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United STRAWBERRY of America
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1852
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 9:14 pm: |     |
Here's your ticket my silly little Dumbocrats.
I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
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Mayhewdrive
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Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 751
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 9:35 pm: | |
Sounds good to me Straw.
Did anyone notice that Kerry and other democrats also got a significant number of write-in votes in the REPUBLICAN primary. Bush got a few write-ins in the Democratic primary...but VERY few.
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2004/primaries/by_state/NH_Page .html?SITE=YAHOOELN&SECTION=POLITICS#TOP
Is this typical of what has happened in the past, or is Bush hated even more than previous opposition party candidates? |
NRL
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Username: Nrl
Post Number: 455
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 10:32 pm: | |
Clinton scored big with young voters. Wonder why Dean is not winning big with the same kids. Fresh out of college, they dont know whats its like to get 40% taken out of their paycheck? Recruit them while their young and unemployed.. They said Dean raised most of his money on the net with young voters?? Where are they? Is there still a chance for Dean or is he cooked? I am glad Kerry is leading, he is a class act but he still wont beat my man George W and company |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 501
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 10:46 pm: | |
According to cnn.com:
"Sen. Joseph Lieberman calls fifth-place finish a 'three-way split decision' with Clark, Edwards"
Now that's funny. |
bobk
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4466
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 5:03 am: | |
Actually NRL, in the 2000 election Bush did extremely well with younger voters. Also, with college students the GOP still seems to be doing pretty well. Something like 64% of them support the war, as an example.
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United STRAWBERRY of America
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1853
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 9:21 am: | |
Al Gore comes racing back to the States to endorse Dean. It's amazing how this guy went from nearly being President to a man who clearly now has little or no pull in his party anymore. Is there any more doubt that this guy is a complete idiot?
Kerry will roll the rest of the way and Dean will hang around to create weakness in the party. Edwards makes a fine V.P. candidate though I do believe come debate time, Cheney will make him look quite inexperienced. Clark would be the better choice for debate purposes, but Edwards pull in the South cannot be ignored.
I can also see Clark becoming Sec. of Defense if the Dems were to pull off an upset in Nov.
In the end though, the Clintons will do something to interrupt Kerry's momentium, so Hillary has a chance to run in 08. She won't run against an incumbent so they need to move quickly.
I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2
Post Number: 1587
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 9:28 am: | |
I'll vote Kerry-Edwards! |
bobk
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4470
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 9:34 am: | |
Catch William Safire in the Times today, he has a draft Hillary scenario for the convention this summer. LOL Personally I don't think the Dems are quite as savage in eating their young as the GOP.
As long as the candidates don't start really savaging each other (like the Bush attack on McCain last election in South Carolina) I think an active and competitive primary season is good for the Dems because they will be constantly in the news and the public eye. All the newschannels seem to be having a hayday with this.
I usually don't watch debates to be honest. As Straw says, boring! However I would stay up late for a debate between Senator Nice and Vice President nasty.  I think Edwards is smarter to be quite honest and that smirk of Cheney's is almost as bad on television as Dean's Rant.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 503
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 9:44 am: | |
Why does William Safire have a Hillary obsession?
What's with him?
Shouldn't it be clear by now that the "draft Hillary" nonsense is just something cooked up by radio hosts who need something interesting to talk about? |
United STRAWBERRY of America
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1854
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 10:08 am: | |
algebra,
like hell you will. 
I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
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mfpark
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Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 186
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 10:54 am: | |
Cheney won't be the one debating Edwards--I am betting he moves aside for someone who would be able to run in 2008. Someone with an evil nefarious mind (for a Democrat) last night posited Condee Rice--man, that would be an interesting choice! |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 1866
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 11:00 am: | |
MSNBC was running something yesterday suggesting it might be Giuliani. Another interesting choice. I wonder how he'd play nationally?
I thought he was a great mayor, but as a president he'd make Nixon look naive and trusting. |
JJC
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Username: Mercury
Post Number: 189
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
I wonder how Cheney feels about potentially being dumped. He has been running the show. As for Rudy - think you are correct. What passes as politics in NYC doesn't in most of the rest of the country. I am sure he has some interesting things in his closet. |
United STRAWBERRY of America
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1855
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 11:15 am: | |
Cheney has been running the show???? Kind of a silly statement. Thanks for giving us a clear indication of how much you really "don't" know.
As far as skeletons in Rudy's closet. Other then marrying his cousin, there are none.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 2821
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 11:19 am: | |
Giuliani and his temper would make Howard Dean look like Gandhi.  |
bobk
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4473
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 11:28 am: | |
The polls seem to show that Kerry and Edwards both appeal to women voters. Rice would probably help to blunt that to some degree, if the GOP realises the election is not going to be the slam dunk they hoped for.
The question is would Bush break with his conservative base with either Rice or Giuliani? Rice supports at least some quotas and Giuliani is pro choice. I have no idea where Rice stands on that issue.
If the Dems win with, say, Kerry-Edwards, a smart move would be to offer Homeland Security to Giuliani and try to break some moderates, who have got to be feeling marginalized at best by Bush and Company, away from the GOP. Also, I always thought that Giuliani would have been the best choice for Homeland Security in the first place, but did his NY roots and great popularity after 911 hurt his chances because he was viewed as a possible rival?
I have always felt that being President pushes you towards the middle. This hasn't happened with Bush II. During his administration he has moved more to the right than his campaign would have indicated. Is he in control or is he basically a candidate controlled by the power brokers in the party. |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 795
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 12:40 pm: | |
Bush can go less than hardline conservative with a veep candidate (hey...Cheney is going no where but back for another term, but for the exercise of it all...) because he's been OK on 3 big issues -- taxes, the war, and judges/choice/partial birth abortion. If his opponent was Lieberman -- someone from the middle -- Bush would have to go more to the right with a veep because Lieberman isn't a complete leftist. As long as Bush runs against a leftist, he can pick almost whoever he wants -- even pro-choice Rudy who's strong on taxes and defense. |
mfpark
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Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 187
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 1:05 pm: | |
I suspect that if Chaney were to be made Chief of Staff or some similar position, he could still remain close to the top while allowing the GOP to build momentum for 2008. He has said he does not want to run, and Bush has shown that he can share the limelight with his VEEP, so putting a rising star in the copilot seat while keeping Chaney as the bench coach is a smart move. And, it would give Bush a HUGE bounce out of the convention, lots of buzz to blunt the Democrat's press rally of a primary. |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 2824
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 2:46 pm: | |
The party would have to agree on which "rising star" should get that plum position, and automatic "front runner" status in 2008. They may not be able to agree on that, especially since more than one prominent Republican probably sees himelf or herself as a potential candidate.
I could be wrong, but I would not expect the Republican party to give the VP position to a pro-choice, pro-gay rights, thrice-married Italian guy from New York. |
Michaela May
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Username: Mayquene
Post Number: 58
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 5:00 pm: | |
Anybody notice that exit polls from N.H. showed that most of Lieberman's votes were by poeple who considered themselves Republican? |
dacar
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Username: Dacar
Post Number: 71
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 7:33 pm: | |
Edwards has rejected the VP slot |
jeffl
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Username: Jeffl
Post Number: 309
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 7:44 pm: | |
Where did you see that Edwards rejected the VP slot? The only thing that I heard was that he wanted to be president. I think he carefully didn't out and out refuse a VP appointment.
Do you have the reference? |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 941
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 8:20 pm: | |
In what fantasy world do some of you live? The GOP ticket is Bush-Cheney.
Rudy G for VP? When Chris Matthews suggested that on his show in 2000 Jerry Falwell almost lost his lunch on air! Rudy left his wife and went to live with two gay guys!
Condolezza Rice? That's the only way that any Dem candidate, even Dean, becomes the candidate of "the guys in pick-ups with Confederate Flag bumper stickers".
As for Dem VP, whoever gets the nomination, the obvious choices are Bob Graham, the only guy who has a chance of delivering Florida and the guy who voted against going to war with Saddam on the grounds that it would divert time and money from fighting Osama. Or, Bill Richardson, the Hispanic.
And Bill Safire must be a genius to have figured out how to get well paid for writing absolute nonsense! |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 1873
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 8:22 pm: | |
Everybody rejects the VP slot, right up until the time when the top of the ticket is decided. Then they all reconsider. Why should Edwards pre-empt his chances of picking up a lot of delegates in the south by surrendering this soon? |
bobk
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4480
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 4:12 am: | |
If a fair number of the current candidates stay in the race to the end the convention is going to be very interesting. Kerry is probably going to have something like 35% to 40% of the delegates pledged to him, but not a majority. There will not be a first ballot nomination This will lead to some very interesting horse trading.
If Edwards lets personal ambition take over party loyalty he will not take the VP slot. He can better position himself for a future presidential bid from the Senate. Dean may very well end up the power broker if he has 25% of the delegates tied up.
Politics, the most fun you can have standing up. |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1484
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 7:20 am: | |
Hey Straw.. Edwards on the Today Show yesterday said he would not run as veep. wonder if when all is said and done he will keep his word. I know the Today Show producers have saved that sound bite for later use.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky |
bobk
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4482
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 8:41 am: | |
Duncan, that is an easy one to reverse on, while still looking good.
"For the good of the party and because I feel I can help Senator Kerry win in November and after discussin' it with mah wife I agree to accept the Vice Presidential nomination. Beat Bush!!" |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1487
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 8:44 am: | |
LOL bobk
I know but dont for a minute think that the opposition wont grab that sound bite (it was a fairly firm and resounding no by the way) and flail madly away with it if the ticket does indeed become Kerry/Edwards.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky |
harpo
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Username: Harpo
Post Number: 1079
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 9:09 am: | |
I find it quite plausible, not fantasy driven, to think Dick Cheney will be off the GOP ticket come September. A friend of mine predicted Bush will run with Joe Lieberman.  That should really confuse the poor voters in Florida.
But seriously, I don't think it will be Rudy for the reasons Nohero said and I don't think it will be Condi for the same reasons it won't be Dick Cheney: the official story line is shaping up to be that underlings lied to the Prez about Iraq.
Cheney presents other genuinely-based liabilities for the ticket: Halliburton scandals, health issues (I'm sure the GOP wants to run against Kerry's prostate cancer) and increasingly high negatives with the public at large. (Swing voters who say they personally like Bush will often say they don't trust Cheney, and fear he exerts too much power over Bush.)
Can't even guess who would replace Cheney, but I'm not sure the GOP knows for sure either. Perhaps they are hoping the Dem nominee will be picked by March so they have a clearer picture of what they need. I suspect as high on their list as women and blacks are is somebody who is known to the public as a fiscal conservative.
Is Warren Rudman still alive? (Bonus points for being Jewish too!)
Well, maybe Warren Rudman is too anti-deficit for this Administration to give a microphone to.
PS Nohere: The GOP wouldn't have to commit to a "rising star" in replacing Cheney if it picked another "eminence grise." |
bobk
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4485
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 9:59 am: | |
"Conventional Wisdom" has been for quite awhile that the Democrats had nobody of Presidential caliber. This is proving wrong.
The question now is who do the Republicans have to back up Bush? To me the pickin's look mighty thin, since there are so many political litmus tests that have to be met. Can anyone see Newt, Delay or Dick Army as V.P.?
The capable people in the party (Powell, Rice, McCain, Ridge, etc.) all seem to have something in thier background that would disqualify them from consideration becasue of the far right wing of the party and the power that block wields. |
notehead
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Username: Notehead
Post Number: 909
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 2:09 pm: | |
Perhaps Bush will grab Giuliani for Veep? That would definitely get a lot of attention, particularly from those non-New Yorkers that only know him from his fine leadership after 9/11.
I heard a rumor that Bush is on the verge of proposing an increase in the NEA's budget. Not sure who he thinks he'd be pandering to with that, I don't think there is a significant number of undecided voters who would be swayed by that move. Anyone else hear that one? |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 512
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 2:16 pm: | |
the NEA is a private organization, so that wouldn't be true. |
Michaela May
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Username: Mayquene
Post Number: 60
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 2:49 pm: | |
I think the Bush would have a hard time dumping Cheney without making it look like he's dumping Cheney. Had he backed out early, say citing health reasons, it might have been no big deal. But now that Halliburton contraversey has taken a more public spotlight and Cheney is being put on on the defensive about certifying intelligence that led to the war in Iraq, Cheney's withdrawl could be seen as an admission of wrongdoing on the part of the Bush administration.
But, if Cheney were to go, I bet that the Bush administration would pick someone with a lower profile, and perhaps more limited time in public service, than any of the aforementioned. I think the Republicans would want to groom an '08 candidate -- and one who would appease conservatives and have a personality (like Bush's?) that is appealing to the public.
For his presidential campaign to have any hope, Edwards can't say he would take the VP slot. Same as Clark, and all the rest.
Also, the NEA thing is true -- bush wants to grow arts funding by $18 million, and some fiscal conservatives are not so happy. NEA is a gov't agency (I love Google). Tommy Tancredo was decrying that last night on the House floor, and then he went on and on about how the government shouldn't be supporting the arts, much like it doesn't have a national endowment for religion. See the San Francisco Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/01/29/national093 6EST0517.DTL
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harpo
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Username: Harpo
Post Number: 1084
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 4:07 pm: | |
michaela,
Chest pains can come on very suddenly. I'm sure all of us -- Republicans and Democrats alike -- would heave a sigh of relief if Dick Cheney reluctantly informed us he felt he needed to take better care of his health somewhere in hte private sector. In fact, the longer he stays the more I suspect he's afraid to be on the outside where he has less of a chance of keeping prosecutors off his back. But why should George Bush carry that burden?
You could be right about his replacement. But who their next empty suit and head to groom will be, I don't know. Dennis Miller? He used to snort cocaine too, didn't he?
bobk,
I'm having a good laugh at your list of the "capable people" in the Republican party -- especially colorful Tom Ridge.
The NEA is currently headed by an appointee who is a poet. I hope the new money Bush is promising goes to all the poets who got disinvited to Laura Bush's tea party because they wanted to read their anti-war poetry! |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 433
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 4:36 pm: | |
Cheney won't run. I feel strongly that the GOP will move someone else in to create a more sunshiney ticket. If they put Cheney in charge of evaluating the vp candidates again, I guess he might pick himself. |
lumpyhead
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Username: Lumpyhead
Post Number: 647
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 4:39 pm: | |
Oh the things we did in college. Didn't Clinton snort coke while he was President??
Cheney will step down and RUDY will fill in in 04 and the President role in 08. Bye Hill. |
themp
Citizen
Username: Themp
Post Number: 434
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 4:40 pm: | |
I donated $150 to Kerry this morning. He went to war while GB was crawling around under barstools in cowboy boots. |
Michaela May
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Username: Mayquene
Post Number: 62
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 4:59 pm: | |
lumpy, what the heck are you talking about -- Clinton and coke?! Huh? |
United STRAWBERRY of America
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1859
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 5:01 pm: | |
Clinton was a pot face, not a coke nose.
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themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 435
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 5:08 pm: | |
Looking under the barstools for his coke spoon that is.
No, he put those rumors to rest with his forthright declaration that he had never done drugs, right? He's a straight shooter. |
Michaela May
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Username: Mayquene
Post Number: 64
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 5:32 pm: | |
This from a bunch of baby boomers? We all know about your generation. -_- |
lumpyhead
Citizen
Username: Lumpyhead
Post Number: 648
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 5:37 pm: | |
yeah and he never had sex... |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 6245
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 5:38 pm: | |
Why not Edwards/Kerry? |
themp
Citizen
Username: Themp
Post Number: 438
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 5:50 pm: | |
I like Kerry/Edwards. I don't think Kerry could possibly step down to the second spot under the younger Edwards. |
harpo
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Username: Harpo
Post Number: 1087
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 6:22 pm: | |
hemp,
Was that when Bush had finished dancing nude on top of barstools or before, instead of reporting for duty with the Texas Air National Guard, his dodge during the Vietnam War? Uh no, lumpy, Georgie wasn't still in college, unless you are counting his later in life frantic dive into Harvard Business School.
Here's a highly entertaining little movie that explains it all, to the tune of Eric Clapton's "Cocaine."
http://www.ericblumrich.com/topgun.html
I'd be glad to see Rudy on the ticket. Rules out any chance of the GOP harping on prostate cancer and the sanctity of marriage and infidelity.
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Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 6248
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 6:30 pm: | |
I think you're right about Kerry not being able to stomach a VP spot with the upstart Edwards. But I like Kerry too and would be happy to support him. Still, I think Edwards is the only sure winner against Bush. I think Edwards would go with a midwest liberal for VP spot, like Daschle. They would crush Bush/Cheney so far underfoot you wouldn't be able to find them with an oil rig. |
sbenois
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Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 10658
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 7:38 pm: | |
Dave,
Edwards is a sure winner against Bush? Is that in the new edition of the National Enquirer?
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Hey, it also wouldn’t look good coming out of a motel with your wife’s best friend saying you were just planning a surprise birthday party for her husband...- Arturo November '03
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Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 6251
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 7:58 pm: | |
Big picture:
Give the Carolinas to Edwards and it's over for Bush. As a D he's already guaranteed the northeast and California. No big reach here, really.
Detail:
Edwards' message of two America's has a big populist appeal, which he delivers without being condescending. Moreover, Edwards can attract the more educated and conservative psychographic (like Dean) without the northeast liberal stigma, which will follow and possibly doom Kerry.
In terms of electability it's Edwards first, Kerry second, Clark third, then Dean.
And don't poo-poo the National Enquirer. They pay well. |
sbenois
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Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 10659
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 8:04 pm: | |
Big Picture: Edwards is a nobody.
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Hey, it also wouldn’t look good coming out of a motel with your wife’s best friend saying you were just planning a surprise birthday party for her husband...- Arturo November '03
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Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 6255
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 10:28 pm: | |
Exactly. And that's why America is still the greatest nation. ANYONE can become president. |
sbenois
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Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 10662
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 10:34 pm: | |
Except Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, Bush Sr., Arnold S., Jimmy Carter, Dick Gephardt and John Edwards.
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dacar
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Username: Dacar
Post Number: 72
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 11:31 pm: | |
from SF Gate as reported on Drudge:
Presidential candidate John Edwards on Wednesday rejected any notion of sharing the Democratic ticket with front-running rival John Kerry -- unless he is at the top.
Asked on NBC's "Today" show if he would accept second place on the Democratic slate to face President Bush in the fall election, Edwards said: "I think you've got the order reversed. I intend to be the nominee."
Edwards said he would not be willing to be No. 2. "No, no. Final. I don't want to be vice president. I'm running for president," he said.
In a rally Wednesday at South Carolina State, Edwards told supporters he was delighted with his showing in New Hampshire, even though he placed fourth behind John Kerry, Howard Dean and Wesley Clark.
"What an incredible two weeks we've had," said Edwards, who scored a surprising second-place finish in the Iowa caucuses. "Now the job we'll have to do is to continue this momentum."
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United STRAWBERRY of America
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1861
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 8:58 am: | |
Edwards for President? A personal injury attorney becomes President? A man who would sue you if someone slipped in your driveway for President?
No, don't think so.
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JJC
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Username: Mercury
Post Number: 193
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 9:56 am: | |
Hmmm. Current WH occupant's resume includes stints as a coke fiend, alcoholic and Natl Guard deserter. The next step down is electing a (gasp!) lawyer. Straw - I'm with you on this one. Worrisome. |
United STRAWBERRY of America
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1865
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 10:02 am: | |
Yeah, a Harvard & Yale grad. Trained fighter pilot, Multi-millionaire oil man, owner of a major league baseball team, Governor of Texas...Why not list all his accomplishments while we're at it..
In other words, he's done more in his life then every MOL poster combined. (except me)
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wharfrat
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Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 936
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:39 am: | |
A man who went places (and avoided going to other places) because of family connections.
A man who made some of his fortune as a result of his crony-capitalist connections...
yup... |
Michaela May
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Username: Mayquene
Post Number: 65
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 12:48 pm: | |
And most of those "accomplishments" were because he was his father's son. Do you think he'd be anywhere otherwise? |
Ukealalio
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Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 417
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 1:17 pm: | |
Of course he would be somewhere if he was not his fathers son. Probably in a bar imitating Howard Dean's unfortunate Yee-Haa speech. Only thing is with Dumbya it would be perfectly in character and nobody would be shocked. |
bottomline
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Username: Bottomline
Post Number: 46
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 2:36 pm: | |
If the Iraq intelligence scandal goes much further, I say Cheney will become the fall guy. The word is out that last year he spent a lot of face time with mid-level CIA analysts helping develop the rational for going to war. Just last week he gave another speech where he basically came out in favor of WMD, that is to say supporting the belief that we’ll still find huge stockpiles of them in Iraq. At the same time all the other White House insiders were anonymously saying an inquiry is needed, and the Republican members of congress were saying so publicly.
And if Edwards is the VP candidate he will take Cheney apart with this issue. He’s a trial lawyer, after all. He’s skilled at working the jury and raising doubts. How hard will it be to raise doubts about Cheney?
Won’t be long before Cheney is bowing out, citing health and family issues. Bush will reluctantly accept, with great public displays of gratitude for Cheney’s long and valuable public service. Then along comes Condi Rice. She doesn’t seem to be tainted by this intelligence scandal, certainly not like Colon Powell . With her onboard, the Republican ticket suddenly grabs a lot of attention from women voters who otherwise wouldn’t have looked twice. The VP debate takes on a whole new character, too, since Rice is a world-class stonewaller – second to none in talking at length while revealing nothing. (Watch the Sunday morning news shows if you’re not familiar with her in this capacity.)
And if Bush-Rice win in 2004, where does that leave Hillary in 2008?
This could all get very interesting.
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harpo
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Username: Harpo
Post Number: 1102
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 10:02 pm: | |
I don't think it can be Condi. She's been unable to come up with a coherent story as to why the President told the American people there was proof Iraq attempted to buy nuclear materials from Africa after the White House had already been told such claims were forged and faked. Her contradictions and implausible excuse-making (she is the National Security Advisor, after all) have been haunting her since last July.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A51224-2003Jul26?language=printer
Tommy Thompson for Vice President? |
bottomline
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Username: Bottomline
Post Number: 47
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 10:35 pm: | |
OK, Thompson's a possibility. He’s from up north, and he’s about as liberal as Bush would ever allow on the ticket with him. On the other hand, if health care becomes a serious issue, Thompson would be the front man for whatever the administration has, or hasn’t, done.
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