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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 4:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow-

I was a huge Smiths fan back in high school/college and still listen to them occassionally. I also have been digging Morrissey's solo stuff as well and even "bought" his latest album (not bad).

But he is getting so old, only remidning me how old I am getting. I sure hope he stops before he starts singing during Superbowl halftimes!

I am posting just for the pure novelty that some of you may enjoy. I really don't agree with Moz politically and his whining, singing or not, does become aggravating at times...

-SLK



Morrissey, the next terror threat?

Posted by Laura Barcella at 12:01 PM on February 23, 2006.


The legendary misanthropic rockstar claims to have been investigated by the FBI and British intelligence.


"I wear black on the outside, cos black is how I feel on the inside."

Remember, back in your formative prepubescent years, when you used to eat, sleep, breathe, and dream those lyrics? When you'd scrawl them in black Sharpie on your Converse sneakers and geeky Jansport backpack? Remember when you bought, like, every Smiths record, cd, 7-inch, single, and bootleg you could possibly get your hands on -- because the notion of Morrissey having sung just one note of one measly song you never heard made you feel like less of a fan?

Oh, I remember it well. Morrissey's music (especially his early work with Johnny Marr in legendary Manchester band the Smiths) was my personal soundtrack to high school, college and, yes, beyond. But when I was younger (18-ish) and constantly concocting glamorous fantasies of the Future Me, Morrissey always seemed like the smartest, wittiest, most alienated and simultaneously most adored version of what I imagined myself becoming as a boring ol' Adult: a sly, shy but big-mouthed misanthropic vegan charmer with progressive personal politics. Oh, Moz -- the me I'd (one day) be! (But not in male form. Or with a British accent and pompadour. Or the dramatic flair for wearing flowers in back pockets. And unfortunately lacking the cute famous exes, like Michael Stipe.)

… I digress. Morrissey is aging (quite gracefully, I'll add), but his aformentioned politics are still going strong. Which might be why he, of all people, was recently investigated by the FBI.

Huh? Moz, interrogated? In both Britain and America? Yep. It's ridiculous, but given our current regime, it makes a sad sort of sense.

See, Moz has been a long-time critic of both president Bush (whom he's called a "terrorist") and the war on Iraq. He endorsed John Kerry before the '04 election, and urged people to follow his lead in bashing Bush: "With all my heart I urge people to vote against George Bush. Jon Stewart would be ideal, but John Kerry is the logical and sane move." And on his last record, in a song called "America is Not the World," he sang, "America your head's too big, because America, your belly's too big…/In America, the land of the free, they said…But where the president is never black, female or gay, until that day you've got nothing to say to me, to help me believe…"

Yeah. So apparently he got hauled in, questioned and taped by both FBI and British intelligence because of his lack of patriotism. Ugh. Via Contact Music, Morrissey explains:

"The FBI and the Special Branch have investigated me and I've been interviewed and taped and so forth. They were trying to determine if I was a threat to the government, and similarly in England. But it didn't take them very long to realise that I'm not…


"I don't belong to any political groups, I don't really say anything unless I'm asked directly and I don't even demonstrate in public. I always assume that so-called authoritarian figures just assume that pop/rock music is slightly insane and an untouchable platform for the working classes to stand up and say something noticeable.


"My view is that neither England or America are democratic societies. You can't really speak your mind and if you do you're investigated."




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The Libertarian
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 5:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when he isnt making great music he heads SPECTER.
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Foj
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 5:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Smiths" Huh? Have I heard this band?
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The Libertarian
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 6:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

blasphemy!!!
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Rastro
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Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're either over 50 or under 25. Or you think Hanson was underrated.
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Grrrrrrrrrrr
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I still walk around somehow but you have killed me...
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notehead
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A fave Moz lyric:

"I want to catch something I'd be ashamed of."

and also...

"Some girls' mothers are bigger than other girls' mothers."

Just think of the all incredibly depressing (and sometimes brilliantly oddball) lyrics we would have been deprived of if Moz had been given an effective serotonin-reuptake-inhibitor back in the 80's.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Post Number: 877
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

notey-

Tiny correction: are you sure it is not "I DON'T want to catch something I'd be ashamed of." ?

Just checking! :-)

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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Post Number: 878
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am actually listening to the best of the Smiths at work as I type this.... :-)
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Rastro
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Sweetness, I was only joking when I said by rights you should be bludgeoned in your bed."
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notehead
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 4:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, Scrotis, the entire verse is:

But sometimes I'd feel more fulfilled
Making Christmas cards with the mentally ill
I want to live and I want to Love
I want to catch something that I might be ashamed of
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Rastro
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 4:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

 Mr.MP3,audio/mpegI want to catch something that I might be ashamed of...
Frankly (110.1 k)
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ahhh, "Frankly Mr, Shankly"...great tune....sorry, my goof...
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bettyd
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 5:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about "How Soon is Now", which Rolling Stone called the Stairway to Heaven of the 80's. I can't recall the exact lyrics from the song about going to a club but it was something like this:
"There's a club where you want to go, you might meet someone who really loves you. So you go on your own, and you stand on your own, and you leave on your own, then you go home and you cry and you want to die."
Not exactly "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go." Thankfully, I might add.
The song that most reminds me of my twenties and hanging out in clubs in NYC is Bizarre Love Triangle by New Order. I love that tune, particularly the extended dance version.
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Grrrrrrrrrrr
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 5:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And if a double-decker bus crashes into us, to die by your side, is such a heavenly way to die,

And if a 10-ton truck kills the both of us, to die by your side, well the pleasure, the privelege is mine...
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Grrrrrrrrrrr
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 5:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In my heart, I begged you to take me with you...
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Rastro
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who knew Grrrrrrr had taste in music? I thought he was just a curmudgeon.
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Grrrrrrrrrrr
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 3:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The correct term for my MOL behaviour is "Highbrow Hubris". I admittedly add very little to these serious discussions. I prefer to sit back and point out the hypocracy of others (mostly liberals).

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