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themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 2622
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 3:24 pm: | 
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030106J.shtml
Who knows. If you read this through, you might have a moment where you say "wow!" out loud.
Not over yet, I guess. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3282
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 4:52 pm: |
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themp:
Wow |
joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 113
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 4:58 pm: |
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she was not a "covert" operative.
sorry.
jd |
Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 834
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 5:05 pm: |
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she was not a "covert" operative.
And there you have it. What more proof do you need? |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 5816
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 5:33 pm: |
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Well I know I feel tons better. Thanks Joel, I won't worry anymore.
Phew, what a relief. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4435
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 6:55 pm: |
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joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 114
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 7:07 pm: |
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Thank you for your trust in me.
jd |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 749
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 7:12 pm: |
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I wonder what Fitmas will bring this summer. Maybe he'll indict a couple of interns and the lawn man at Rove's house. I just can't wait. Keep putting your eggs in there you libs. |
joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 115
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 7:12 pm: |
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October 29, 2005, Newsmax is the source:
Leakgate Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald dropped a mini-bombshell Friday afternoon while he was explaining his indictment of Lewis "Scooter" Libby to the press.
It turns out that the central premise of his investigation - that Valerie Plame Wilson enjoyed protected "covert" status at the CIA - may not be true.
"Let me say two things," Fitzgerald told reporters. "I am not speaking [in this indictment] to whether or not Valerie Wilson was covert . . . And we have not made any allegation that Mr. Libby knowingly or intentionally outed a covert agent."
Fitzgerald did insist that Mrs. Wilson's "association with the CIA was classified," which would make leaking her occupation a crime. But he declined to bring any charges to that effect, casting even more doubt on the claim that her CIA job was a closely guarded secret.
Story Continues Below
A Nexis Lexis search shows that since Mrs. Wilson's alleged "outing" in July 2003, the media has erroneously referred to her "covert" status more than 3,100 times.
Surely the press will begin issuing its Leakgate retractions any minute now.
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tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4436
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 7:13 pm: |
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You're either blowing your own CIA cover, or talking through your hat. At least, that's my take. Give me reason to believe otherwise. |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 4437
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 7:18 pm: |
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Wait a minute -- Fitzgerald makes a point of not speaking to her covert status, and you go ahead and read that as a statement that she wasn't. But that's not what he said.
Your logic is flawed. The fact that he didn't bring charges that day means nothing. He didn't bring charges the day before, either, or the month before. That's because the investigation is ongoing.
If Fitzgerald was prepared to accept that she was non-covert then there would be nothing further to investigate and the grand jury dismissed, which hasn't happened.
The only reason, then, you can go on to say that the use of the word "covert" is erroneous is if you -- erroneously -- take Fitzgerald's non-statement to be a statement. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3284
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 7:31 pm: |
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Conspiracy is conspiracy. If all these "leaders" got together to figure out how to damage a whistleblower, that's actionable in itself. Hell with covert/non-covert. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 752
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 7:40 pm: |
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tom,
We agree on something. He hasn't brought charges. But I guess you are sitting there just waiting. Guess what? Thousands of prosecutors don't bring charges every day against millions of Americans and we have thousands of Grand Jury's seated. When will you libs get this. Fitz had the nation and all the networks at his use last year and all he did was get Libby. His load is shot and you guys just can't believe that is it. This case is DOA, but I hope you guys keep patiently waiting. Maybe tomorrow will be indictment day! |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3287
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 7:42 pm: |
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Dubai, Katrina, who needs Plame?
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John Caffrey
Citizen
Username: Jerseyjack
Post Number: 76
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 8:07 pm: |
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Saying goes, history repeats itself:
Burr - Chaney
Chaney - now what was that other guy's name......?
Oh yeh, Agnew.
Let's all hope.. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4438
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 8:56 pm: |
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southerner, joel is trying to extrapolate that fact into some form of total exoneration. It may come to that point, but it's not there yet.
Yes, there are plenty of grand juries seated, but their terms expire eventually. Fitzgerald's is still in business, and still digging up as of today at least documents that were "missing" when initially subpoenaed a few years ago. |
joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 118
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 9:30 pm: |
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I am telling you that your opinion is not necessarily fact.
And if you rely upon the CIA for anything besides a fine three course dinner at their restaurant in Hyde Park, NY, well, you are a fool.
jd |
joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 119
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 9:31 pm: |
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Who killed James Jesus Angleton?
Not me.
jd |
themp
Supporter
Username: Themp
Post Number: 2629
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 10:09 pm: |
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Angleton died of lung cancer in Washington's Sibley Hospital on May 12, 1987.
Yeah, good point, though.
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