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Bob K
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 10504
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 7:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11136502/

Guess the Bushies forgot to find out his views on the death penalty before nominating him. :-)

Did this come up during the hearings?
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Guy
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Username: Vandalay

Post Number: 1479
Registered: 8-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"At events throughout Martin Luther King Day earlier this month commemorating the great civil rights leader, countless people who care about civil rights today emphasized the major threat that Alito poses to our values of equality and justice if he becomes a member of the Supreme Court, with the power to roll back so much of the extraordinary progress we've made. I was inspired by their passion and commitment to defend the progress we've made in our country's history."

Ted Kennedy
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tjohn
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Post Number: 4008
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alito is well-qualified for his position. Moreover, while he is undoubtedly conservative, I think he is also aware that when you on are the Supreme Court, the buck truly stops here. So, perhaps he will decide somethings a bit differently than he has in the past.
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Eats Shoots & Leaves
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Username: Mfpark

Post Number: 2976
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 9:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't get too excited--all he did was vote to uphold a stay while the Court decides which case of three to use to look at death penalty appeal issues in this term. It does not mean he is opposed to the death penalty--he could easily have done this on narrow procedural grounds.
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bettyd
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Post Number: 56
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tjohn,
I think your thought may be correct. Sure he's a staunch conservative, but it was easy to be the dissenter and write conservative opinions when he was on a lower appellate court and knew the majority was going to rule the opposite. He got to say his piece but it didn't become precedent. There is much more gravitas to decisions coming from the Supreme Court, and if he will be the swing vote on a major issue affecting millions of Americans, maybe he will become less conservative, a la Souter. On abortion for example, even though he is obviously personally against it and may vote for restrictions, i.e., banning partial birth abortion as long as there is an exception for the health of the woman, perhaps he will reason, as mony other conservative jurists have, that the decision is a private one that should be left to the woman and her medical care provider.
But, as ES&L said, let's not get too excited. We have yet to see how his decisions go and how he evolves as a justice of the final court in the land.
For all the conservatives who crowed about his confirmation, he may not turn out to be as conservative as they had hoped. A lifetime appointment can cut both ways. He is beholden to nobody (Bush and Republican conservatives included) now that he is on the bench for life.
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Bob K
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Post Number: 10516
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Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bettyd, this can be read in another way. He may be personally opposed to the death penalty because of his believes and with the life time appointment he feels free to vote his conscience.
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 308
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Death Penalty has got to go....I'm loving the Alito nomination, and I think he's going to make us proud on ALL fronts.
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bettyd
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Username: Badjtdso

Post Number: 57
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob K,
True. Time will show us where he goes. I just wanted to point out that his decisions will now have a much greater impact, and this has caused some justices to temper their personal beliefs and become a little more "middle of the road" in their judicial decisions, for want of a better term. Lewis Powell is another justice that comes to mind. He was a Republican appointee (Nixon I beleive) with a conservative background who turned out to lean a little to the liberal side, which disappointed many conservatives in the 70's and 80's, kind of like Souter now. Again, who knows but we shall see.
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cjc
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Post Number: 5124
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 1:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you paid attention to Alito's testimony, this wouldn't be at all surprising.
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TomR
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Username: Tomr

Post Number: 957
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 3:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Smarty,

Why does it have to go?

TomR

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