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Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1718
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:23 pm: | 
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/09/port.security/index.html
Good. It was amazing that the president would risk national security for one of his crony deals. |
The SLK Effect
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1064
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:25 pm: |
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RL,
Yes, I would like to thank the Dems for illustrating they too can engage in profiling and scaremongering tactics....
-SLK |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1719
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:26 pm: |
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Actually, Scrotis, the Republicans killed this deal. Pay attention. |
Nohero
Supporter
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5153
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:28 pm: |
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Well, it's kind of a "Bush wins", also. If this actually comes about, the whole Dubai ports deal becomes a non-issue, and the President doesn't have to make any decisions at all. |
Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1644
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:29 pm: |
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Bush loses . Will not seek re election.
Republican Congress wins.
Democrats see campaign issue go Dubai bye bye. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1720
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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I think Americans got the point that Bush's first priority is his crony deals.
ITMFA!!! |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2554
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:39 pm: |
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Guy, I would like to thank you for having a sense of humor throughout the past few days of posts. I've been a bit bored at work (obvious from my huge increase in posting volume), and the humor, however minor, gives me a small laugh inside.
(is there a cream for that?) |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 805
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:39 pm: |
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Another great strategic move by the Republicans. This entire story was a set up from the beginning. Bush, not having to run again, and Rove, not yet indicted, came up with this masterful diversion that would 1) turn the attention away from the normal pessimistic drumbeat, and 2)would allow Congressional Repubs to look like the hero's. I love this. I told you Dems in another post this was your opportunity. Little did I know the fix was in from the beginning! Now, let's get back to whining about Iraq and Diebold. And this just in - Rove is still not indicted. |
Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1645
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:42 pm: |
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Rastro,  |
dave23
Citizen
Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1453
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 3:51 pm: |
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Southerner is right. Their plan all along was to make Bush look like a fool. (Your comment "whining about Iraq" is about as cynical as one can get. Remove your amateur political wonk glasses for a moment and consider what you just said.) |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5314
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 4:00 pm: |
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If DPW gets an "American Entity" to run terminal operations in the US and the deal goes through, Bush wins if I read the latest news correctly.
Perhaps Congress looks security minded to the uninformed. Those that really know will see that Democrats barked and Republican weenies got out from behind the polls to put deal-killing legislation in place after only 6 days of the 45 day 'review.' It wasn't anything about security. It was all about looking good in an election year. |
CageyD
Citizen
Username: Cageyd
Post Number: 645
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 4:28 pm: |
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I agree with southerner
this whole brew haha was a diversion to distract from the domestic spying issue. We were all so focused on Dubai, who was concerned with domestic spying????
I just heard yesterday that the congress decided that instead of pursuing and investigation of Bush's illegal spying, they will set up a committee to monitor future actions. Then SURPISE, the Dubai ports thing evaporates the next day. Has Rove written all over it. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 807
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 5:45 pm: |
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Cagey,
Be careful agreeing with me. It's contagious and you'll be ridiculed. What domestic spying? That issue is over and all the Dems steam from 2005 has been evaporated. It's an election year and the Repubs are ready to finally engage in the political battle. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3305
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 5:46 pm: |
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But...But...But I said that on this Board on February 24 ("Outrageous acts to smokescreen Cheney guilt" ) and got attacked by a right-wing barrage that turned into a donneybrook. Now, I will say again... I TOLD YOU SO!!
Someone please say "Tulip, that was brilliant!!!" |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 809
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 7:25 pm: |
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tulip,
You were a little right. This thing wasn't orchestrated as a smokescreen for the little stuff. It was intended for the big stuff. Only the fringe thought Fitz would ever get to Cheney. However, the tenor about the wiretaps was gaining steam and was growing bigger by the week. Luckily, Rove came through again. I'll give you half credit. Your making progress. Would you be willing to give us your prediction for the Congressional race? It's a very simple prediction. Only one party will control the Senate and only one party will control the House. What's your prediction? |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5316
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 7:40 pm: |
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Southerner -- To say that Bush/Rove set this up to divert from something going into an off-year election that may or may not hurt Republicans is ridiculous. Your endless gamesmanship posts on a macro-level in terms of party positioning occasionally score, though they usually land in the country of Obvious. Here you're in Tulipville.
Come on -- this was to distract from 'bigger stuff' when the Libby trial will happen a year from now? If then? Gimme a break. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3306
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:04 pm: |
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Hey, cjc, don't knock Tulipville. Three stars on the school report card, relatively clean air, nice bikeriding and historic homes...good place...
Anyway, to answer Southerner (who now warrants a capital S thanks to his concessions to me) hmmmm, let's see. OK, Congressional race...I predict the House will go to the Democrats. Republicans will, unfortunately, hold on to the Senate.
And as for 2008, it'll be McCain vs. Clinton, * with the former squeaking a win, unfortunately, because red staters, and some blue staters, will not really want a woman president, no matter how logical the choice in this case.
*Clinton's running mate will be Menendez.
Anyway, thank God the Congress won this one. I don't know what your guys are thinking!!
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cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5318
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:12 pm: |
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No one is really thinking on this one, tulip. That's usually when some of this country's most noteworthy legislation passes. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3307
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:16 pm: |
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Which may be why some of legislation is so inspired, courageous, of the people, by the people, etc., etc., etc. |
CageyD
Citizen
Username: Cageyd
Post Number: 647
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:23 pm: |
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If clinton chooses an hispanic I would hope she would try Bill Richardson to deflect some of the east coast bias so many people have |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3308
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:33 pm: |
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True. It's just that Menendez has been more visible recently, with the Dubai situation. Richardson would be excellent as well. It just wouldn't be enough to pull votes toward Hillary when so many men...and women...can't trust or imagine a woman as president.
If she had Thomas Jefferson as her running mate, I don't think she'd win. I do think she should run in the primaries. If she wins there, she has to be our candidate. I just know we'll lose the hidden and not so hidden misogynist vote.
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tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3309
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:43 pm: |
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But, she would be a great president. I have always thought that a woman would make an excellent president, because having experienced childbirth, as many women do, she would know how much effort it takes to bring a child into the world, and would be far more hesitant to put human lives at risk in war. Of course, most men are aware of this effort as well, but have not experienced it first hand.
This is not about analysis, but it's still about patriotism, and about a culture of progess, not of incompetence.
Resources would go to schools and health care.
We have a wounded nation, now, and we need a natural, national healer.
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Nohero
Supporter
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5161
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:47 pm: |
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Quote:"I have always thought that a woman would make an excellent president, because having experienced childbirth, as many women do, she would know how much effort it takes to bring a child into the world, and would be far more hesitant to put human lives at risk in war."
One could say the same thing about a Lynne Cheney presidential campaign, but one might be incorrect.
Not the "childbirth" part, but the "war" part ... |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3310
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:55 pm: |
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True, nohero, and motherhood didn't stop Margaret Thatcher from readily engaging in war.
I stand corrected. |
Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 1898
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:07 pm: |
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Imagine DPW being so naive as to trust the word of the U.S. government. |
Nohero
Supporter
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5168
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:13 pm: |
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Quote:Imagine DPW being so naive as to trust the word of the U.S. government.
Or, vice versa. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4496
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:46 pm: |
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the ports will no doubt go to an intensely crony-istic connection of Bush or Cheney. They better hope that the Diebold people do their job, because if the Dems take over the house he is SOOOOO impeached. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1635
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 11:24 pm: |
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Now, it would be just great if all the brouhaha and kerfuffle about DWP and its government owners managing our 6 key east coast ports would result in a real examination and improvement of US port security performance and capability.
Then we could move the focus away from that misbegotten, ill-advised, poorly conceived transaction with DWP and turn it to making the ports as tight as possible against terrorist infiltration.
What a thought! Doing something efficient and effective at the national level for a change! |
CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 1602
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 3:37 am: |
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Again, SLK comments 2 minutes after Robert Livingston. This happened in 2 other posts as well. They are definitely the same person. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10906
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:03 am: |
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I don't think it is over. My guess, from the sketchy information available, is that Dubai PW is going to set up a 100 percent owned U.S. subsidiary to run the ports here. The officers and most of the directors will be American, but Dubai PW will still get the profits and run the show.
If this passes muster with Congress or not is an open question.
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Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 810
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:41 am: |
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cjc,
Come on. You know me better than that. I figure if the looney left can find conspiracies in every matter that I'd give it a shot. It's actually an enjoyable exercise to believe that X-Files exist and "24" is a glimpse of reality!
I'm not here to debate every little detail of every governmental issue. These liberal posters are too far gone for that. And your OBVIOUS remark is dead on. Someone has to point out the obvious to these lovable lefties. Do you not see how they freak out at the obvious? It's hilarious. Here's something obvious that will freak them out - there is no way the Repubs lose either house of Congress. I think a few incumbent Repubs may be in trouble but they will be replaced by new Repubs. You guys really do need to get out a little more. Red America will not elect the party of Sheehan and Carter, and these two are on the networks more than any other Dem.
Here's another one - Bush won re-election - Boo!. Now they can start slamming me because I said something that is true. How long until they bring up polls? It's hilarious and OBVIOUS. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4503
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 12:53 am: |
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