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Brokeback Straw
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Post Number: 6927
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another victory for America. Bad news for terrorists (and liberals)

The Great Straw is a proud American.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey

Post Number: 1969
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yay.

now you'll have to bring your passport to Rite Aid when you buy Sudafed.

Quote:

The reauthorized Patriot Act includes new tools to combat the manufacture and distribution of methamphetamine. It will require retailers to place cold medicines with pseudoephedrine -- a key ingredient of the illegal drug -- behind counters, and would set limits on each person's monthly and daily purchases. Buyers would have to identify themselves and sign for their purchases.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/07/AR2006030701082. html

"You're either nasally congested, or you're with the terrorists."
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tom
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Post Number: 4481
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if Mr. Straw can explain what that has to do with terrorism.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey

Post Number: 1970
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

clearly Tylenol Sinus is part of an al Qaeda plot.
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1655
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

more government control over your daily lives. piece by piece, step by step.
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Guy
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Post Number: 1635
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is intended to stop Sudafide Bombers
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey

Post Number: 1971
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it's probably a good thing. I can live with inferior decongestant products as long as it keeps the evildoers from detonating a pseudoephedrine bomb in Times Square.
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themp
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Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is meth hillbilly crack, or is oxicontin hillbilly heroin?

Which is better in your opinion?

If a hillbilly hides his stash in the back of his overalls, is he hiding his hillbilly heroin in his hillbilly crack?
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The Libertarian
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i pray for the day a pseudoephedrine bomb gets detonated. i could use the pick-me up
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The SLK Effect
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1022
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yup, so much for the latest liberal "outrage."

-SLK
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Post Number: 1976
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

we're just being true to ourselves and ridiculing what we think is wrong in this world.
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The SLK Effect
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1026
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Dr. and still a majority of Congress still voted for its reauthorization.

The last time they voted for it (then bitched about it) they later blamed it on "political pressure" after 9/11. What is their excuse this time?

I am glad to see that you regard the PA as "something wrong in this world" but terrorism you don't.

Great priorities...

-SLK
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tom
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Patriot Act is just like Iraq, a wet dream of the radical right which 9/11 allowed them to jam through the system. It's got virtually nothing to do with 9/11 because it's all stuff that they wanted to do anyway. Security at ports and chemical plants, or energy independence, isn't part of the plan, alas for us here in eastern New Jersey.
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The SLK Effect
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1029
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom-

So answer my question. What is the excuse for the support this time?

-SLK

"Radical Right"...snicker....
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey

Post Number: 1978
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Quote:

I am glad to see that you regard the PA as "something wrong in this world" but terrorism you don't.



you got me pegged. damn, I had hoped my warm feelings toward terrorism were going unnoticed.
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The SLK Effect
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Username: Scrotisloknows

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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dr.

And I am sad to hear the PA is keeping you up at night.....

Don't worry my friend, reagrdless of what you think, no one gives a damn what books you
are checking out of the library....

Get over yourself...

-SLK
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Post Number: 1979
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

since you don't think it's proper to poke fun at it, perhaps you can explain to me the threat that cold remedies pose to national security.
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llama
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Post Number: 738
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 7:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Such irony! (or is it "morony?" The government has to pretend to be doing something useful, and to fool the idiots who believe them. True to the wingnut slogan, "freedom isn't free." These "patriotic" acts are definately taking away our freedom. Let's let the terrorists do this to us, and cheer it on to boot. Forget about Bin Laden. We got Saddam!!! We are winning the "war on terror!" Lets turn over our ports to the UAE! It all makes so much sense (if your brain isthe size of a peanut or you are in complete denial). Just don't think about the generations of hatred that we created for our childrens future.
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Southerner
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 7:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And our children's childrens future! You should change from llama to lemming.

(And I do love how the Dems were absolutely powerless to stop this. Your right, elections don't matter)
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llama
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 9:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clever idea to resort to name calling. Actually, you are the one who is following the ignorant masses that have permiated our society on a mission to self destruct in the name of greed and ignorance, so you should change your name to lemming and act like a real Patriot, not a monkey on a string who dances whenever he's given a banana.
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Southerner
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Post Number: 798
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How can I be following the ignorant masses if we are in the minority? Which one is it? Are conservatives the majority or minority? (Keep in mind, I don't really care as long as we can keep our control and drive the other side nuts)
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llama
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Post Number: 740
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 7:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now there's snapshot of a proud American citizen... An ignorant pathetic fool whose goals are about power and greed with no insite about anything outside his bubble. Thanks for sharing.
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Southerner
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Post Number: 800
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, I guess you don't believe in disagreement. Where did you get the term greed from? You libs are hilarious. If someone disagrees with you use terms like llama has used in its last two posts. That is why the American people reject you. You act as if you want an honest debate yet the minute someone shares an opposing view you resort to names. This is hilarious. Long live the Patriot Act and the erosion of civil rights!
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Robert Livingston
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Post Number: 1701
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Southerner: Actually, I think llama nailed it. Except the term "greed" is all relative. For instance, you might be described as "greedy" for having not one but two toilets on your frontyard.
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llama
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Southerner;

Names? Just to remind you that it was you who first said I should change my name to Lemming a few posts ago.

You have just proven here for all to see that you have absolutely no credibility and I shall no longer waste any of my time on you.
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Southerner
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, I call you a lemming and you see that as name calling. You libs are priceless. When did calling someone a lemming become derogatory. If you took it that way then you were looking for an argument. You can call me a lemming any time and it won't upset me. If I believe in the issue, then call me and the millions who agree with me a lemming and I will say Thank You. Do you get upset when I call you a liberal? Shouldn't you be proud. I love it when you guys call me a Neo-con because that is a great moniker.

And RL, I may or may not have mulitple toilets in my yard. Either way, when I gotta go I know where to go (and the seat is rarely cold).
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Nohero
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyway, back to the renewed “Patriot” Act.(or the "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism” (USA PATRIOT) Act. The thread title “Bush Wins Again” may be a misnomer.

There should have been more changes before it was renewed. However, while the President obtained the renewal of a modified “Patriot” Act, the fact that it’s been reauthorized has removed a MAJOR campaign issue that the Republicans would use against the Democrats.

How so, you may ask?

Well, opponents of the “Patriot” Act took issue with some of its provisions because they believed those measures were not “Appropriate Tools”, were not “Required”, and certainly weren’t actually ”Uniting and Strengthening America”. It was hard to have a real debate about that, though, since Administration supporters would often respond in a way similar to the response of a poster earlier in this thread: “I am glad to see that you regard the [“Patriot” Act] as 'something wrong in this world' but terrorism you don't.”

Administration supporters had linked attempts to fix the flaws in the “Patriot” Act to being “pro-terrorist”. Remember the "Osama" ads that were run against Max Cleland? So, while the Act should have been fixed more, now that it has been reauthorized, that “pro-terrorist” argument can be junked.

The renewal did make some changes to the old act. The provisions covering “National Security Letters” have been modified. Those “Letters” are the investigative tools used to obtain information from internet service providers, libraries, universities and other institutions. Under the changes, recipients of National Security Letters will now have the right to challenge them in court (they could not, before). Also, recipients of court-approved subpoenas for information in terrorist investigations can now challenge the “gag” requirement that kept them from telling anyone.

Furthermore, the provisions on “National Security Letters” may still be changed. Senator Specter has indicated that he will propose further changes. The debate on those changes will be more focused, and probably better able to address whether the NSLs are overreaching.

Maybe that debate can take place without the Administration supporters labeling people “pro-terrorist”, like they did before.
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ae35unit
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Southerner,

I just have to say, I have a close friend who is a writer and quite capable comedy writer when it's required. He started trolling on a national political thread to create a body of work, kind of like the Jerky Boys meets serious political blog. The stuff was hysterical. I'd read the stuff and cry laughing. It was over the top. He had to stop basically because people actually took him seriously and he was getting threats and such, and well, he decide it wasn't worth it. I could not believe people took him seriously. People went nuts though.
Do you write to evoke a response, or to share your political views?

Llama says: "Forget about Bin Laden. We got Saddam!!! We are winning the "war on terror!" Lets turn over our ports to the UAE! It all makes so much sense (if your brain is the size of a peanut or you are in complete denial). Just don't think about the generations of hatred that we created for our children's future."

Do you honestly not see the point that is being made? Or are you too, trying to create a body of work, except not funny, but tragic?
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The SLK Effect
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1062
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ae35unit-

as opposed to?

-SLK
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Southerner
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ae,
I don't owe you any explanation. I've tried in the past and have given up. Let's just get it out of the way for you and you can begin calling me names if you like. I like Bush, I like his policies, and I like most of what he has done. I don't need to go issue by issue. You can have your opinion and I'll have mine. If you agree with llama and that paragraph then fine. I don't need to refute it. The election results refute it. I don't feel the need to discuss ad naseum why liberals are wrong. It is obvious they are wrong which is why they have not only been thrown out of power, but have been destroyed as a party the last two elections. I know the Presidential elections were close but look at the entire country. Governorships, State Legislatures, the Congress have all seen huge Republican gains. I have no problem reading yours and llama's posts, but don't assume you are correct. But if you want to be the type of poster like llama who calls anyone who disagrees "ignorant" then please do. I'll read it, get a chuckle, and then give you a reality check. And the shame for your side is the American people never left you. The Democratic Party left the American people. If you can't see it, then I can understand why you don't know how to take my posts. And lastly, in regards to llamas post, Arabs have been screaming death to America for generations. We haven't created any new enemies. They've been there the entire time.
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damn, Southerner, why you gotta be hatin' on Arabs? Talk about ignorant. Sorry, I know I tease you a lot but that statement really is ignorant. Arabs have NOT been screaming Death to America. Islamic militants have. It's no wonder you have no problem with Bush. Man, I'm glad your type lives far away from the civilized world.
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ae35unit
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK-
As opposed to honest and informed. Lib basically called us a bunch of humorless suckers yesterday and to some extent Lib is right. You can get your barbs in, but back it up, or at least crack me up. I'm not saying you're not honest and I'm not saying you're not informed, but sometimes I wonder about these threads.......

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The SLK Effect
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1068
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RL,

Are you ever going to rise above the typical liberal -ist name calling?

I know it is really all about you so you can sleep better at night but really now....

-SLK
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CFA
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Post Number: 1603
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 2:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you stalking RL?
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Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston

Post Number: 1730
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 2:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CFA: It's weird his obsession with me, right? Do you think I have a case?

Scrotis: I sleep great at night...every night

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The SLK Effect
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1089
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 3:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

with that kinky wife of yours I am not surprised....

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