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kathy
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Username: Kathy
Post Number: 739
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 5:39 pm: |     |
Big news of the day on AOL:
Pundit O'Reilly Now Skeptical About Bush
AP
WASHINGTON (Feb. 10) - Conservative television news anchor Bill O'Reilly said on Tuesday he was now skeptical about the Bush administration and apologized to viewers for supporting prewar claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
The anchor of his own show on Fox News said he was sorry he gave the U.S. government the benefit of the doubt that former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's weapons program poised an imminent threat, the main reason cited for going to war.
"I was wrong. I am not pleased about it at all and I think all Americans should be concerned about this," O'Reilly said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America."
"What do you want me to do, go over and kiss the camera?" asked O'Reilly, who had promised rival ABC last year he would publicly apologize if weapons were not found.
O'Reilly said he was "much more skeptical about the Bush administration now" since former weapons inspector David Kay said he did not think Saddam had any weapons of mass destruction.
While critical of President Bush, O'Reilly said he did not think the president intentionally lied. Rather, O'Reilly blamed CIA Director George Tenet, who was appointed by former President Bill Clinton.
Of course it all turns out to be Bill Clinton's fault 
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Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 6371
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 6:05 pm: | |
A lot of the right wing wackos aren't happy with Bush. They actually think he's too liberal. Same people who caused Bush Sr. to resign from the NRA after hearing their hate speech. |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 961
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 8:50 pm: | |
If Bush loses in November the ultra-right will say it was because he wasn't conservative enough! |
Grateful Straw
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1917
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 9:30 pm: | |
You people make me sick...O'Reilly as is the case with most Americans is pissed at our intelligence. He is pissed at George Tenet. Why this Clinton hand picked appointee still has a job is a mystery. I guess Bush is a loyal guy but enough is enough.
George W, get rid of Clinton's idiotic people once and for all.
Me? I'm just happy Hussein is gone.
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tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 1947
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:11 pm: | |
yeah, get  in there instead. |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 527
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:40 pm: | |
maybe I should be president.
I sit here with a PC and Google, and this time last year I knew these things:
1) Iraq and al Qaeda had meetings, but could never agree to work together. Thus, Iraq was not responsible for 9/11.
2) Every indication was that no large stockpiles of WMD existed in Iraq by early 2003.
But poor W was bamboozled by the CIA. I guess I should have sent him the URLs of the stuff I was reading. |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1514
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 8:30 am: | |
Hey Doc.. what makes you think a guy who admittedly doesnt even bother with the news paper would read any ole URL's. Its just easier to be spoonfed your info.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky |
Grateful Straw
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1918
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 8:39 am: | |
Duncan,
Your last post is a new low for you. Spoon fed? By whom? The FBI, CIA Justice Dept. State Dept. etc. etc. etc. I mean enough is enough. You people and your childish rantings, constantly poking fun at the very serious nature of the war on terror can be hard to stomach at times.
Especially for patriotic Americans like me.
Look for awhile at the China Cat Sunflower proud-walking jingle in the midnight sun Copper-dome Bodhi drip a silver kimono like a crazy-quilt stargown through a dream night wind.
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1515
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:05 am: | |
Straw..easy there. The man admits he gets his information from others. He DOES NOT READ THE NEWSPAPER. So information is "spoonfed" to him by advisors. That is just a fact, indisputable. You may take issue with the word spoonfed, but its connotation is what bothers you. Bush could choose to spit out what is fed. Wish he would sometimes. And despite what you may have inferred I was not speaking exclusively of the "war on terror". He is regurgitating some questionable economic data as well.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 528
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:11 am: | |
I guess maybe the CIA needs a subscription to Scotland's Sunday Herald. If they had one, on September 8, 2002, they could have read this:
"Scott Ritter, the UN's former chief weapons inspector in Iraq, says the United Nations des troyed most of Iraq's wea pons of mass destruction and doubts that Saddam could have rebuilt his stocks by now. According to Ritter, between 90% and 95% of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were des troyed by the UN. He believes the remainder were probably used or destroyed during 'the ravages of the Gulf War'. Ritter has described himself as a 'card-carrying Republican' who voted for George W Bush. Nevertheless, he has called the president a 'liar' over his claims that Saddam Hussein is a threat to America. Ritter has also alleged that the manufacture of chemical and biological weapons emits certain gases, which would have been detected by satellite. 'We have seen none of this,' he insists. 'If Iraq was producing weapons today, we would have definitive proof.' He also dismisses claims that Iraq may have a nuclear weapons capacity or be on the verge of attaining one, saying that gamma-particle atomic radiation from the radioactive materials in the warheads would also have been detected by western surveillance.
"The UN's former co-ordinator in Iraq and former UN under-secretary general, Count Hans von Sponeck, has also told the Sunday Herald that he believes the West is lying about Iraq's weapons programme. Von Sponeck visited the Al-Dora and Faluja factories near Baghdad in 1999 after they were 'comprehensively trashed' on the orders of UN inspectors, on the grounds that they were suspected of being chemical weapons plants. He returned to the site late in July this year, with a German TV crew, and said both plants were still wrecked. 'We filmed the evidence of the dishonesty of the claims that they were producing chemical and biological weapons,' von Sponeck has told the Sunday Herald. 'They are indeed in the same destroyed state which we witnessed in 1999. There was no trace of any resumed activity at all.'"
At the time, Ritter was vilified for saying these things, but history seems to have proven him right.
And I remember reading this, because I've got high-speed internet access. Maybe someone should clue the White House in to this wonderful invention.
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Grateful Straw
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1919
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:17 am: | |
advisors?
You have got to be kidding, right? Since when is the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, The head of the CIA and the FBI referred to as "advisors?"
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guycaruso
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Username: Guycaruso
Post Number: 32
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:20 am: | |
Perhaps Bush should have listened to John Kerry:
In a lengthy speech on the Senate floor on Oct. 9, 2002, Kerry declared that "in the four years since UNSCOM inspectors were forced out [of Iraq], Saddam Hussein has continued his quest for weapons of mass destruction."
And not just his quest: Kerry told the Senate that Saddam "has chemical and biological weapons, as well as missiles with ranges in excess of the 150 kilometers restriction imposed by the United Nations."
Moreover, he said, "Iraq has maintained its chemical weapons effort over the last four years."
Then Kerry declared that "a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region."
And he added that "it would be naive to the point of grave danger not to believe that, left to his own devices, Saddam Hussein will provoke, misjudge or stumble into a future, more dangerous confrontation with the civilized world."
Even the fact that the Bush administration hadn't conclusively linked Saddam directly to the events of 9/11 didn't matter to Kerry 16 months ago.
"Can we afford to ignore the possibility that Saddam Hussein might accidentally, as well as purposely, allow those weapons to slide off to one group or other in a region where weapons are the currency of trade? How do we leave that to chance?"
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1516
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:30 am: | |
nice cut and past Guy!!
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky |
guycaruso
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Username: Guycaruso
Post Number: 33
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:39 am: | |
Cut and paste aside, I still haven't heard a good explanation why Bush is being bashed for taking the same position on Iraq as Kerry and other Democrats. |
Grateful Straw
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1920
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:54 am: | |
Kerry has never seen a side to an issue he didn't like.
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1517
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 10:24 am: | |
Thats just it Guy. YOu wont hear one. You will hear people explain the issue. Give examples and then you will just discount it. So what is the point. Petruchio is Bush.. Kate are his followers.
PETRUCHIO
Come on, i' God's name; once more toward our father's.
Good Lord, how bright and goodly shines the moon!
KATHARINA
The moon! the sun: it is not moonlight now.
PETRUCHIO
I say it is the moon that shines so bright.
KATHARINA
I know it is the sun that shines so bright.
PETRUCHIO
Now, by my mother's son, and that's myself,
It shall be moon, or star, or what I list,
Or ere I journey to your father's house.
Go on, and fetch our horses back again.
Evermore cross'd and cross'd; nothing but cross'd!
HORTENSIO
Say as he says, or we shall never go.
KATHARINA
Forward, I pray, since we have come so far,
And be it moon, or sun, or what you please:
An if you please to call it a rush-candle,
Henceforth I vow it shall be so for me.
PETRUCHIO
I say it is the moon.
KATHARINA
I know it is the moon.
PETRUCHIO
Nay, then you lie: it is the blessed sun.
KATHARINA
Then, God be bless'd, it is the blessed sun:
But sun it is not, when you say it is not;
And the moon changes even as your mind.
What you will have it named, even that it is;
And so it shall be so for Katharina.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky |
Grateful Straw
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1921
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 10:30 am: | |
tx Duncan,
Very helpful...
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1519
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 10:31 am: | |
No prob straw, though it is becoming very clear to me that I have too much time on my hands today.
back to work
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 888
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 10:47 am: | |
Ritter -- when not trying to supersize his Whopper in Burger King parking lots with 16 year old girls via the internet (hello....officer?!?!) -- also gave the same Saddam-has-no-WMD to John Kerry. Kerry wasn't interested, and voted for use of force instead.
Anyway..... |
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