough to argue his case. Or is Al brilliant for another reason? | ||
| notehead Citizen Username: Notehead Post Number: 886 Registered: 5-2001 |
I say that based on his speeches and his writing and the prodigious knowledge that he has to offer on such an array of subjects. I think school grades are a relatively weak indicator of intelligence. | ||
| Don Perkins Citizen Username: Cowboy Post Number: 272 Registered: 9-2003  |
It has been sternly requested that further scientific information be made available to give credence to debunking the The Global Warming Hypothesis. Having never learned to post graphs I provide the following link. Please forgive me for its length. http://www.oism.org/pproject/review.pdf Quotes taken from the above link. “The hypothesis of a large atmospheric temperature increase from greenhouse gases (GHGs), and further hypotheses that temperature increases will lead to flooding, increases in storm activity, and catastrophic world-wide climatological changes have come to be known as ''global warming'' a phenomenon claimed to be so dangerous that it makes necessary a dramatic reduction in world energy use and a severe program of international rationing of technology. “ “Each hypothesis must be judged by empirical results. The global warming hypothesis has been thoroughly evaluated. It does not agree with the data and is, therefore, not validated.” I also highly recommend that you spend some additional time un-brainwashing yourselves by reviewing this website. It may not change your mind, but it should bring you back to reality. http://www.globalwarming.org/ | ||
| Don Perkins Citizen Username: Cowboy Post Number: 273 Registered: 9-2003 |
Al Gore is a loser. He lost the election because he failed to win using the laws that govern elections in our great nation. What, didn't he know the rules? He even lost his home state, and county; what's that tell you? He has shown himself to be repeatedly more interested in Al Gore than in doing what is right for America. Yesterday was just another example of that. His blatant disregard for extending courtesy to Joe Lieberman was another. If he was so fond of the Kyoto Protocol, then why didn't he do better than 95-0 vote against it while he headed the Senate? | ||
| Michaela May Citizen Username: Mayquene Post Number: 37 Registered: 1-2004  |
I wonder, are we going to argue evolution next?! Don? Anyone? Sheesh. | ||
| notehead Citizen Username: Notehead Post Number: 888 Registered: 5-2001 |
The second site you link to is not a science site, it is a political site. It tries to pass itself off as a source of scientific information, but it just tells conservatives what they want to hear. It is part of the "National Consumers Coalition" which is a right-wing political group. The first site you link to is from the Oregon Institute of Science & Medicine. They sound like a bunch of survivalists hiding in the hills. It's a tiny organization. As I have said earlier, the overwhelming consensus in the scientific community recognizes a significant contribution by mankind to global warming. I strongly suggest you use a more appropriate source for your information on this subject, such as the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) -- they are the largest organization studying this phenomenon. Their reports are based on immense amounts of peer-reviewed research. Information about IPCC can be found here |
