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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 2931
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:15 am: | 
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Quote:In his speech, Nagin also said "God is mad at America," in part because he does not approve "of us being in Iraq under false pretenses
From the Mayor of the City of New Orleans
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/17/nagin.city/index.html |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 1877
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:24 am: |
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it's not. |
Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10307
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:25 am: |
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Well he is a Dem and Robertson is a Rep.  |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 8425
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:26 am: |
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Actually, Ray Nagin was a Republican for most of his life. Takes time to wear off I guess. |
Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 726
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:48 am: |
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totally moronic thing to say. Has America fallen that far that we attribute these things to theology and not science.
Science!
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drewdix
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Username: Drewdix
Post Number: 1102
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:53 am: |
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"Science!"
-Lloyd Lindsay Young
(thread drift-sorry- but not to those that watched his weather reports on Ch. 9 news in the 80's) |
notehead
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Username: Notehead
Post Number: 2987
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:13 am: |
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"Science!"
-Thomas Dolby |
Fight the power
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Username: Tookiew
Post Number: 42
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:14 am: |
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Nagin is an idiot. An embarrasment. Pity the poor people of New Orleans. Led locally by a fool, abandoned nationally by an idiot monkey-boy. |
Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 728
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:21 am: |
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stop it, Bush is not a monkey-boy. |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5057
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:39 am: |
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Long as he keeps New Orleans a 'chocolate city', which is how God wanted it.
Nice stuff there. |
Guy
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Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1430
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:47 am: |
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Time to backtrack.
Not dark chocolate , milk chocolate.
Pressed later to explain his comments, Nagin, who is black, told CNN affiliate WDSU-TV that he was referring to creation of a racially diverse city in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, insisting that his remarks were not divisive.
"How do you make chocolate? You take dark chocolate, you mix it with white milk, and it becomes a delicious drink. That is the chocolate I am talking about," he said.
"New Orleans was a chocolate city before Katrina. It is going to be a chocolate city after. How is that divisive? It is white and black working together, coming together and making something special." 
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Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 730
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:56 am: |
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What a moron. |
Guy
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Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1431
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:58 am: |
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Perhaps quoting Seinfeld would have worked better for Nagin:
"The key to eating a black and white cookie, Elaine, is you want to get some black and some white in each bite. Nothing mixes better than vanilla and chocolate. And yet, still, somehow racial harmony eludes us. If people would only look to the cookie. All our problems would be solved."
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Hank Zona
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Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5133
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:16 am: |
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fortunately, most folks believe in a benevolant God. A vengeful God would be awfully pissed off at politicians trying to use His name for votes (and Nagin is up for re-election this year). Nagin also is a former cable company general manager, which would also piss off a vengeful God, Im guessing, and maybe even piss off a benevolant God.
One thing Im unclear about with Nagin's comments... what if someone gets peanut butter on his milk chocolate? |
ML
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Username: Ml1
Post Number: 2906
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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he'd have two great tastes that taste great together. |
Parkbench87
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Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 3313
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:42 am: |
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Twokitties
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Username: Twokitties
Post Number: 357
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:53 am: |
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Stupid thing to say but great album. |
Guy
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Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1432
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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The people of New Orleans provide the milk chocolate while Nagin comes off like a nut. |
LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 2933
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:13 pm: |
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Hey, a whole political thread where Dems and Reps, Neocons and Libs all agree!!
Only on MOL  |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 1880
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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it's because he's a Dem. if he was Republican, we'd find at least one or two of the usual suspects to defend him.
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Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 8428
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:23 pm: |
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I declare SO/M to be "Watchamacallit" towns. |
Parkbench87
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Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 3317
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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http://www.sci.mus.mn.us/sln/tf/c/crosssection/namethatbar.html |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 5607
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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Parkbench..thats a british site and you can tell it from one of the answers. Do you know which one? |
Parkbench87
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Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 3318
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:50 pm: |
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Duncan,
I believe the site belongs to the Science Musuem of Minnesota? What makes you think it's British? |
Hank Zona
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Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5139
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |
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because Prince lives in Minneapolis? |
Stuart0628
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Username: Stuart0628
Post Number: 202
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 1:08 pm: |
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A propos of chocolate, someone in the Big Easy is a few M&Ms short of a package... |
buzzsaw
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Username: Buzzsaw
Post Number: 3560
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:04 pm: |
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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 2935
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 6:23 pm: |
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Mayor Nagin will be on Anderson Cooper's show on CNN at 10pm tonight to (try and) explain his comments. Should be interesting! |
sbenois
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Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 14428
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 7:47 pm: |
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Drewdix,
I think it's fair to say that very few of us watched LLY do the weather. Usually it was only after the latest Met loss. So that's a nice reference there.
No comments from you Hank. |
Foj
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Username: Foger
Post Number: 861
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 8:19 pm: |
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It may have been a slap at Robertson.
Kind makin fun of the dummy. ANd what he represents.
Or -----------Nagin is so imature, he thinks that if Pat Robertson did it-- it must be OK.
AND BTW-- chocolate is typical NOLA verbage amoung NOLA blacks. FYI my white brothers and sisters. |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 5615
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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Park... because the "skittles" are chocolate candies in the UK. I think. |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 4227
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:17 am: |
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Nagin is a numbskull, and no better than Robertson. I believe that God, even though he has an infinite amount of time on his hands, still has better things to do with it than micromanage human affairs. |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1352
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:04 pm: |
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Ah, yes, using the name of God in a political context! Not good! Bad mayad! bad mayor!
Now when you're president and use the name of God in your speeches, and when you talk to Jesus all the time, now that's OK. Nothing wrong with that. That gets you votes. |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1353
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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Ah, yes, using the name of God in a political context! Not good! Bad mayor! bad mayor!
Now when you're president and use the name of God in your speeches, and when you talk to Jesus all the time, now that's OK. Nothing wrong with that. That gets you votes. |
Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 356
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:34 pm: |
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Innisowen-
I thought you were on vacation...and such exaggerations!
It is one thing to talk about God (Bush) and another thing to use God to make asinine statements (Nagin/Robertson).
Welcome to America-you are free to practice your religion-just don't talk about it! |
Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux
Post Number: 272
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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There is nothing interesting about Mr. Nagin. He's an idiot.  |
Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2230
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 1:22 pm: |
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Is it me, or does Nagin look a bit like Montel Williams?
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Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1354
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 4:19 pm: |
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Scrotis:
Hi. Nope, no vacation. Just trying to ski in Vermont with too much rain and hardly enough good snow to make a snowball.
Since we're both up to our old tricks again, let me start the proceedings.
It's one thing for you or me to talk about God, whether we believe or not.
It's another thing (and to my mind, it's rank pandering) for the president to touch his heart and tell us all how Jesus has changed his life.
That's no more than semaphore to the wacko fundamentalist fringe. Next thing you know he'll be performing snake-handling stunts and mimicking glossolalia.
Nothing like taking a stance on issues by thumping the bible and looking pious--- that's a real honest way to deal with political and social issues.
On another issue: Hillary's use of the word "plantation": I quote you---
"Yes! But she is a dem so she won't be held accountable...
imagine if it was a republican who said such words? Off with his/her head!"
Ah, you fell into the manure again.
Newt Gingrich said just the same thing in 1994, except he added something to the effect that "we slaves are going to take over the plantation..."
However, Newt did not apparently get his head lopped off. |
Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 360
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 5:28 pm: |
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Innisowen,
I apologize for all the rain and I have been there (avid snowboarder). Where in VT are you?
My "Hillary" comment was just a sarcastic swipe and I was aware that Newt said the same thing...
And oh, something to ponder while waiting for the white stuff to fall...mentioning how jesus saved your life is not bible thumping...and by criticizing this you are only pandering to your own secular base, whether it be just yourself or your social circles....
I go to church every Sunday and that is about it. May I share a quote?
"… Faith is essential and primary but not a substitute for reason. Instead, faith is the starting point for the liberation of human reason the means by which people can understand what is revealed by faith."
Augustine, Bishop of Hippo, Carthage (354-430)
Right on Gus! |
Stevef
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Username: Stevef
Post Number: 158
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 5:43 pm: |
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"Grant me chastity and continence, but not yet" - Augustine |
Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 362
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 5:53 pm: |
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Steve-LOL |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1358
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:34 pm: |
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Scroto:
part of my background includes 2 years in a Jesuit seminary, and I am still a practicing Catholic (I keep practicing but don't seem to get it right yet).
I am familiar with Augustine, but can't place your quote. Was it from De Diversis quaestionibus ad Simplicianum or De Trinitate? St. Augustine also said that adhesion to God requires divine grace, so I guess in our modern times, he might have said that faith requires a jump start from the divine battery.
As for me, I am more a fan of Thomas Aquinas.
I have a place in southeastern VT just near Shaftsbury. And it was pissy weather.
As to your other comment, I'll agree to disagree. I find it to be outrageous pandering to thump the bible for votes. It's bad faith, it marginalizes and minimizes people who aren't Christians (since I never hear GWB quoting anything but the new testament) or who choose not to believe in a god. |
Foj
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Username: Foger
Post Number: 872
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 8:47 pm: |
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Revelations- is it in the new testament?
All that END TIMES stuff? |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1360
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 9:28 pm: |
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revelations is in the gospel of john, new testament, also called the book of the apocalypse.
I think I should find a bible to thump--- seems to be a sure way to get elected to public office these days.
Amen and halleluiah! |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 4228
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 9:37 pm: |
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The Gospel of John and Revelations are two different books in the New Testament. John's Gospel is his recounting of the story of Christ; Revelations is an account of a vision he had while in exile as an old man, the story of the end of the world. |
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