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Scrotis Lo Knows
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 597
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 1:23 pm: | 
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Will she ever just sit down and shutup?
Caracas, Venezuela – Gold star mother Cindy Sheehan has decided to run against California Senator Diane Feinstein if Feinstein does not filibuster the Supreme Court nomination of Judge Samuel Alito. While in Venezuela attending the World Social Forum, Sheehan learned that several Democratic Senators had announced their plans for a filibuster but that Senator Feinstein, who’s up for re-election in November, had stated she would vote against the nomination but not filibuster it. "I’m appalled that Diane Feinstein wouldn’t recognize how dangerous Alito’s nomination is to upholding the values of our constitution and restricting the usurpation of presidential powers, for which I’ve already paid the ultimate price," Sheehan said.
Sheehan is the grieving military mother whose vigil outside President Bush’s ranch in Crawford last summer focused the nation’s attention on the human cost of the Iraq war. Her son Casey was killed in Iraq in April 2004.
Judge Alito has an extensive paper trail documenting the right-wing political agenda that he has actively advanced, not only as a high-ranking official in the Reagan Administration, but also as a judge. He has publicly supported the "Unitary Executive" theory, a radical notion that the President holds exclusive and inherent authority to execute all federal law. He has supported efforts to curtail privacy rights, including not only privacy from government surveillance and arbitrary arrest, but also other constitutional rights based on privacy, such as reproductive liberty for women. Alito has outspokenly sought to restrict Congress' power, limiting the scope of the Commerce Clause of Article I of the Constitution. In addition, he has consistently applied his discretion as a judge in favor of certain interests and against others. He rarely votes against big business, police or prosecutors.
Sheehan is available for interviews from Venezuela through the contact people listed above. She returns to the United States on Monday morning and will travel to Washington, DC on Tuesday to participate in an alternative State of the Union event.
Start a Revolution or shut the hell up...
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The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1453
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 1:30 pm: |
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while i sympathised with her plight, she has really come across as someone who has forgotten her point and now will do anything to remain in the limelight.
Complaining isnt activism.
stop bitching on the internet and do something about it!
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cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5100
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 1:45 pm: |
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She's a mom who lost her son in the war, deserving of sympathy, and a complete wacko.
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The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1454
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 1:49 pm: |
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isnt that what i said?
Complaining isnt activism.
stop bitching on the internet and do something about it!
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cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5101
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 1:56 pm: |
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Plenty of people forget their original points and seek the spotlight without being a wacko. |
Twokitties
Citizen
Username: Twokitties
Post Number: 374
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 1:57 pm: |
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I hate to say it but I agree. Too far. Enough. |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 52
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 1:57 pm: |
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She lost her son at war. That is a shame for her and I'm sorry for her loss. But she took her eyes off the prize and has gone too wacko. She should have continued to ask what noble cause her son died for and kept everyone discussing whether Iraq was a mistake. |
Eats Shoots & Leaves
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 2956
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 1:59 pm: |
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She is becoming the Ann Coulter of the left. |
tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 3999
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 2:26 pm: |
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Scrotis and Libertarian - can we have some consistency. You are complaining endlessly about people who complain and do nothing.
Now, Cindy Sheehan is trying to make a difference and you are complaining about that.
Criticize her point of view, but don't criticize her for running for elected office. |
cmontyburns
Citizen
Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 1721
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 3:26 pm: |
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She's not running for elected office. She's saying she'll run if and only if someone doesn't filibuster a supreme court nominee. Ignoring for a moment the lack of any real connection between Alito and Iraq, how seriously can you take a campaign that hinges on a threat?
Either she wants to serve the people of her state or she doesn't. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1457
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 3:28 pm: |
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Now, Cindy Sheehan is trying to make a difference and you are complaining about that.
Criticize her point of view, but don't criticize her for running for elected office.
i wasnt complaining. i was voicing my opinion on her motives.
Complaining isnt activism.
stop bitching on the internet and do something about it!
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tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4002
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 3:32 pm: |
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Good point. I have yet to see anybody complaining on MOL - just voicing opinions using the full range of the English language. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1459
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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I have yet to see anybody complaining on MOL
then you are not actually reading MOL. check your browser.
Complaining isnt activism.
stop bitching on the internet and do something about it!
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 1895
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 4:16 pm: |
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cmonty,
I don't see why "making a threat" would invalidate someone's candidacy. Why shouldn't someone "threaten" their respresentative in the Senate with opposition if that person doesn't properly represent her state - especially on an issue as important as a lifetime appointment to the SCOTUS? The people of CA ostensibly elected Feinstein to be a Democrat and oppose a president - a man the same voters roundly rejected. If the voters believe the opposite, that Feinstein is representing their wishes, they'll return her to the Senate. If they believe as Sheehan does that Feinstein doesn't they'll consider voting for an opponent in the Democratic primary.
nothing wrong with that. |
Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 801
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 4:56 pm: |
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And why is it that Cindy Sheehan is only allowed to speak about Iraq? Last I checked she is an American citizen (not to mention a public figure), and she is entitled to as many opinions on as many subjects •••••• likes. She's even allowed, no matter what you think of her ability, to run for office (see: Schwarzenegger, Arnold).
And you just gotta love the first post on this thread, which opens with:
Quote:Will she ever just sit down and shutup?
and closes with:
Quote:Start a Revolution or shut the hell up...
Uh, gee, Scrotis, I guess she's trying to start a revolution. Didn't know revolutionaries needed you to sign off before going ahead. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1467
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 5:02 pm: |
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And why is it that Cindy Sheehan is only allowed to speak about Iraq? Last I checked she is an American citizen (not to mention a public figure), and she is entitled to as many opinions on as many subjects •••••• likes.
as americans, please excuse us for exercising the same rights by questioning her motives and voicing our opinions on her actions.
Complaining isnt activism.
stop bitching on the internet and do something about it!
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tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4003
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 5:05 pm: |
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Libertarian,
stop bitching on the internet and do something about it! Go to California and put a sock in her mouth.
I guess Scrotis and Libertarian just enjoy complaining about complaining. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1469
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 5:07 pm: |
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nice comeback. you really put forth an intelligent and rational point. kudos to you!
Complaining isnt activism.
stop bitching on the internet and do something about it!
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Scrotis Lo Knows
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 600
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 5:41 pm: |
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Madden 11-
Silly rabbit, just because I want people to revolt or shutup does not mean I have to agree with what they are revolting over.
No need for me to sign off on revolutions but I will sure have my opinions on them? Why? Hint: Because I am an opinionated a**hole! 
Yet, I do give her some credit, as least she is trying to do something unlike alot of whiners on this board....but it's to bad her true message got clouded so long ago....
-SLK
Start a Revolution or shut the hell up...
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cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5106
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 9:31 pm: |
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http://www.nbc11.com/news/6634368/detail.html
Start your watches again! |
Scrotis Lo Knows
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 601
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 7:55 am: |
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Thank you for illustrating my point last night Cindy. If you are invited to such a function, at least try to show some civilty....talk about intolerance....
WASHINGTON
Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a fallen soldier in Iraq who reinvigorated the anti-war movement, was arrested and removed from the House gallery Tuesday night just before President Bush's State of the Union address, a police spokeswoman said.
Sheehan, who was invited to attend the speech by Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D- Calif., was charged with demonstrating in the Capitol building, said Capitol Police Sgt. Kimberly Schneider. The charge was later changed to unlawful conduct, Schneider said. Both charges are misdemeanors.
Sheehan was taken in handcuffs from the Capitol to police headquarters a few blocks away. Her case was processed as Bush spoke.
Schneider said Sheehan had worn a T-shirt with an anti-war slogan to the speech and covered it up until she took her seat. Police warned her that such displays were not allowed, but she did not respond, the spokeswoman said.
Police handcuffed Sheehan and removed her from the gallery before Bush arrived. Sheehan was to be released on her own recognizance, Schneider said.
"I'm proud that Cindy's my guest tonight," Woolsey said in an interview before the speech. "She has made a difference in the debate to bring our troops home from Iraq."
Woolsey offered Sheehan a ticket to the speech _ Gallery 5, seat 7, row A _ earlier Tuesday while Sheehan was attending an "alternative state of the union" press conference by CODEPINK, a group pushing for an end to the Iraq war.
Sheehan, wrapped in a bright pink scarf against the cold, protested outside the White House with a handful of others before heading to the Capitol Tuesday evening. There were no cameras around, but the small band faced the executive mansion and repeatedly shouted, "You're evicted! Get out of our house!"
Sheehan was arrested in September with about 300 other anti-war activists in front of the White House after a weekend of protests against the war in Iraq. In August, she spent 26 days camped near Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, where he was spending a working vacation.
Start a Revolution or shut the hell up...
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Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 802
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 10:53 pm: |
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Good ol' Scrotis...he never lets the facts get in the way of an opinion:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060202/ap_on_go_co/state_of_union_sheehan_13
Quote:WASHINGTON - Capitol Police dropped a charge of unlawful conduct against anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan on Wednesday and apologized for ejecting her and a congressman's wife from President Bush's State of the Union address for wearing T-shirts with war messages.
"The officers made a good faith, but mistaken effort to enforce an old unwritten interpretation of the prohibitions about demonstrating in the Capitol," Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer said in a statement late Wednesday.
That's right, folks...wearing a t-shirt is uncivilized and intolerant according to Scrotis. Could there be more to the story? Is such a thing possible? Not in Scrotis-land.
Also tossed out of the speech for a questionable t-shirt...the wife of a REPUBLICAN representative. I guess she's every bit as wild and dangerous as Cindy Sheehan, isn't she?
T-shirts! T-shirts, I tell you! What kind of crazy, volatile rabble-rousers would have the nerve to wear a t-shirt? I say lock them both up, and throw away the key.
(whew...it's hard work laying it on that thick) |
Scrotis Lo Knows
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 609
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:13 am: |
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Madden 11-
I am talking about showing respect and tolerance and remaining civil, especially among those who you disagree with for 60 minutes. Is that so hard to do?
Yet again, you seem to have a difficult time doing the same so you may not understand....
Cindy already had her own numerous "STOTUs" around the world. Whether you agree/like Bush or not, it was HIS night at the podium as constitutionally required of him to do.
Oh poor Cindy, what was she expecting wearing such a t-shirt? Oh dear, being out of the limelight must really be nerve-wracking....
Both t-shirt wearing chicks were right to be removed (which shows they have an objective policy)....funny how you don't hear the Republican rep's wife making such a hoopla...
Sheehan definitely caught on to the MIchael Moore school of economics...
Start a Revolution or shut the hell up...
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Nohero
Supporter
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5020
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:39 am: |
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"....funny how you don't hear the Republican rep's wife making such a hoopla... " Funny, but the Representative did make "such a hoopla" yesterday on the floor of the House.
Quote:Congressman Bill Young of Florida is hopping mad that his wife was ejected from last night's presidential speech for wearing a T-Shirt urging support for U.S. troops.
Standing in the well of the House chamber, Young held up the T-shirt , which read "Support the Troops -- Defending Our Freedom."
Young says his wife was told she was removed because "she was a protester."
Young's wife told the St. Petersburg Times that she responded to that by saying "Then you are an idiot."
Link - http://www.wbir.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=31755
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Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10509
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:59 am: |
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Cindy who had done a great job of marginalizing herself what with her support for Hugo Chavez and every left wing loony idea that came down the pike just got a lot of our sympathy again.
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Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 803
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 10:29 am: |
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I am talking about showing respect and tolerance and remaining civil, especially among those who you disagree with for 60 minutes. Is that so hard to do?
Yet again, you seem to have a difficult time doing the same so you may not understand....
I think you might be right...I happen to be wearing a t-shirt at this very moment. Pretty disrespectful...someone call the cops!
Both t-shirt wearing chicks were right to be removed (which shows they have an objective policy)
Actually, it shows that they misunderstood the Rep's wife's t-shirt. They only booted her because they thought it was anti-war (see Nohero's post above).
Honestly, do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound? You want people to be ARRESTED, as in TAKEN DOWNTOWN, for wearing a t-shirt with a political message on it. Patriots like you would be a big hit over in China (or in Hussein's Iraq, for that matter).
You can't really believe that that's the right thing to do...to arrest people for political statements. You might want to consider the possibility that you are shaping events to fit your opinions, when most people shape their opinions based on events.
And I continue to be more appalled than anything else at people who seem to take such pleasure in tearing down a woman who has been through what Cindy Sheehan has been through. I understand supporting the war, I understand disagreeing with Cindy Sheehan, but the sheer joy some people show in their abuse of her really turns my stomach. And it makes me wonder what (if anything) those people have sacrificed for this effort... |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5121
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
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The pleasure isn't about tearing down Cindy -- her arguments went up in flames long ago. The pleasure is her face and place in the Democrat Mainstream and how ridiculous it makes those who once rushed to her side in their hate of Bush who now realize she and her kind are serious baggage to any hopes of a return to power.
Belafonte is my second favorite. |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 59
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 1:31 pm: |
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Her arguments did not go up in flames long ago, particularly with respect to the War in Iraq. She has, however, stopped focusing on that issue and has not helped her cause or stature by venturing into other areas and aligning herself with some on the far left. If she had stuck to Iraq and her son's death she would be viewed with more respect and have retained more sympathy. |
Scrotis Lo Knows
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 612
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 1:31 pm: |
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Madden 11-
There is a right time and place to express your political statements, a SOTU you were invited to does not qualify.
In case you haven't noticed, Cindy brings everything upon herself with her extreme positions. Geez, after her husband divorcing her and her family putting distance between them and her you would think she would get the point....
Oh poor Cindy, all that "she has been through..." you mean her son dying in Iraq on his third tour he volunteered for? He made this choice and she should respect that... |
Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 804
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 2:20 pm: |
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There is a right time and place to express your political statements, a SOTU you were invited to does not qualify.
How lucky we are to have you to tell us when opinion is and isn't allowed. Unfortunately, the GOP didn't set up one of those nifty "free speech zones" miles from the event like they usually do.
I also find it interesting that you think it's okay to arrest someone for being, at the very worst, impolite. There are some clear implications for MOL if that becomes the law of the land.
In case you haven't noticed, Cindy brings everything upon herself with her extreme positions.
In case YOU haven't noticed, the majority of Americans agree with the "extreme position" on Cindy's t-shirt. What a crazy bunch of extremists they all must be!
Geez, after her husband divorcing her and her family putting distance between them and her you would think she would get the point....
I bet you just LOVED that, didn't you? The sight of a family torn apart by a senseless and preventable tragedy...that's like a steak dinner to someone like you. What kind of a sick, sick person takes such joy in mocking someone else's hardships?
Oh poor Cindy, all that "she has been through..." you mean her son dying in Iraq on his third tour he volunteered for? He made this choice and she should respect that...
Oh, I see. His mother shouldn't feel any pain, because he volunteered. Got it. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1507
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 2:28 pm: |
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correct me if i am wrong, but i sense alot of sarcasm in your post. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5126
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 2:46 pm: |
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Madden, the American public does not believe in Cindy's position of complete and immediate withdrawal from Iraq. So too, they don't agree with Cindy that we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan. They don't believe Bush is a terrorist. And then she cries foul when the media scrutinizes her positions.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 613
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 3:06 pm: |
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or how about hanging with Chavez and agreeing with Belafonte....or her Anti-Israel rants....yeah she sure is mainstream....
Madden 11 you are hopeless....and hopefully one day you will get your nose out your left wing instruction manual on life and start facing reality....
Let me put the SOTU matter in a different perspective. Let say a popular person in town dies-let's name him Joe. Not so much famous/celebrity type, but just someone who knew alot of fellow townspeople...but guess what, I can't stand and have problem saying so...well, his wake is packed with all his friends and family...do you think it would be right, even respectful for me to march right into the middle of sad event wearing a t-shirt stating "Joe is an A8*HOLE"? Now I have right to say and protest this all I want, but do you think this is a cool thing to do? Or wouldn't be better if I refrained from such opinions and either go the wake and pay my respects or just don't go all together....
Now Madden 11, I know a SOTU and a wake are two different things, but the point I am making is the same. There is a right time and place to state your opinions....
But I will humbly await your predictable cut and paste retort on my post....I'll just start calling you Mr. Originality...
And no I don't find a family torn apart enjoyable...
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Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 805
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 5:31 pm: |
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or how about hanging with Chavez and agreeing with Belafonte....or her Anti-Israel rants....yeah she sure is mainstream....
I didn't say they (or even I) agree with all her positions (many of which have been distorted and misrepresented in the media), just the position on her shirt, which was:
"2,245 Dead. How Many More?"
Try reading my posts a little closer next time, if you're able.
Madden 11 you are hopeless....and hopefully one day you will get your nose out your left wing instruction manual on life and start facing reality....
There's no instruction manual. It's called being a critical thinker. Feel free to look up what that means, if you can spare a few minutes from mocking a Gold Star mother.
do you think it would be right, even respectful for me to march right into the middle of sad event wearing a t-shirt stating "Joe is an A8*HOLE"?
First of all, if you think that's even remotely similar to a person sitting quietly, wearing a t-shirt that protests the foreign policy of her own nation, you're a complete moron. Please, one of these days, can we have a discussion bereft of your relentless production of straw men?
Second of all, whether it's respectful or not, I wouldn't suggest that you should be arrested for it. This is America. Try to get that through your head. We don't arrest people for their political beliefs. EVER.
Now I have right to say and protest this all I want, but do you think this is a cool thing to do?
Again. Do you understand the difference between "not cool" and "illegal?" Take a minute on that one, if you need it. If I cut in front of you at the grocery store, that's not cool. But it's not illegal. I can come up with some more if you still don't get it.
But I will humbly await your predictable cut and paste retort on my post....I'll just start calling you Mr. Originality...
My quoting your post in order to respond to it point by point means I'm unoriginal? What a ridiculous thing to say.
Look, I'm happy to keep debating you if you like, but I beg you to stop ending your posts with these half-baked "slams." I know you can't tell, but you're really humiliating yourself. Most of the time, I can't even follow what you're talking about. I let the last one (something about Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore economics?) slide...it was obvious that you were just getting your left-wing boogeymen mixed up. But please, think of your reputation, and stop with the "jokes."
And no I don't find a family torn apart enjoyable...
Could've fooled me. For the record, the quote was:
Geez, after her husband divorcing her and her family putting distance between them and her you would think she would get the point....
Original enough for you? |
Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 806
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 5:36 pm: |
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correct me if i am wrong, but i sense alot of sarcasm in your post.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Now THAT'S sarcasm! |
Scrotis Lo Knows
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 615
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 7:07 pm: |
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Madden 11
Do you always ignore what you don't understand?
It sure is appealing to seek the easy way out instead of simply asking what I mean by Michael Moore economics....try it, it doesn't hurt...
And strawmen and examples are two different things...
I agree no one should get arrested for wearing a t-shirt. The arresting officers issued an apology and let her go. I am beyond that like 24 hourts Madden, so catch up....
I just don't think it was cool for her to even wear the t-shirt to the event. She should of used better judgement and been more respectful, especially since she is a GUEST.
She has her limelights everyday and she needs to get over herself. As I named this post, her 15 minutes are long gone and the only ones payign attention to her are the extreme left wing wackos...
No jokes, huh? Ok how about a riddle?
Knock Knock
Who's There?
Madden11
Madden11 Who
Madden11 who is a .......
you fill in the blanks, the choices are endless! |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1445
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:05 pm: |
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Madden 11
You wrote above: "Second of all, whether it's respectful or not, I wouldn't suggest that you should be arrested for it. This is America. Try to get that through your head. We don't arrest people for their political beliefs. EVER."
You seem to forget that in the 40s and 50s we arrested and fired people from their jobs on suspicion of having belonged to the Communist Party. The Hollywood Blacklisting issue was based on that.
All that was necessary was suspicion, in fact.
You also seem to forget that protesters against the Vietnam war were arrested as well, during the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1968 and in a number of demonstrations in various cities in the US between 1967 and 1970.
Inspite of what you say, there is this strange historical precedent in the US about dissent and dissenters. |
Scrotis Lo Knows
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 618
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:29 pm: |
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Wow, I don't have to defend againt Innisowen? God does exist!
Good, yesterday was new comic book relase day (every Wednesday is) and I have some reading to catch up with.
Good night ya'll  |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1448
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:55 pm: |
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Scrotey:
Careful now about overusing that Pascalian wager theory. As you say about global warming, it may be only a theory. |
Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 807
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 1:33 am: |
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Do you always ignore what you don't understand?
It sure is appealing to seek the easy way out instead of simply asking what I mean by Michael Moore economics....try it, it doesn't hurt...
Well, how about the concept of being clear in the first place? Discussion is generally well-served when both sides can express themselves in an cohesive way. I'm afraid I don't have the time or patience to sit and decipher your attemps at humor. Just another intolerant lib, I guess, or whatever other pre-made label helps you understand the world and makes you comfortable.
If you feel like it, though, by all means explain...I'm sure it's a real gem.
And strawmen and examples are two different things...
Not in your case.
I agree no one should get arrested for wearing a t-shirt. The arresting officers issued an apology and let her go.
Sure...after all what's a little wrongful arrest and detention among friends? I wonder how long it would take you to get over it if police cuffed and carted you away for no good reason.
She has her limelights everyday and she needs to get over herself.
What an incredibly angry person you are. That woman with the dead son should just get over herself! Do you have anything even resembling a conscience?
As I named this post, her 15 minutes are long gone and the only ones payign attention to her are the extreme left wing wackos...
And you. Go figure.
Knock Knock
Who's There?
Madden11
Madden11 Who
Madden11 who is a .......
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Madden 11
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Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 808
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 1:36 am: |
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Inspite of what you say, there is this strange historical precedent in the US about dissent and dissenters.
True enough, Innisowen. I guess what I should have said was "We're not supposed to arrest people for their political beliefs."
During the time periods you mention, Americans were as blinded by irrational fear as we are now. I'm not anxious to return to that mindset, and it sounds like you aren't either...though apparently it suits some people just fine. |
Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 619
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 7:41 am: |
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Madden11-
You are on the board at 1:30AM? Go to bed or get a life....or maybe both....
I find it interesting you are always pulling out the moral arguments everytime you retort, trying to make yourself appear high and mighty while trying to make me appear as if I am some inhumane monster for having the audacity to question Ma Sheehan.
Like she never did ANYTHING to bring this criticism upon her self?
The rest of the Sheehan family seem to be grieving just fine without having to cause a public stir....
Whatever.... |
Madden 11
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Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 810
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 11:45 am: |
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You are on the board at 1:30AM? Go to bed or get a life....or maybe both....
That's an interesting suggestion from someone who has posted almost as much on this board in 4 months as I have in 2+ years. But it fits right into the patented Scrotis method of insecurity projection.
I find it interesting you are always pulling out the moral arguments everytime you retort, trying to make yourself appear high and mighty while trying to make me appear as if I am some inhumane monster for having the audacity to question Ma Sheehan.
It has nothing to do with morality, nor am I building myself up while tearing you down. I'm just tearing you down, because I find your attitude towards Cindy Sheehan reprehensible.
If it was simply a matter of you questioning her, that would be fine. Anyone is more than welcome to agree or disagree with her stance on the war. What bothers me is how much fun you have mocking her and her pain, far beyond the point of simple disagreement. You take your cue from the Bill O'Reilly's of the world...you judge based on soundbites, you don't bother to question what you're told, and you're too afraid of being wrong to even entertain the possibility. You can't debate her on the facts, so you pretend she's crazy so you can dodge the issue.
Like she never did ANYTHING to bring this criticism upon her self?
No, she didn't. All she's doing is stating her opinions, and it drives the right wing crazy that more Americans agree with her on the war than with the President. She is extremely dangerous to them, which is why they are desperate to marginalize her and misrepresent what it is she's trying to say. It's smear, smear, smear, and lie, lie, lie just like they do every time they know they're in the wrong.
But keep it up, if you have to. I know it makes you feel better about yourself, and that's what's really important here. |
Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 626
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 12:01 pm: |
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Madden11-
You are right. All it is toward Sheehan is one big smear campaign out of fear. The fact that she destroyed her own credibility by taking extreme left wing positions is irrelevant.
Of course, it is the big bad ugly right wingers hiding under the bed....! Everyone to the hills!
This topic has been exhausted, I am done.
But I'll wait for your last word. It would kill your witty self if you didn't say anything... |
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