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Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1746
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 9:05 am: | 
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In his Jan. 31 State of the Union address, Bush said, “As we make progress on the ground, and Iraqi forces increasingly take the lead, we should be able to further decrease our troop levels."
March 15: More Troops Moving Into Iraq
Guess there's no progress on the ground. In fact, the opposite...way to go Mr. President!
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Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1657
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 9:09 am: |
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Quick, call Feingold.
This is related to upcoming holiday pilgrimage, but you knew that already.
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 5950
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 9:40 am: |
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RL...when you post this junk you really bring down the opposition party. Do you even read these things?? If so, can you tell me who Martin is??
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Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1749
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 11:30 am: |
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I see your point, Duncan. That was piss poor writing there, and I clearly missed it. Nevertheless, there are many other articles that support the main fact of the story in that troop levels will be INCREASING despite what Bush told America.
(I have a letter to the editor in to CBS3-Philly.) |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 921
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 12:56 pm: |
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Guy and Duncan - you are both missing the point. The point is the President once again set the level on where we stand in Iraq during his SOTU speech. He claimed all is well and that troop levels would decrease because Iraqis are able to police and provide for their own security - even though he tempered it by saying the decisions would be made by the military commanders.
He didnt say troop levels would be increased if necessary so he purposely led us to believe all is well, again falsely.
Anyone really looking at Iraq now would not think that anything is well. There is a civil war going on there. The numbers we hear about daily dying there are not only numbers they are people. Every time an Shia kills a Sunni and vice versa the road to full blown conflict is amplified and the road to peace is exponentially decreased.
Our own national security has been compromised by our invasion, our military is stretched thin and our treasury is empty |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 5953
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 1:00 pm: |
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hoops, I am definately not missing the point. But I dislink posts like this because they cloud the very clear argument that backs exactly what you are saying. RL's posts tend to have too much noise and bluster, when there are more concise and credible things to link to. |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 925
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 2:37 pm: |
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Ok. Actually the 'bluster' of RL's posts serve as a good counter point to the dull throb of most of the right wing arguments.
See, I prefer inclusion.
Speaking only for myself I notice that each poster has their own style and their own way of expressing their positions. Some are eloquent and some are juvenile. Some are unfocused and some are sharp as a blade. I dont know where I fall, I only know that each post cant be a great one.
Anyway I generally count on you to help put clarity on an issue. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1754
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 2:48 pm: |
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Thanks, Hoops. I feel it's important to be entertaining, cause really, what's the point here anyway? Which is why I'm very disappointed in some other posters who tend to be humorless basket cases, not to mention any names.
Anyway, I thought my first post here was fairly on point. The article had a regrettable attribution error, but that's hardly my fault.
The bottom line is that Bush mislead the country yet again. He is continuing to do so by denying that Iraq is devolving into civil war. With a civil war, and Bush betting his entire presidency on Iraq, he'll spend the rest of his predidency convincing us that all is well, when clearly it is not. You know, there is a reason troop levels are INCREASING.
Bush will go down as possibly the worst president in the history of our country. People who voted for him will be able to tell their grandkids that fact (how's that for bluster?)
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Duncan
Supporter
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 5954
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 2:57 pm: |
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RL...if you think what you post is entertaining then you are, indeed, too far gone. In your clearer moments to bring some insight to the board, but all too often, like Tulip, you devolve into a shouting radical whose bluster (thats right) drowns out his message.
Have you found out who Martin is? At least you are reading entire posts now. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1756
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 3:06 pm: |
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Duncan: Here's the NYTimes version of the story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/14/politics/14cnd-military.html
I admitted previously I failed to notice the attribution error. Would you like a pound of flesh for compensation for my linking to an inaccurate piece?
How do you feel about the troop increase? And what Bush said during his SOTU?
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tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3325
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 3:08 pm: |
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Duncan: I am not shouting, and I am not a radical. I know a lot about a lot of things, and I often disagree with you, especially in 2003, when you decided some people should not be allowed to be parents. (sic) You don't need to put me in the same category as southerner or slk. I believe what I believe, and I usually back up my beliefs with information. You may not like my sources, but that doesn't mean I am a radical. I lead a life in which I make real contributions to society, and for a playwright, you sound a bit McCarthyistic, if you think I am a radical. Too bad.
I really resent your typecasting me. I have had reasonable discussions with you.
Cut out the character assassination.
It is a form of harassment.
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tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3326
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 3:14 pm: |
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Come to think of it, Duncan, what do you believe? Your icon shows a halo-bedecked figure. Is that how you see yourself? Who would YOU back for a candidate, anyway? Posters like you and sbenois, who I think is really humorous and clever most of the time, take no consistent position at ALL. What in the world do you stand for? At least you know where I stand. No one has a clue about you, as far as I can see....
But what you have in common with the right wing on this board, is you are a great scold. You love to put yourself in the position of being a perfect person, who has all the knowledge, while everyone else is imperfect.
Not so. We all have rays of perfection and imperfection in our aura, even you, Duncan.
By the way, Duncan, do you work for a living, or just post against people who do, while they are working?
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 12964
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 3:49 pm: |
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I think the word would be behaloed.
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Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 926
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 3:53 pm: |
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as long as its not beheaded...
I think its an image of Peter Townsend tho. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1757
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 3:56 pm: |
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Empty Glass, minus the hot chicks. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 14710
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 7:39 pm: |
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I was going to answer Tulip's post, but I decided not to because she failed to pay proper respect to Pete Townshend.
Not cool. I know that my fellow Who freak Duncan will be equally pissed.
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tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3332
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 7:58 pm: |
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Oh, please forgive me. I am totally deficient in the Who area of expertise. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 14711
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 8:01 pm: |
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and hurricanes |
Duncan
Supporter
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 5956
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 8:12 pm: |
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Do I work? what on God's green earth does that have to do with anything? Except as a really lame attempt at a dig. Of course I work. It just so happens that my work time coincides with almost everyone else's leisure time. Not that it is any of your business. I am not now nor have I ever been a playwright, by the way. I would be interested in knowing how I can border on McCarthy-ite when I make the very same observations about stuff that comes from the right? And yes, you back up your posts with "information" but then, so do cjc, SLK, and the rest of the right. Why is your information acceptable and theirs not? because you are always right? C'mon....open up.
At least RL knows his album cover art when he sees it. Good on ya RL...minus the hot chicks indeed.
See Tulip...the thing is I don't see the world in black and white. There are a thousand shades of gray. And there is too much at stake, in my humble opinion, to just grab the side of the bus and ride no matter where it goes. I am thrilled that you are comfortable with your positions. though at times you come across as certifibly paranoid. I find that, quite often, your posting against the administration is terrifically shrill. There are better advocates for the left than you. Just as I find Straw's posting for the administration terrifically shrill. I think I have made it clear in my posting history that I am a "stupid lib" but just as I dislike the hyperbole of the right, I dislike it more from the left.
I still think some people should not be allowed to be parents, but that doesn't mean I advocate neutering in humans, or eugenics or anything. Are you able to see the gray area there???
is this avatar better?? its David Bowie ICYDK
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