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Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 799
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 4:39 pm: | 
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clearly they spent all day Sunday deciding how to spin the hunting 'accident'.
If it were a regular citizen who accidentally shot someone and the police were not immediately called in, wouldnt you find that to be suspicious behavior? I tend to agree with themp, this man was drunk and fired his gun at close range, either accidentally or purposefully in error. I dont buy any of the official story.
At the end of the day it would be ironic to see Cheney brought into court for obstructing justice or leaving the scene of a crime.
I know that if it were Sen. Kennedy the stories about attempted murder would already be flying into bookstores. |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 2533
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 4:45 pm: |
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They photographed this guy leaving with a trashbag full of paper towels.
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steel
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Username: Steel
Post Number: 959
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 5:41 pm: |
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For the record:
There was no crime. In fact, (at least in Texas) no one is even required to report a hunting accident unless there is a fatality. -Which causes me to think that it is entirely possible that they contemplated never telling the story at all.
All that this story serves, (aside from a great deal of entertainment) is to cast the VP, (again) in a well-deserved and a less-than flattering light. I suspect that it will also be a Cheney punchline for as long as anyone remembers Cheney. -It is just the kind of dramatic-funny freak thing that has that kind of sticking power. It is a thing which can and often will be alluded to in relation to almost any future endeavor of his.
As in: "The Vice President held a meeting today, no one was shot". "What are you going to do Dick, -shoot me in the face?" "Hey Dick, don't look at me like that, the quail is over THERE". "Mr Vice President, before we begin questions I must ask, are you armed?" On and on.
I may begin to immediately design the T-shirts. |
tulip
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Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3202
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 5:51 pm: |
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Well, it's not funny. The guy is one heartbeat away from the presidency.
Literally, a kookoo finger right there on the nuclear trigger.
I like how everyone's trying to make it cute and funny.
Nope. Not. |
joel dranove
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Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 54
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 5:52 pm: |
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Dan Quayle shooting T-shirts?
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Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10661
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 7:01 pm: |
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Actually the VP was issued a warning citation for not having an upland game endorsement on his Texas non-resident hunting license. There is no penalty involved. Apparently the local Sherrif got word of the incident and attempted to interview Cheney. The Secret Service denied him access.
Steel, are you sure. It seems insane that any type of shooting incident doesn't have to be reported to the police.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5041
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 7:41 pm: |
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You're all forgetting one telling aspect of this whole episode.
On the various "talking head" shows, there are Cheney minions out there blaming the guy who got shot.
It's kind of a pattern with these folks - it's always someone else's fault. |
I "Straw"buried Paul
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6780
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 7:45 pm: |
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"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5043
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 7:52 pm: |
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"I swear, he was sneaking up behind me as I spun around to shoot that bird!"
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Lydia
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Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1674
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 8:13 pm: |
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I'm looking forward to how Jon Stewert and SNL can make this story any more ironic than the official spin:
"She told reporters that the small shotgun pellets "broke the skin" and that the blast "knocked him silly. But he was fine. He was talking. His eyes were open. It didn't get in his eyes or anything like that." "
Cheney's blast only broke regular skin - eye-skin was unscathed.
Phew.
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Stuart0628
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Username: Stuart0628
Post Number: 220
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 8:46 pm: |
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Go Hunting with the Veep |
steel
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Username: Steel
Post Number: 960
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 9:31 pm: |
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BobK,
Regarding hunting accidents not needing to be reported in Texas; -I am only sure about that as far as that is how it was reported in an AP report earlier in the day. |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 4352
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 10:08 pm: |
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How about gunshot wounds? |
Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10665
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 4:47 am: |
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It will be interesting to see what Mr. Whittington has to say when he recovers enough to talk.
From what I have read about him, he is a straight shooter (pun intended) who is often brought in by the government to head up boards that supervise troubled agencies such as the prison system and supervise industries such as the funeral business that have "issues".
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Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10667
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 7:42 am: |
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Steel, the hunting accident non-reporting was in the Times this morning, so it must be true. I still find that one person inflicting a gunshot wound on another isn't reported incredible.
The Times also quotes the Kendy County sherrif as saying Mr. Whittington has admited responsibility. |
The Soulful Mr T
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Username: Howardt
Post Number: 1444
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 8:08 am: |
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Y'gotta LOVE this story, whatever your take on it.... |
Guy
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Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1524
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 8:19 am: |
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The best headline so far.
CHENEY'S GOT A GUN
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4037
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 8:59 am: |
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"The Times also quotes the Kendy County sherrif as saying Mr. Whittington has admited responsibility."
Surely you jest, BobK. It is the shooters responsibility to know what is downrange at all times. While I can understand why soldiers and police officers make mistakes, I wouldn't grant the same allowances to hunters. |
Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10668
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:10 am: |
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TJ, that is the quote from the paper. I agree that the person pulling the trigger has ultimate responsibility.
From what I have read, mentioned before, about Mr. Whittington he isn't the type to go along with a coverup. In Texas Sherrif is an elected position I believe, and unlike NJ, has a real roll in law enforcement. If the Sherrif is going with the flow or not is probably an open question.
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Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 801
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:13 am: |
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Lets see - Poor Mr. Whittington is laying in the ICU, all kinds of pain killers and narcotics running through his system, Cheney and team already having 'visited' the man to make sure he was ok, and the detective comes and gets his 'statement'? Its a wonder Mr. Whittington could even speak let alone actually know what happened.
Sheriff: So Mr. Whittington what happened?
Mr. W: I got shot
Sheriff: How did it happen
Mr. W: It was all my fault. I decided to go hunting with that pea brain Cheney. We had a couple of drinks and I said I thougt it would be good if we could start bringing our troops home from Iraq. Then the bastard shot me. I never should have mentioned Iraq. It was all my fault.
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Phenixrising
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Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1413
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:14 am: |
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according to the sheriff, I guess Cheney did break the law.
Cheney Issued Warning for Failure to Buy Stamp
Tuesday, February 14, 2006
WASHINGTON — Vice President Dick Cheney has been given a warning citation for breaking Texas hunting law by failing to buy a $7 stamp allowing him to shoot upland game birds.
The warning came from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department after it investigated Cheney's accidental shooting of a fellow quail hunter Saturday on the private Armstrong Ranch in the south part of the state.
The department found the accident was caused by a "hunter's judgment factor" when Cheney sprayed another hunter while aiming at flying birds.
The report said the victim, prominent Republican attorney Harry Whittington of Austin, was retrieving a downed bird and stepped out of the hunting line he was sharing with Cheney. "Another covey was flushed and Cheney swung on a bird and fired, striking Whittington in the face, neck and chest at approximately 30 yards," the report said.
Cheney, an experienced hunter, has not commented publicly about the accident. His office said Monday night in a statement that Cheney had a $125 nonresident hunting license and has sent a $7 check to cover the cost of the stamp. "The staff asked for all permits needed, but was not informed of the $7 upland game bird stamp requirement," the statement said.
Hunter's judgment factor? Hmmm… |
Guy
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Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1525
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:23 am: |
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Good news. Cheney will be forced to retire and Bush will pick a prominent 2008 presidential candidate as his VP, thus increasing the odds of a Republican Whitehouse in 2009.
Did Rove plan this? |
I "Straw"buried Paul
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6781
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:29 am: |
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Sounds like a perfect opportunity to make Rice V.P.
Whatever happens, thank to the liberal left, Bush will gain in the polls over the incident. It's another opportunity for Americans to see how mean spirited and pointless today's liberals are.
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steel
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Username: Steel
Post Number: 961
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:29 am: |
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BobK,
-I also caught that confirmation about non-required reporting of hunting accidents as reported in the NYTimes, quote;
"There is no requirement to report nonfatal hunting accidents in Texas, said Lydia Saldana, the communications director for the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department."
-It does seem surprising but I guess the reasoning is, -What's a little gun-play among friends?
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Meanwhile, I have to disagree with our beloved Tulip on this "issue" that this is not funny. (maybe it's a guy thing, or just a dark-humor thing or just loving to see Cheney in such a ridiculous situation?) -Anyway, as easily predicted, the comedians are "shooting fish in a barrel".
As per example Letterman, -who had the stage manager dressed in hunting gear shooting a dummy (also dressed in hunting gear) out of the rafters and also produced a "Sorry I shot you in the face" gift basket.
(Letterman's) Top Ten Dick Cheney Excuses
10. "Heart palpitation caused trigger finger to spasm"
9. "Wanted to get the Iraq mess off the front page"
8. "Not enough Jim Beam"
7. "Trying to stop the spread of bird flu"
6. "I love to shoot people"
5. "Guy was making cracks about my lesbian daughter"
4. "I thought the guy was trying to go 'gay cowboy' on me"
3. "Excuse? I hit him, didn't I?"
2. "Until Democrats approve medicare reform, we have to make some tough choices for the elderly"
1. "Made a bet with Gretzky's wife"
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PS: I thought I was kidding about joke T-shirts but I googled around a bit last night and there were already quite a variety available such as the "Cheney Gun Club". -Ah, the true wonders of internet capitalism!
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Phenixrising
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Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1414
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:44 am: |
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TV comedians target Cheney accident
Tuesday, 14 February , 2006, 19:56
Los Angeles: Television talk shows took aim Monday at Vice President Dick Cheney's accidental weekend shooting in Texas of a hunting companion. Here are a few of the jokes.
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"Late Show with David Letterman," CBS:
• "Good news, ladies and gentlemen, we have finally located weapons of mass destruction: It's Dick Cheney."
• "But here is the sad part — before the trip Donald Rumsfeld had denied the guy's request for body armor."
• "We can't get Bin Laden, but we nailed a 78-year-old attorney."
• "The guy who got gunned down, he is a Republican lawyer and a big Republican donor and fortunately the buck shot was deflected by wads of laundered cash. So he's fine. He took a little in the wallet."
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"The Tonight Show with Jay Leno," NBC:
• "Although it is beautiful here in California, the weather back East has been atrocious. There was so much snow in Washington, D.C., Dick Cheney accidentally shot a fat guy thinking it was a polar bear.
• "That's the big story over the weekend. ... Dick Cheney accidentally shot a fellow hunter, a 78-year-old lawyer. In fact, when people found out he shot a lawyer, his popularity is now at 92 percent."
• "I think Cheney is starting to lose it. After he shot the guy he screamed, 'Anyone else want to call domestic wire tapping illegal?'"
• "Dick Cheney is capitalizing on this for Valentine's Day. It's the new Dick Cheney cologne. It's called Duck!"
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"The Daily Show with Jon Stewart," Comedy Central:
• "Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot a man during a quail hunt ... making 78-year-old Harry Whittington the first person shot by a sitting veep since Alexander Hamilton. Hamilton, of course, (was) shot in a duel with Aaron Burr over issues of honor, integrity and political maneuvering. Whittington? Mistaken for a bird."
• "Now, this story certainly has its humorous aspects. ... But it also raises a serious issue, one which I feel very strongly about. ... moms, dads, if you're watching right now, I can't emphasize this enough: Do not let your kids go on hunting trips with the vice president. I don't care what kind of lucrative contracts they're trying to land, or energy regulations they're trying to get lifted — it's just not worth it."
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"Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson," CBS:
• "He is a lawyer and he got shot in the face. But he's a lawyer, he can use his other face. He'll be all right."
• "You can understand why this lawyer fellow let his guard down, because if you're out hunting with a politician, you think, 'If I'm going to get it, it's going to be in the back.' "
• "The big scandal apparently is that they didn't release the news for 18 hours. I don't think that's a scandal at all. I'm quite pleased about that. Finally there's a secret the vice president's office can keep."
"Apparently the reason they didn't release the information right away is they said we had to get the facts right. That's never stopped them in the past."
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 12532
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 8:52 pm: |
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/14/cheney.jokes.ap/index.html |
ML
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Username: Ml1
Post Number: 2938
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 8:57 pm: |
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Ironically, Whittington initially turned down the invitation. He said "I need to go hunting with Cheney like I need a hole in the head!" |
Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10683
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 4:35 am: |
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Caught a representative of the Texas Department of Fish and Game on TV. Hunting accidents don't have to be reported, but doctors are required to report gunshot wounds they treat.
I also caught Fox News and their spin, from the "emails we received" was that the "American public" wasn't upset about the delay in releasing the news, but the "horrible" behavior of the White House press corp in working over good old Scotty, especially David Gregory of NBC.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 729
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:19 am: |
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Bob K
Yup, it is only Fox News lying and spinning the news.... |
Phenixrising
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Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1419
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:34 am: |
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Gene Z
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Username: Genez
Post Number: 595
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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NEWS FLASH.
There has been a leak of a transcript from an "unauthorized" wire-tap at the White House, of a conversation between the Prez and the VeeP just prior to the hunting trip:
BUSH: "Now Dick, these men are big contributors, so be sure to take good care of them."
CHENEY: "Don't worry, Mr. President, I'll give it my best shot."
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LazyDog
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Username: Lazydog
Post Number: 152
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 5:32 pm: |
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 737
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:28 am: |
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Yeah, I am kind of curious what Vince Foster's opinion on this whole matter is but he coudn't be reached for comment.... |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 2558
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:53 am: |
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Let's have an independent counsel look into it, as with Foster. |
Guy
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Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1540
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:01 am: |
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This is all I have time for. If someone can improve on it or finish, please feel free.
CHENEY's GOT A GUN
Cheney's Got A Gun
Cheney's Got A Gun
David Gregory's world's come undone
From talking to Scott McClell-un
What did Dick Cheney do
At least the pellets didn't go through
They say that Cheney should be arrested
They say he aimed for Whitty's brain
But man, he had it comin'
Now that Cheney's got a Gun
He says it's time for Valerie Plame
Cheney's got a gun
Cheney's got a gun
His " worst day's " just begun
The gun's made by Halliburton
Tell Britt now it's untrue
What did Dick Cheney do
He jacked the little bitty Whitty
The man has got to be in pain
They say the shot was just a blunder
The press begins to wonder
Knew that someone had to take the blame
Run away, run away before he aims
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Run away, run away before he aims
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Run away, run away, run, run away
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Pippi
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Username: Pippi
Post Number: 1753
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 12:04 pm: |
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The Soulful Mr T
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Username: Howardt
Post Number: 1465
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 12:37 pm: |
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Pipster, that's great. Where'd you find it? |
Pippi
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Username: Pippi
Post Number: 1755
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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a coworker emailed it to me. There are already a ton of t-shirts available on zazzle
http://www.zazzle.com/products/gallery/browse_results.asp?searching=on&general_c ategory_id=0&searching_search_columns=*&general_product_type=0&searching_search_ condition=cheney&x=0&y=0 |
Heybub
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Username: Heybub
Post Number: 410
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 4:00 pm: |
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Guy, Steven Tyler's day job appears safe... Nice work, even if nobody else appreciates it. |
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