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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 653
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 12:40 pm: |     |
I’ll start this by saying I’m voting for Bush.
Who do you want to see running against Bush?
I don’t think that Kerry has a chance to beat Bush so I think that Kerry would be good, but if by some chance the Democrats win I would prefer Edwards.
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Michael Janay
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Username: Childprotect
Post Number: 163
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 12:52 pm: | |
I was hoping for Dean... I would have loved to see the landslide Bush victory. If its Kerry, It'll be a Bush victory by 2-3 points.
Edwards is an attractive guy, but not strong enough as a leader, and the whole 2 Americas rhetoric drives me crazy (not that he is the only one spouting it).
If there had to be a democrat in the Whitehouse, I'd like John Breaux, not that he is running, but he is a guy that really could beat Bush, and do a good job in office. |
Sylad
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Username: Sylad
Post Number: 187
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 1:03 pm: | |
Kerry for many reasons, first off he has hardly ever governed, two years a Lieutenant Governor, his voting record contradicts many of the issues he is campaigning on and for a fourth term Senator the legislation that he has introduced and sponsored is pretty irrelevant. He does not even hold a committee chair.
I would like to see Kerry go head to head with President Bush, an extreme far left liberal against a compassionate conservative. Kerry’s agenda is almost the complete opposite of the President’s so it should be easy for people to pick between them. My only hope is that ALL voters examine all the issues and vote for the best person for our country and the world. Don’t vote against one or the other, vote for the best person for the country and the world
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parkbench87
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Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 368
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 1:11 pm: | |
Was this thread really supposed to be posted on www.seanhannity.com? You can't actually believe these Far Left Liberal/Compassionate Conservative labels?
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Sylad
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Username: Sylad
Post Number: 188
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 1:22 pm: | |
From Today's New York Post
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17337.htm
February 5, 2004 -- BOSTON
ONE of the surest ways to get the phones ringing on any Massachusetts talk-radio show is to ask people to call in and tell their John Kerry stories. The phone lines are soon filled, and most of the stories have a common theme: our junior senator pulling rank on one of his constituents, breaking in line, demanding to pay less (or nothing) or ducking out before the bill arrives.
The tales often have one other common thread. Most end with Sen. Kerry inquiring of the lesser mortal: "Do you know who I am?"
And now he's running for president as a populist. His first wife came from a Philadelphia Main Line family worth $300 million. His second wife is a pickle-and-ketchup heiress.
Kerry lives in a mansion on Beacon Hill on which he has borrowed $6 million to finance his campaign. A fire hydrant that prevented him and his wife from parking their SUV in front of their tony digs was removed by the city of Boston at his behest.
The Kerrys ski at a spa the widow Heinz owns in Aspen, and they summer on Nantucket in a sprawling seaside "cottage" on Hurlbert Avenue, which is so well-appointed that at a recent fund-raiser, they imported porta-toilets onto the front lawn so the donors wouldn't use the inside bathrooms. (They later claimed the decision was made on septic, not social, considerations).
It's a wonderful life these days for John Kerry. He sails Nantucket Sound in "the Scaramouche," a 42-foot Hinckley powerboat. Martha Stewart has a similar boat; the no-frills model reportedly starts at $695,000. Sen. Kerry bought it new, for cash.
Every Tuesday night, the local politicians here that Kerry elbowed out of his way on his march to the top watch, fascinated, as he claims victory in more primaries and denounces the special interests, the "millionaires" and "the overprivileged."
"His initials are JFK," longtime state Senate President William M. Bulger used to muse on St. Patrick's Day, "Just for Kerry. He's only Irish every sixth year." And now it turns out that he's not Irish at all.
But in the parochial world of Bay State politics, he was never really seen as Irish, even when he was claiming to be (although now, of course, he says that any references to his alleged Hibernian heritage were mistakenly put into the Congressional Record by an aide who apparently didn't know that on his paternal side he is, in fact, part-Jewish).
Kerry is, in fact, a Brahmin - his mother was a Forbes, from one of Massachusetts' oldest WASP families. The ancestor who wed Ralph Waldo Emerson's daughter was marrying down.
At the risk of engaging in ethnic stereotyping, Yankees have a reputation for, shall we say, frugality. And Kerry tosses around quarters like they were manhole covers. In 1993, for instance, living on a senator's salary of about $100,000, he managed to give a total of $135 to charity.
Yet that same year, he was somehow able to scrape together $8,600 for a brand-new, imported Italian motorcycle, a Ducati Paso 907 IE. He kept it for years, until he decided to run for president, at which time he traded it in for a Harley-Davidson like the one he rode onto "The Tonight Show" set a couple of months ago as Jay Leno applauded his fellow Bay Stater.
Of course, in 1993 he was between his first and second heiresses - a time he now calls "the wandering years," although an equally apt description might be "the freeloading years."
For some of the time, he was, for all practical purposes, homeless. His friends allowed him into a real-estate deal in which he flipped a condo for quick resale, netting a $21,000 profit on a cash investment of exactly nothing. For months he rode around in a new car supplied by a shady local Buick dealer. When the dealer's ties to a congressman who was later indicted for racketeering were exposed, Kerry quickly explained that the non-payment was a mere oversight, and wrote out a check.
In the Senate, his record of his constituent services has been lackluster, and most of his colleagues, despite their public support, are hard-pressed to list an accomplishment. Just last fall, a Boston TV reporter ambushed three congressmen with the question, name something John Kerry has accomplished in Congress. After a few nervous giggles, two could think of nothing, and a third mentioned a baseball field, and then misidentified Kerry as "Sen. Kennedy."
Many of his constituents see him in person only when he is cutting them in line - at an airport, a clam shack or the Registry of Motor Vehicles. One talk-show caller a few weeks back recalled standing behind a police barricade in 2002 as the Rolling Stones played the Orpheum Theater, a short limousine ride from Kerry's Louisburg Square mansion.
The caller, Jay, said he began heckling Kerry and his wife as they attempted to enter the theater. Finally, he said, the senator turned to him and asked him the eternal question.
"Do you know who I am?"
"Yeah," said Jay. "You're a gold-digger."
John Kerry. First he looks at the purse.
Howie Carr, a Boston Herald columnist and syndicated talk-radio host, has been covering John Kerry for 25 years.
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Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 6312
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 1:32 pm: | |
"His second wife is a pickle-and-ketchup heiress"
Ever try Brent Crude on your burger?  |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1506
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 3:03 pm: | |
being from boston I can tell ya Howie Carr is an idiot and has had it in for Kerry ever since 1980. He worked hard to find the people he quoted in his "article." While some of it may be true it would be like trying to find reason and truth in an article by Rush about a democrat with a prescription pill problem. Aint gonna happen.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky |
mfpark
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Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 192
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 3:21 pm: | |
In Boston, some journalists aspire to be like Mike Barnicle--always somehow managed to find the perfect quote, the perfect story. So what if he made them up, someone might have really said it at some point somewhere.
That being said, as a Democrat I cringe to think what Kerry will face against Bush. The smear stuff Carr is writing here ain't nothing compared to what will fly about Kerry--Carr does not even get into late night carousing with Teddy. The conservative whacko radio show hosts will have a field day. |
Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 659
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 3:25 pm: | |
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court07040
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Username: Court07040
Post Number: 33
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 3:27 pm: | |
I don't think this will be an advantage to Bush, since he also hails from a privileged background. Kennebunkport ain't no time share, folks.
The sad fact is that most politicians are millionaires and hence, out of touch of "regular people." The Joe Lieberman-type guy is becoming more and more the exception. |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 849
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 4:09 pm: | |
I reject the contention that millionaires are out of touch with 'regular people.' Most millionaires earned their wealth, and from middle class beginnings or less. Don't slime them by putting them in the same sentence as politicians. |
court07040
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Username: Court07040
Post Number: 35
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 6:51 pm: | |
good point. I guess most politicians are just slime balls that happen to also be millionaires. |
gemini
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Username: Gemini
Post Number: 275
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 7:25 pm: | |
Hey we don't go on the "ask a liberal thread"  |
Ukealalio
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Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 425
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 9:25 am: | |
Compassionate Conservative ?, you gotta be kidding. |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 858
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 3:22 pm: | |
Keep telling yourself liberals are compassionate, and you can continue to believe it so long as you don't look at their results -- just their intentions. |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 953
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 9:28 pm: | |
I wonder if "Most millionaires earned their wealth". Statistically how many of the rich are rich due to inheritance as opposed to being "self made"?
And if Edwards is the Dem nominee the right will attack him for the way he made his money.
As to Edwards wife being a "ketchup and pickle heiress" she is the widow of REPUBLICAN Senator Heinz. |
viva
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Username: Viva
Post Number: 351
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 10:17 pm: | |
from salon.com
"Is America Ready for the Wild Kerry Family/"
http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2004/02/03/kerry_heinz/index1.html |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 2040
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 11:04 pm: | |
Most of us can attribute our relative success to our backgrounds. The amount of education we get is largely a function of the amount our parents expected us to get. The skills of network and job seeking comes from our socio-economic background, as does the types of jobs and opportunities we seek. The influence ends up being a big bag of opportunities we can't even take inventory of.
Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
There is nothing
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