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Jurgnz
Citizen
Username: Jurgnz
Post Number: 2
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 3:17 pm: |     |
We now have Howard Dean calling Kerry the special interest Senator. You have to admit it is a bit hypocritical for the ultimate Washington insider to be out campaigning saying that he wants to take back the White House from the special interests. It sure doesn't look like he had any practice taking back the Senate from the special interests that have supported him.
Is it true that since 1989, John Kerry has received more contributions from registered lobbyists than any current or former Senator?
So why should it matter if he received Botox treatments or not? Forget that he denies it, why doesn’t he at least know what they are? Isn’t his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry somewhat familiar with them?
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tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1900
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 5:43 pm: | |
pretty catty for a troll, aren't you? |
Catastrophe
Citizen
Username: Cat
Post Number: 31
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 - 1:18 am: | |
I resent that implication. No self-respecting feline would ever post something so inane. |
Catastrophe
Citizen
Username: Cat
Post Number: 32
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 - 1:18 am: | |
I resent that implication. No self-respecting feline would ever post something so inane. |
Jurgnz
Citizen
Username: Jurgnz
Post Number: 5
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 - 9:52 am: | |
Am I “catty for a troll?” No, just surprised that no one else had brought it up yet, so I did. But if you have a problem with discussing an issue why aim at the messenger? |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1906
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 - 12:16 pm: | |
Kerry's wife's familiarity with botox is an issue?
Fascinating. |
Dave
Citizen
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6293
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 - 12:26 pm: | |
Sure!
After all, botox has been the only WMD found to date. |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4517
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 - 12:30 pm: | |
If candidate's wives are going to be an issue shouldn't we go over Babs Bushes driving record once again? 
As I said earlier, this is going to be a real dirty election. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1908
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 - 12:31 pm: | |
That ought to wrap up this stupid thread! |
ligeti
Citizen
Username: Ligeti
Post Number: 67
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 - 12:35 pm: | |
No one, Republican or Democrat, could be elected without the support of special interest groups. It's incredibly easy to decide in advance what conclusion you want to reach, then find it in a pol's voting record. It's ultimately meaningless. Dean is a fool for even bringing this up, but then again, he assumes voters are stupid (all pols do, of course; it's the most important element of Bush's re-election strategy).
I read something interesting a few weeks ago. Something like 90% of all the money the drug companies dole out to politicians goes to Republicans. The dems would take it if offered, of course, but for some reason the drug companies think dems are against criminally-high prices for prescription drugs. |
Cowboy
Citizen
Username: Cowboy
Post Number: 323
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 9:44 am: | |
Not quite wrapped up yet tom...
You knew there was no way John F. Kerry was going to stay lily-white forever. Now it's time for the front-runner to get the scrutiny. If the Kerry campaign thought they were blindsided by the Botox rumors, then they had better get ready. First up: a charge that Kerry blocked legislation before the Senate in exchange for contributions from a big insurance company. This makes Halliburton look like a bike ride.
It seems back in 2000, the junior Senator from Massachusetts blocked legislation so he could keep open a loophole allowing AIG (the big insurance company) to divert millions from the nation's most expensive construction project. Turns out in 1999, a Transportation Department investigation found that AIG was overpaid $129.8 million for worker's compensation and insurance on "The Big Dig" in Boston that was not needed. Outraged at these findings, Senator John McCain proposed legislation stripping $150 million from the project and banning the future practice of such hijinks. But then Kerry intervened and got McCain to settle for a hearing instead, where the issue died. Boy, when a big campaign contributor needs a favor, this guy really steps up.
How was Kerry rewarded for his actions? We should all be so lucky. AIG paid Kerry's way on a trip to Vermont. They donated $30,000 to a tax-exempt group Kerry used to set up his presidential campaign. Company executives also donated $18,000 to his Senate and presidential campaigns. And on and on. Stinks to high heaven, doesn't it?
Of course, the Democrats' golden boy denies all this. According to his campaign spokeswoman: "John Kerry has long supported getting special interest money out of the political system." Yeah right. What a load. Imagine all the other sleazy tidbits we're going to find out in the coming months.
It's going to be a great year. I can hardly stand it.
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bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4556
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 9:52 am: | |
Mildly embarassing at best. The underlying situation was essentially a billing dispute between AIG and Bechtel as respects a loss fund for paying losses, which happens all the time. The dispute was threatening to further hold up the "Big Dig", which no Massachussetts politician can afford to do.
I don't think Kerry was really smart in accepting the donations so soon after the dispute to be honest. Has AIG contributed to Kerry's campaigns before this? |
anon
Citizen
Username: Anon
Post Number: 956
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, February 7, 2004 - 1:52 pm: | |
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Any Presdential candidate who attacks another's fund raising is a fool.
With soldiers dying in Iraq, and the economy not yet recovered all we need is a campaign of personal attacks. Perhaps the success of the little known John Edwards shows that voters are finally getting fed up with negativity. |
Diversity Man
Citizen
Username: Deadwhitemale
Post Number: 615
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 7, 2004 - 2:25 pm: | |
Read today's NYT's Brooks' column on Kerry the special interest king.
With specific examples.
Another Washington insider.
Who marries money, as often as possible.
John Forbes Kerry.
Just like us.
DWM
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 524
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, February 7, 2004 - 5:22 pm: | |
"Kerry Ranks Near Bottom in Senate on Money From PACs and Lobbyists
Statement from Nick Nyhart, Executive Director of Public Campaign Action Fund; Chellie Pingree, President of Common Cause; and Joan Claybrook, President of Public Citizen
According to a Jan. 31 Washington Post story, presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) is beholden to the very special interests he says he will dismiss from the White House if elected. The Post based its erroneous conclusion on an analysis of the money Kerry has raised from lobbyists while he was a senator.
But the Post paints an inaccurate picture using an arbitrary statistic. A more accurate indicator of whether a candidate has ties to special interests is whether that candidate receives political action committee (PAC) as well as lobbyist money, and if so, how much. An analysis of PAC and lobbying contributions combined shows Kerry is near the bottom in receiving such funds when PAC money is averaged from 1993 through the present and lobbyist money is averaged from 1990 through present. Further, the lobbyist money that Kerry has taken in the presidential campaign is less than 1 percent of his total money raised."
Full text here:
http://www.publiccitizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1639 |
Cowboy
Citizen
Username: Cowboy
Post Number: 333
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 5:01 pm: | |
Dr. WOB says, "The Post based its erroneous conclusion on an analysis of the money Kerry has raised from lobbyists while he was a senator."
Well then our dear Dr. what other job descrpition would you prefer was used instead for Mr. John (JFK-Heinz) Kerry?
Oh, I see, you'd rather see something like using only the "PAC money averaged from 1993 through the present." Or perhaps only the 1% of funds raised during his limited presidential campaign.
Give us all a break. Kerry is presenting himself to be something he is not. The man is looking a lot like a limosine liberal, who gets supplied with money from rich wives and special interest groups.
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tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 1946
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 7:39 pm: | |
I know it would please you if Dems ran with only the money they found in the sofa cushions, as an assurance of Rep hegemony forever, but that's obviously not the way it is.
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