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NCJanow(akaLibraryLady)
Citizen
Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 1184
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 10:56 am: |     |
Ga. Official Proposes Altering Curriculum
By DOUG GROSS
Associated Press Writer
ATLANTA (AP) -- The state's school superintendent has proposed striking the word evolution from Georgia's science curriculum and replacing it with the phrase "biological changes over time."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/01/30/striking.evolution.ap/index.html
NCJ aka LibraryLady
On a coffee break..or something like it. |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 2834
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:01 am: | |
They prosecuted some poor sucker in these United States
For teaching that man descended from the apes
They coulda settled that case without a fuss or fight
If they'd seen me chasin' you, sugar, through the jungle last night
They'da called in that jury and a one two three said
Part man, part monkey, definitely B. Springsteen, "Part Man, Part Monkey"
It's unimaginable, but true, that there are still people who think that teaching science is harmful. |
NCJanow(akaLibraryLady)
Citizen
Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 1185
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 7:26 pm: | |
A quote from our former president, Jimmy Carter. At least not all of our southern politicians are anti-science..even if they can't pronounce nuclear.
As a Christian, a trained engineer and scientist, and a professor at Emory University, I am embarrassed by Superintendent Kathy Cox's attempt to censor and distort the education of Georgia's students," Carter said in a written statement.
NCJ aka LibraryLady
On a coffee break..or something like it. |
Ukealalio
Citizen
Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 402
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 7:31 pm: | |
Dumbya is living proof that were related to apes. And I'm sorry up front to apes, I didn't mean your character. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1881
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 12:36 am: | |
These are the same people who think they've got global warming all figured out. |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4495
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 6:07 am: | |
Honestly, don't you people read your Bibles? The Bible clearly states that God created Heaven and earth and all the creatures in seven days.
Personally, I don't think Georgia went far enough. They should ban the teaching of evolution completely, or at least give Creationism equal status in the schools.
I am very disappointed in former President Carter's statement. Even though he is a liberal, I always considered him a fine Christian up to now.
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Grateful Straw
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1882
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 9:07 am: | |
global warming????? my ass. 
Look for awhile at the China Cat Sunflower proud-walking jingle in the midnight sun Copper-dome Bodhi drip a silver kimono like a crazy-quilt stargown through a dream night wind.
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tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1885
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 12:05 pm: | |
Someone should publsh a new magazine for you people, "Unscientific American." |
Marvin Gardens
Citizen
Username: Marvin_gardens
Post Number: 63
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 1:31 pm: | |
It amazes me that people still think the bible has any creedence whatsoever. Not only is it full of contradictions and impossibilities but it was written at a time when people had no idea the rest of planet they lived on even existed!!! Now we know that there are actually ten billion galaxies in the universe!!! Not stars, not planets but galaxies. The bible even has two versions of Genesis in the same book. They couldn't even get their own story straight.
Depending on which of the hundred different versions you read, the bible is nothing more than a collection of stories and should be treated as such. Religion is without question, the cause for the most suffering, war and death in the entire history of mankind. Aside from the Republican War machine.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 518
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 3:53 pm: | |
How industry hijacked 'sound science'
New Orleans Times-Picayune
Thursday January 29, 2004
Oliver Houck
Exerpt:
We now see a return to science, not for the purpose of environmental protection but rather to defeat it. Consider the advice of Frank Luntz, a presidential and congressional strategist, on the growing problem of climate change:
"Voters believe that there is no consensus about global warming within the scientific community," he advised members of Congress and the administration. Thus, "you need to continue to make the lack of scientific certainty the primary issue in the debate."
Might this tactic be stretching the truth a little? "A compelling story," he explained, "even if factually inaccurate, can be more emotionally compelling than a dry recitation of the truth."
Full article:
http://www.nola.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1075359554305670.xml?nola |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1886
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 6:25 pm: | |
Marvin, take a deep breath and think about the American Red Cross.
Anyway, it's not fair to blame religion. Wars are caused by people with a lust for power and money, and religion has just been the most convenient armature on which to hang it. By the twentieth century other kinds of ideologies were available, so we got Nazi and communist versions. If Nazism and communism weren't available, Hitler, Stalin and Lenin would have found some kind of religion to validate their actions on. But obviously it wouldn't be the religion's fault. |
Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 642
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 6:42 pm: | |
You "Bible Thumpers" are kidding right? It’s one thing to be religious, it another to be ignorant. |
notehead
Citizen
Username: Notehead
Post Number: 911
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 11:34 pm: | |
...and yet another to actually choose and defend ignorance. |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4499
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 8:49 am: | |
Did anyone else catch the interview on CNN with the great Reverend Jerry Falwell? He stated clearly and unequivacably that 80% if Americans, the true Americans I might add, believe in Creationism.
He also stated that a possible review of the Georgia Education Commissioners decision wouldn't happen. The Governor has come full out in support of his Commissioner.
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eliz
Citizen
Username: Eliz
Post Number: 696
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 10:59 am: | |
Bobk - you have to use those little smiley faces if you want people to know you're joking. You are joking, right? |
Grateful Straw
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1897
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 11:02 am: | |
GLOBAL WARMING?????? my ass.
Look for awhile at the China Cat Sunflower proud-walking jingle in the midnight sun Copper-dome Bodhi drip a silver kimono like a crazy-quilt stargown through a dream night wind.
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bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4501
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 3:52 pm: | |
eliz, I have never been more serious in my life.
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tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2169
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 5:37 pm: | |
From time to time, Christian nations, in a fit of religious zeal, expelled all Jews. Spain did this in 1492.
During the 30's rabid Marxists in the USSR insisted that there was a socialist way of science and thinking and they were very hard on non-conformist.
The Nazis also held a similar point of view.
In all cases, these attempts to impose religion on economics or science backfired. Spain suffered economically from the expulsion of the Jews. Soviet and Nazi science suffered.
What's the point you ask? Those states that succeed in imposing creationism over true science will suffer a loss of their best and brighest. The great universities and research complexes will be found elsewhere.
Let these states impose creationism over science. New Jersey stands to benefit. |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4502
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 5:46 pm: | |
Well evolusionism is detroying our graduate schools of science. A majority of graduate students in the sciences at our major univerities are non US citizens. Is this because 80% of Americans consider evolution bunk? I think so.
Think about it.
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tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2170
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 7:45 pm: | |
The theory of evolution is not an "-ism". It is an explanation for the diversity of life on our planet that is supported by a wide range of evidence from fossils to DNA mapping of modern species. However, the theory of evolution conflicts directly with literal interpretations of the Bible whereas most scientific work does not.
I can assure you that the theory of evolution was in vogue at our universities when my father earned his PhD circa 1954. At that time, virtually all graduate students were Americans. Our universities at that time were reaping the benefits of a flood of displaced European scholars. Earning a PhD was a prestigious accomplishment. A starting professor could earn a good salary and the job pressures are not what they are today.
I can think of any number of reasons for the decline in American graduate students as a percentage of the total enrollment, but none of them have anything to do with teaching the theory of evolution. |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4504
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 4:03 am: | |
Before Tjohn has a stroke or something I think I should 'fess up and admit my posts in this thread have been tongue in cheak. Sometimes the best way to argue a point is to assume the role of the other side and carry it to its illogical conclusion. |
tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2171
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 5:48 am: | |
I suspected as much until you response to Eliz. Then I had to assume the Bobk of the last three or so years on MOL was no more. |
eliz
Citizen
Username: Eliz
Post Number: 697
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 9:48 am: | |
Bobk you completely threw me with these posts. |
notehead
Citizen
Username: Notehead
Post Number: 913
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 1:09 pm: | |
I was going to suggest we form a search party to find the real Bobk, who was surely being held prisoner on a spaceship somewhere. |
NCJanow(akaLibraryLady)
Citizen
Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 1201
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 2:43 pm: | |
"Saner heads prevailed?"
Georgia school chief drops 'evolution' proposal
Thursday, February 5, 2004 Posted: 1:19 PM EST (1819 GMT)
Georgia Superintendent of Schools Kathy Cox
ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Georgia's school superintendent Thursday dropped plans to remove the word "evolution" from the state's high school science curriculum.
"I will recommend to the teacher teams that the word 'evolution' be put back in the curriculum," Kathy Cox said in a statement.
www.cnn.com
NCJ aka LibraryLady
On a coffee break..or something like it. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1924
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 11:40 pm: | |
I hope our president evolves from a monkey someday. |
Ukealalio
Citizen
Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 424
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 9:21 am: | |
Your President. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1925
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 9:34 am: | |
from an AP story on Bush's declining approval numbers, ""I think he's run the country into the ground economically, and he comes out with these crazy ideas like going to Mars and going to the moon," said Richard Bidlack, a 78-year-old retiree from Boonton, N.J., who says he voted for Bush in 2000. "I'm so upset at Bush, I'll vote for a chimpanzee before I vote for him.""
Ahem, Richard, I don't know how to tell you this, but... |
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