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Greatest Straw of all time!
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 11:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WHAT A BOW WOW.. EVER HEAR OF A MAKE OVER LADY?????
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bobk
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She looks like what she is, a hardworking doctor.
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tom
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 12:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beauty is only skin-deep, but ugly goes all the way to the bone. Ask Anne Coulter.
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ReallyTrying
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 1:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Straw, that's so mean.

I think it's a nice change to see a candidate (not that I necessarily support him) doesn't always have to have a woman decorating his arm. And to see a candidate's wife who doesn't feel obligated to play the serenely smiling little woman. She is who she is.
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Maplewoody
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 1:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Straw,

Why not post a pic on MOL
of the lovely MRS BERRY ?

Can you say WOOF?
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greeneyes
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 1:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a problem with Dr. Dean's appearance too.

On the one hand:

She is a physician with an active practice.
She has one child still at home
She flew for twelve hours to get to her man.

On the other hand:

She can still run a comb through her hair.
She can decide to tuck or not to tuck her sweater-set into her pants.
Her disheveled appearance makes one wonder if she is up to the task of being First Lady. With the poll numbers so close, there is no room for error and her appearance in my opinion was an error.
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thank you Greeneyes.


Mrs. Berry pics:

$5.00 for standard

$15.00 for partial nude

$30.00 for nude (frontal only)


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mem
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Straw's wife is very attractive. And funny too. Straw, how much for naked pictures of you?
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algebra2
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gee, thanks Maplewoody.

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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd post them for free Mem, but Dave has issue with Nudity on MOL.






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notehead
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maplewoody, there is no need to stoop to that level.

Alge, clearly Maplewoody hasn't actually met you. Perhaps he thought the pic of Flanders was a self-portrait? (I confess I would be afraid of any woman with a moustache like that.)
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Duncan
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting Algy since on a previous thread you disavowed being the Mrs. Straw. Which is it?
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
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extuscan
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I forget what radio program I heard this one, but the Republicans are holding some cards on Dean close to thier vest... the #1 being the Mrs. Howard Dean is a lesbian. They will play it when needed. I know 98% of Maplewoodonliners are shrugging "so..." but that won't go down well outside the two coasts!

--John
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Duncan
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

They will play it when needed. I know 98% of Maplewoodonliners are shrugging "so..." but that won't go down well outside the two coasts!




Neither will outing a political candidates wife. Thats a big ole backfire just awaiting to happen. It may not go down well outside the coasts but it sure as hell will stir up a mess of really vocal bees if 1) its true and 2) some Bush flunky actually does it.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky
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greeneyes
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 2:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

extuscan,

"They" have said that Hillary is a lesbian also....shrug.....
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Nohero
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 5:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Minor thread drift.

Some of you who post here are real believers in the "broken window" theory. Basically, a community should take care of the little things, like broken windows or litter, and fix them. By doing so, this can keep worse problems from eventually coming in and really ruining a neighborhood.

Anyway, the first post on this thread is a broken window.
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Redsox
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 6:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

greeneyes-
i said it- i'm a democrat

also, it's the sham of the situation that matters
-not the lesbos
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tjohn
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 6:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Straw,

Your troll posts are maintaining a consistent rating of "not clever, but mean-spirited". Keep up the fine work.
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sbenois
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 7:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I must agree that comments about Mrs. Dean's appearance are out of bounds. Who cares what she looks like Straw?


We're never going to have an intelligent discussion on politics if we stoop to the level of saying that one's appearance counts for something.




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greeneyes
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 7:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Appearance does count to some. Many First Ladies and potential First Ladies took heat in the press for their "look"

Barbara Bush and her matronly mannish appearance.
Nancy Reagan for her love of couture.
Hillary Clinton for her "middle american complete with headband" hair
Betty Ford before and after the face lift.
Roslyn Carter for just not giving a damn.

The women are talked about and the men judged on the appearance of their mates. We can't deny that. Is it right? The media feels that somebody is interested or they wouldn't bother writing the copy. Perhaps the issue is important to those in Iowa.
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ML1
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 8:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

While this is one of the stupidest threads in recent memory on MOL (and that's saying something), how much more stupid is it than "serious" pundits discussing Kerry's hair, Edwards's youthful good looks, or Gore's earth tones.

Our national discourse is currently so degraded that calling a candidate's wife a "bow wow" is only a very small step below what we already hear on CNN or FOX, and exactly what we'll hear on the EIB network.

But until we tune out this crap, it's what we're going to get.
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bobk
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 4:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

At least Mrs. Dr. Dean hasn't killed anyone with a motor vehicle!!

Will the fact that Mrs. Bush committed manslaughter and didn't do any time become an issue in what will probably be the dirtiest Presidential campaign in US history?
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Greatest Straw of all time!
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 6:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sebonis,

Have to disagree. If you think for one second the appearance and ability of the first lady or potential first lady means nothing you're sadly out of touch.

Was Tipper Gore not a big part of the last campaign? Wasn't Hillary sent to makeover city before Bill ran? Was Nancy Reagan not a powerful figure? Kennedy????

Sorry son, You're missing the point of why it's important Mrs. Dean do a better job for her husband. And it starts with a hair cut and a new outfit.
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tjohn
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 7:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dearest Straw,

Still digging out of our mean-spiritdness are we.

Anyway, nobody, including the esteemed Sbenois, was suggesting that appearances don't count. What the more refined posters are saying is that it is gutter-level to make appearances a central issue.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 7:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tjohn,


That's why you don't get politics. Appearance is half the ball game. Doctor Dean all 5 foot 6 of him lost to 6 foot 4 Kerry in Iowa. These little things count, always will. See Kennedy vs Nixon. For you to pretend that you're a refined political thinker who for some reason can't seem to grasp the little things that count says alot. For starters, it tells us why your opinions and forecasts are usually incorrect.
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tjohn
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 7:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Straw,

Do I have to add reading comprehension courses to your history courses? I get it. We all get it. Let the publicists and image consultants deal with candidate appearances behind the scenes.

Of course, if you are a Bush supporter, I suppose that any sort of sophomoric diversion is preferable to a discussion of his slash and burn-borrow and spend administration.
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bobk
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 8:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have come to a conclusion after a lot of thought. Heck at least 15 seconds.

Straw is really an undercover Democratic operative sent to MOL to stir the usually lethargic masses of voters here into action to upset Shrub.

Makes sense, no?
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sbenois
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 8:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dearest Strawberry,

After last night, it wouldn't matter if she looked like Catherine Zeta-Jones. Dean is finished.


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bobk
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 9:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ex - The last thing, the very last thing, Bush wants to do is bring wives into the campaign.
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Mayhewdrive
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 10:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob,

I admit I had never heard of this "issue", so I did a quick web search & found the following:

When Laura Bush was 17, she was involved in a fatal accident, driving through a stop sign and hitting a car operated by a high school friend. He died. She refers to it as ''a very tragic time in my life.'' No charges were brought. (The question always looms why she was not charged with vehicular manslaughter since the "friend" was her boyfriend who may have just dumped her.) She slammed into the SIDE of his vehicle at an intersection where some claim she was laying in wait. The police reports on the matter are censored and vary from a cloudy rainy night to a clear dark night. The much doctored police report and the reports of several Texas newspapers regarding the incident and the cover-up are found on the Internet. :LB claims that discussing the matter is too distressing - even after almost 40 years - and thus avoids any questions.

I actually see MANY references to this story, but I haven't found a link to any "credible mainstream media" (how's that for an oxymoron?)

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algebra2
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not that it makes a difference now ... but I don't see it being a matter of her being a Bow-Wow or not. If she wanted to be casual she would have looked a hell of a lot nicer in a LL Bean sweater, a nice turtleneck and a pair of Levis. At least she could have put on a collared shirt under that scappy sweatshirt.
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bobk
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 10:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MHD, the only reason I brought the subject up is that the Attack Dogs are circling around Mrs. Dean. The point I was making is that one who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones.

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tjohn
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

At age 17, Laura "not yet" Bush wasn't enjoying the protection of the Bush family. If she avoided prosecution then, who was her benefactor.

As far as it still being too distressing to talk about, I find that entirely credible. Most of us have said/done things much less serious that we don't care to remember/discuss.
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ashear
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 12:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is AP, via USA Today, crdible and mainstream? http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm

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This is the first time I have heard about LB comitting vehicular manslaughter. Interesting....I never heard this on EIB, WABC or even NPR.

As for unattractive first ladies, Nancy Reagan takes the cake. A gigantic head on top of a skinny almost skeletal body, a fake smile....

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Stop picking on poor old Laura Bush, she stands by her man and bakes cookies. So she killed someone by running a stop sign in a 55 MPH zone, thats nothing compared to Hillary speaking her mind and being ambitious and smart (HOW DARE SHE!!!!).

I'm ashamed of myself for adding to the dumbest thread ever but don't talk to me about Bow Wow without uttering the words Bab Bush. Then again I guess some guys got a thing for their Grammas.
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Hey and don't pick on Nancy Reagan either. When she was an actress, she didn't have too much talent in the thespian department but rumor has it , she was the oral sex queen of Hollywood.

Hey Ronnie Raygun, poster boy for "Family Values", knows how to pick em (just don't check with his previous wives).
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mem
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 4:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Talk about people in glass houses...
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Michaela May
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This thread is more than inane, large parts of it are just plain insulting. Why does it matter if the potential first lady is pretty? Or dressed to suit your taste? Straw, thanks for trying to bring women back to a time when their appearance was first and foremost what mattered. Grow up, and get with the 21st century. Or at least the second half of the 20th.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 6:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Micheaela my dear,

As you move forward in Washington keep in mind one thing. Appearance will be half the battle. This along with talent and a few contacts will take you along way.


Trust me on this one. If you want to be successful like I am, you'll do as I say.


Also, if you need a few names in DC, I can help you out there as well.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 6:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michaela, I'm sure you know better than to listen to him.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 11:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

why notehead?
that's brilliant insight - talent, contacts, and good looks will get you far. who knew??!!

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tom
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 11:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, I've seen what goes on in Washington, and Straw's right on that last post.
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm glad the debate has been kept to gentlemanly and appropriate topics.
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 9:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually saw Dean's wife being interviewed last night and what a refreshing change. She's very bright, very real and very warm. I'd much prefer to have her in the White House, then the current First Lady, who truth be told, gives me the creeps (maybe it's that Stepford Wives, phony smile or the knowledge that she actually killed someone in a vehicular manslaughter incident). I also don't find her unattractive but I find intelligence and warmth attractive. Guess I'm just shallow.
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 9:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All right,

cut the crap.

First off, she was 17 and it was an accident. She lives with it every day. It wasn't a Ted Kennedy drunk-murder thing where he could have saved her life but chose to leave her there to save his career instead.

Get your facts straight and stop the nonsense.
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bobk
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 9:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is the mandatory sentence for that sort of things these days in Texas? Five or ten years?
And of course now adays 17 year olds would be tried as an adult.
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 9:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

unless it's an accident.
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algebra2
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 9:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

UK -- I agree, she came off very real in last night's interview. I liked her too.

Straw -- I agree, accidents happen.
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 10:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the Texas statute that I think applies:

Sec. 19.04.Manslaughter.

(a) A person commits an offense if he recklessly causes the death of an individual.

(b) An offense under this section is a felony of the second degree.

[back to list of TX laws] Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.Renumbered from Sec. 19.04 by Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 1123, ch. 426, art. 2, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.Amended by Acts 1987, 70th Leg., ch. 307, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1987.Renumbered from Sec. 19.05 and amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.



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Sec. 19.05.Criminally Negligent Homicide.

(a) A person commits an offense if he causes the death of an individual by criminal negligence.

(b) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.

"Criminal negligence" is defined in Sec. 6.03(d) thusly:
A person acts with criminal negligence, or is criminally negligent, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he ought to be aware of a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint.

I will let you decide if Mrs. Bush's conduct in blowing through a stop sign at 55 qualifies.

Actually, I am not really happy about bringing up this subject. I brought it in as a counter to the original post in this thread about Mrs. Dean. Why? I am not sure. I am not a Dean supporter. This is my last post in this thread.
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Ukealalio
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think the "incident" was intentional but going through a stop sign in a 55 MPH zone shows a severe lack of judgement and a lot of recklessness. Most of us do dumb things in our teens, this is dumber then most.

The current President and first lady are portrayed by conservatives as a return to "morality" after the damn sinners Bill and Hillary. This is pure unadulterated B.S., these are people who could possibly be in jail if they didn't have money and influence to shelter them from the harsh realities us mere mortals must face (not particularly talking about Laura, don't know enough about her background).

Dean is not my 1st choice either but I will gladly pull the lever in his direction if he will be the guy going against Dumbya. I thought his Iowa rant was a little nuts but he scored a lot of points once I saw and heard his wife speak.
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mem
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe we should nominate Mrs. Dean for president under the condition that she keep her husband in a cage.
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 12:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Current First lady quit her oft-mentioned career at the age of 31.
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Jackie Day
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Judy Dean comes across as amazingly normal, down to earth and easy to relate to - I can imagine myself having a conversation with her in line at Kings. The current first lady gives me the creeps too - very smarmy and fake and too coiffed. But I fear that Judy Dean's "realness" will soon be swallowed up by her husband's handlers and image-makers as they realize they need to use her so he can have a realistic shot at the nomination. I give it a month before she reappears with some awful haircut, more makeup, and some of those horrible jewel-tone suits that first ladies (and female politicians) always end up wearing. I feel bad for her. That first picture I saw of her in the NYT in her jeans and running shoes made me want to like her (maybe because I too don't wear much in the way of makeup -- except lipstick for work -- and would rather wear jeans and sneakers than anything else)...and even though I personally don't support her husband (I like Kerry), I thought it was a refreshing new thing to see a potential first lady who's not all made over and political wife-like. Too bad it won't last.
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MEC
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Being a dispalced Texan, I have to say that the primp factor is much diffferent here in the NE than it is in Texas. I see too many women fitting the Judy Dean look up this way, not much attention taken to their looks. In Texas many women will not leave the house without full make-up and hair, even if they are going to the gym and even when it's over 100 outside. So, what might look fake and too coiffed to you Yankees out there is really quite normal looking in the region that our frist family is from.
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anon
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 6:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm with Ms. May. Who cares?
Almost everyone liked the first Mrs. Bush, and she was certainly no glamour-puss!
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree that Mrs. Dean came across as very "normal". Howard Dean also did a good job of coming across "normal" on PrimeTime Live. Although, I wonder if the problem is that he may now appear too "normal" and not "presidential enough".
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Ukealalio
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 2:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hear ya Mayhew. Unfortunately appearing presedential today, means you take some ninkampoop (sp?) who can't string two sentances together and coach him to death to issue terse, frightening, sound-bytes that appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Our kids deserve better. Get out and vote!!!!.
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bobk
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 6:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mrs. Dean for President? :-)

When I watched the interview Mrs. Dean reminded me of a score of hard pressed women I have seen at Kings on Maplewood Avenue, picking up dinner after a hard day of work.

Dean is toast, but this doesn't have anything to do with his wife, who is depressingly normal.

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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 7:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I watched the interview I was struck that Mrs. Dean reminded me of any number of women around here. In other words, she is depressingly normal in a very bright way.

Dean is toast, but it has nothing to do with Mrs. Dean.

I will make another fearless primary prediction for New Hampshire; Dean will be lucky to come in third and may be beaten out by Edwards and end up fourth.
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Lizziecat
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is "depressing" about being "normal"? What's normal, anyway? Nancy Reagan reminded me of a concentration camp victim, Barbara Bush was an ill-tempered virago, Roselyn Carter was too good to be true, Hilary Clinton was too smart to be quiet and the current Mrs. Bush is a non-entity. Judith Dean is a doctor who happens to be married to a candidate. She doesn't care that much about clothes or appearences, she tends her children and her home and her patients, and she and her husband seem satisfied with the arrangement. Let her alone, already!
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 7:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lizzie, not a good choice of words. I support Mrs. Doctor Dean both as a person and in her choice to maintain her medical practice.

I just kind of like the term depressingly normal. Maybe I thought a lot of people expected her to be, well different. She isn't.

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