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themp
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Username: Themp

Post Number: 2644
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/07/AR2006030701403. html

Now some genius is going to post the following: " Oh, so now you love Bruce Bartlett. Democrats don't have any ideas so they will embrace any criticism of Bush."

But that misses the point. I think this is interesting because many of these criticism are citicisms that any patriotic liberal, moderate, or conservative would agree with, and only a fanatical and small base of security conservatives, or neo-cons, or whatever, would disagree with. Bad idea to torture, check. Spending out of control, check (even if it were all spent on school lunches and tuition grants, I think the increased spending it too far out of balance with revenue). Suspension of habeus corpus, bad idea. Contempt for democratic processes, bad; contempt for openness and acountability, bad, etc.

Furthermore, personally, I like the dialectic between true conservatives and moderates (lets face it, we have darn few liberals in government here). Like osteoclasts and osteoblasts, tearing down and rebuilding the human skeleton, or tides rising and falling, the shifting tensions serve to refresh American political life. I am depressed by the extreme party loyalty I see among republicans.
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kendalbill
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Username: Kendalbill

Post Number: 141
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 3:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Iis amazing that Bush supporters continue to call Bush "conservative". To compare Bush, issue by issue, with Reagan, Buckley, Goldwater...you'd quickly see the difference.

I've said it on other threads- I might disagree with many conservative priciples, but at least they were principles. I'm not sure what guides Bush. At this point, I would welcome some good old conservative values as applied to spending and gov't intrusion into our lives.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 12798
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 3:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Andrew Tobias keeps saying, it's a great time to be rich and powerful in America.

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