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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 4068
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 9:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-20-gay-adoption_x.htm ?

Or are children just collateral damage in the course of the greater good of the Bush Administration?
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 5068
Registered: 10-1999


Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure one of the usual suspects will be along eventually, Tjohn, to explain that this is just "good politics".
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 790
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tjohn-

How you can imply that ALL "Bush Supporters" would agree with this?

You left leaning folks hate stereotyping even though you do it yourselves time and time again....

-SLK
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 4069
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, you don't support this particular bit of the Bush platform but accept it it as collateral damage for the greater good.
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Hank Zona
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Username: Hankzona

Post Number: 5286
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK -- maybe the implication was in your interpretation...I didnt see the "all" implication.
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Shanabana
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Username: Shanabana

Post Number: 226
Registered: 10-2005


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MANY Bush supporters seem to be in denial about what they supported when they elected Bush.
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Guy
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Username: Vandalay

Post Number: 1556
Registered: 8-2004


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I missed the part of the article where GWB called for a law against gay couples to adopt children.
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MBJ
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Username: Mbj

Post Number: 142
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bush haters trace all perceived anti-gay activities back to GWB.

How's that for a nice, stereotyping post, Tjohn?
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5212
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why can't Blue states pass stuff in favor of what the Bush Administration is being tarred as opposing? Ask Jesse Jackson for his view on this and see what he says.

There are cultural issues that cut across party lines, and this is just one of them.

Am I against gay marriage or gay adoption? No. Am I a republican who regrets his vote for Bush? No.
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drewdix
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Username: Drewdix

Post Number: 1129
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cjc,
Nice to see you've moved off your previous "no gay marriage" stance.
I congratulate you.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 792
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hank-if it wasn't mean't to incorporate ALL Bush supporters then the heading should of been more specific.

tjohn-so you stopped supporting Clinton because he signed DOMA into law?

-SLK














































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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 546
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

should of?
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5214
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

drewdix -- I didn't oppose gay marriage per se. I was concerned that any and all arrangements could then be justified. It was ashear I believe who taught me that you can write legislation -- local or federal -- to discriminate against any group/behavior/arrangement you want and could tailor gay marriage narrowly.
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 4071
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK,

I supported Clinton in '92. His campaign seemed upbeat and positive. Afterwards, I voted for Clinton because the alternative was worse.

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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 795
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Oldstone!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)

tjohn-now you know how many Bush supporters partly feklt in 2004....
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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 549
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Southerner
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Username: Southerner

Post Number: 702
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't see a problem with this. If states want to enact laws that are ultimately deemed constitutional then why can't they? Do you folks of New Jersey want the Texans currently running the show to make New Jersey law the same as Texas, or do you want the freedom to make your own state decisions. Before I get tarred, I haven't even discussed the merits of this one particular issue. The issue is state's rights so you should be careful about opening that can of worms especially since southern politicians dominate both parties leadership. Reference 4 of the last 5 President's and the majority leader. I'd love to see the reactions if New Jersey was forced to live under Georgia law. You guys would lose it. How about letting the people of each state decide on issues like this? Or does democracy scare you?
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 4075
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 2:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I actually agree with Southerner on this one. In the interests world peace, countries and states need to learn to let other countries and states regulate their own behavior subject to certain limits.

The problem we have is too much leisure time and too much communication, so we start worrying too much about what our distant neighbors are doing.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5219
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/22/nyregion/22hillary.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Gay Rights Group Criticizes Senator Clinton's Stance on Same-Sex Marriage



.....they must not be in on her joke.

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