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Debby
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 2:12 pm: |     |
Boy, I think I've ruffled a few feathers. I probably should have started a new paragraph about nouveau riche - I was referring to Livingston, not Long Island.
But still in all, Livingston does remind me of a lot of the Island - post-war tract housing, no sidewalks, strip malls everywhere. And lots of little ladies with big hair and big trucks. |
Interalia
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 3:22 pm: | |
Debbie:
Some people who live on Long Island fit that description; some communities have housing similar to what you describe. However, I wouldn't generalize and describe all the housing on LI that way, and I certainly wouldn't describe all the people that way. Furthermore, there are lots of beautiful homes in Livington and a lot for 'for real' people. Your generalizations (or stereotyping) is insulting, but mostly inaccurate. |
Ffof
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 3:28 pm: | |
Ever see a house in Livingston that you liked? Architecturally speaking, that is. |
Llama
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 3:35 pm: | |
The beauty must come from within. |
Interalia
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 3:41 pm: | |
Ffof: In fact, yes. I choose to live in Maplewood, and love the old-style quality construction and charming architecture. However, there are many beautiful new homes in Livingston which are very 'user friendly' in that they offer large open rooms, with windows 'that work' and every renovation or repair doesn't cost twice as much because of plaster walls. After 20 years of maintaining a house built in 1934 there is something to be said for NEW. |
Algebra2
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 3:49 pm: | |
There is also a lot of NEW crap --- shoddy construction, hollow doors, split level blah. I am with debby on this one -- my in-laws are n Livingston -- snooty neighborhood and BTW that mall does bring in crime -- they have had NUMEROUS break-ins and attempts over the last few years (and they live in one of those humungous homes -- with hollow doors). |
Melidere
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 10:01 pm: | |
ok, ok, ok.
when diversity and open-mindedness have to include being open to the garbage builders have been putting out there for the last 20 years, i quit.
guess i'm going to have to try on being a conservative.
I HATE those hollow doors and i don't care who knows it. |
Twig
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 10:57 am: | |
Wow...I don't think that this has to be a Maplewood is "all good" and Livingston is "all bad" sort of thing, does it? Geeez...there seems to be some suggestion that owning a colonial somehow makes one more "cultured and refined" than living in a split-level. Isn't that like believing that owning a Mercedes makes one a better person than someone who has a Chevy Cavalier? Ah, but then again, we all have our opinions and by no means am I an exception. Where I personally draw the line is whether someone listens to Howard Stern. That, to me, is the definitive litmus test of one's taste (and implicit value to the human race) and the world can clearly be divided into those who do and those who don't! Now, 'fess up and if you fall in the "do" column, save your soul by running (don't walk) to your car and re-setting that button for K-Rock back to NPR! |
Mwood
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 11:41 am: | |
Oh I get it
Maplewood - erudite, liberal intellectuals living in classic colonials (the more original the better), listening to NPR and watching PBS, seeking out the children of their diverse neighbors for their kid's playmates (at least until high school when that becomes a detriment), having serious discussions about taxes and public education, racial diversity and reading the NY Times Book review.
Livingston - living richly in poorly constructed homes, the newer the better, bigger than the neighbors even better, seeking out playmates for your kids that look exactly like they do, reading the NY Post and voting for Dubya.
Oh we are so superior ; / |
Psychobabbler
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 12:11 pm: | |
Aack - I'm having an identity crisis - I live in the SO/Mplwd school district AND my house is a ranch! Help! |
Interalia
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 12:34 pm: | |
Twig: I listen (and watch when I can) Imus...and some of my closest friends are Livingstonians. If the taxes don't push me out of town, will my neighbors????? I thought we Maplewood folk accepted all kinds of people! |
Twig
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 1:36 pm: | |
Okay, I think that we can keep you folks in Maplewood but we'll have to act fast.
Interalia - I'm sorry but you will have to immediately sever all ties with your friends from Livingston. Associations (but no more than 3) with people from Millburn are acceptable, provided that they are unhappy living there, have an appreciation for the arts, and live in an older home. Submit applications for all new friends to the CCR and/or the BOE for a ruling on their acceptability. And, for future reference, I'd keep the Imus thing to yourself, okay...
Psychobabbler - Quickly now, you must sell your home and buy something built before 1935. I'm sorry, but adding a second floor to turn your curent house into a mock colonial is not allowed. By the by, you will score more "trendy points" if the new home has a slate roof in need of constant repair and noisy steam heat. And be sure that the revaluation caused the taxes on this new home to go up...that's a mark that it's in the 'correct' neighborhood.
Mwood - I'm sorry but your post included the term "Dubya", an obvious reference to President Bush. As you know from the rules of political engagement in Maplewood, the name of a prominent republican is not to be uttered other than as an affront or with a clear mocking tone. I did not detect either in your use of his name. You are to make speed to the next town council meeting to be immersed in democratic philosophy. While there, frequently try to drop names like JFK and Bill Clinton in a reverent voice so as not to be exposed as a potential loyalist sympathizer.
After all, you people have to realize that an appreciation for diversity can only go so far and you all are pushing the limits of acceptability and tolerance. |
Mwood
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 2:14 pm: | |
Twig - I always considered the nickname "Dubya" condescending but if you don't recognize that perhaps you are one of "them" and I have unmasked you as a closet republican! |
Nilmiester
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 3:48 pm: | |
Don't forget the other New Maplewood Rules: Put down the Ken Burns Jazz special because we are so superior and intellectual (way more than Mr. Burns). Also keep on the lookout for others who think they are as superior as we are but have different views from us! Then call them racists (hey, it worked in the Crucible) and maybe they will go live in some lily white town to the near west of us. Also is it perfectly acceptable to utter the name of any republican in any mocking tone you desire. This is not only condoned it is recommended. And when you do utter the name of the man closest to God, Mr. Bill Clinton, say it in hushed tones and then repeat, "I wish he could be President again." Then say a quick prayer (scratch that, not PC, make it a wish), that Hillary will run for President and Bill can be VP, just like the good ole days. |
Msuewillis
| | Posted on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 10:23 pm: | |
I'm enjoying the humor, but just wanted to put in a plug for Columbia High School where my son is a sophomore and getting a wonderful education-- great teachers, stimulating classes, and a variety of friends. It's the kind of high school where there are so many types of kids, no one has to be a loner. |
Deannel
| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 9:09 am: | |
i'm enjoying the humour too. I just finished working on some graphics for a new song for a friend of mine in new orleans. It is just soooo on target to this topic, i feel like i have to share.
it's called flexible
you'll need the flash4 plugin to hear it. just click on the word 'flexible' above.
hope it makes you smile. |
Loyo65
| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 12:42 pm: | |
Wow! Love the song, the performer and the graphics. Tell us more about this musician. |
Mlj
| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 1:18 pm: | |
Deannel, very interesting. Reminded me of Little Feat. |
Deannel
| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 1:26 pm: | |
Why thanks. Glad to make you smile.
The song was written and sung by jay griggs, who is also playing all the instruments except percussion. He is a guitar player in New Orleans.
The percussion was performed by a percussionist in London who has the screen name 'engin' (grins)
The collaboration was done on the internet via a software site called ResRocket |
Cody
| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 4:47 pm: | |
Just wanted to say that I had gone to CUNY (Hunter) back in the 1960s and Columbia reminds me of that environment. Lots of choices, lots of different kinds of kids, students have to make the effort to get the best education possible - it's not just handed to them by virtue of their being there. I think CHS is a wonderful lead-in to college and the real world. I have a child there now and think it is a remarkable school. |
Algebra2
| | Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2001 - 5:10 pm: | |
"Non-liberal", Post-reading, Howard listening, Simpsons watching, Imus liker who lives in colonial with non-landscaped property. |
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