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Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1010
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 10:26 pm: | 
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Dumb freakin Dem senators, Spinless Dem Senators, They make me wanna puke. I wanna sLaP dem dems SILLY. ARRRGGGGgg
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_03/008435.php |
Blew
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1344
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 5:45 pm: |
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Who wants censure? I want impeachment.
I'm not sure I'd cry if W was to suddenly not be here any longer. |
kenney
Citizen
Username: Kenney
Post Number: 754
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 6:41 pm: |
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go dems go...the party of protestors..go baby go. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3339
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 6:52 pm: |
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kenny: go to hell. |
kenney
Citizen
Username: Kenney
Post Number: 755
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 7:03 pm: |
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I'm trying. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1694
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 7:04 pm: |
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Tulip:
No, no. Easy on Kenny. He obviously has a very hard time living with the fact that his vote elected the most incompetent, naive administration that this country has seen since Ulysses S. Grant slumped over in the White House in an alcoholic stupor.
It's too bad GWB and DC don't at least have THAT excuse for their rank mismanagement of the affairs of state.
At least Bill Clinton had affairs beyond affairs of state, lucky guy. GWB has only Laura pumping reading to underfunded schools and his mom telling Katrina refugees how lucky they are to be inhabiting the Astrodome in Houston.
All GWB seems to be doing is putting on scary masks to terrify us with the latest "enemy of the week:" one week it's Iraq, next it's Al Qaeda, next it's Iran, then Iraq again.
Be careful: rumour has it that Bush has targeted Liechtenstein as next scary enemy of the week. |
kenney
Citizen
Username: Kenney
Post Number: 757
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 7:14 pm: |
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please...if you are going to pretend to know something about history, you should at least know President Grant's time in office is considered a success inspite of the internal corruption within his administration. if you would like to compare this President with a bad one, try the flamer Buchanan. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3342
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 7:27 pm: |
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Grant presided over a disastrous financial collapse. He was a great general and a terrible president. Compare Bush with Jackson.
Innisowen: I know that's kenny's problem. Again, when the Repubs are in trouble, they try to bite and sting. Poor things.
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Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1696
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 7:32 pm: |
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Kenney:
I was going to try Millard Fillmore, but his name has been over-used in the comparison game pitting GWB against other classic incompetents who have occupied the presidency.
There are, however, numerous bits of historical evidence to rank Grant's administration one of the worst in terms of corruption, even though Grant's personal integrity seemed to be secure, as you point out, Kenney.
As a leader he failed to reassure the country or take decisive action in the Panic of 1873, and never really took action to discipline any of his underlings caught in the numerous scandals that occurred in his administration.
Nice to see, however, that you agree that one could compare the current president with another tone-deaf dolt, such as Buchanan.
Punch-drunk Grant, idiot Fillmore, dolt Buchanan = all good comparisons to GWB. |
kenney
Citizen
Username: Kenney
Post Number: 759
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 7:43 pm: |
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last i checked on the economic front jobs, gdp, cpi and a number of other indicators were pretty good...and i haven't had to run down the stairs of building in a really long time...you have to be a clueless idiot to think our efforts in the middle east to bring long term peace and stability are not going well...but again, this is mol. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3345
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 7:46 pm: |
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Read the polls, it's not just MOL, mister.
You;ve had your nose up your pocket too long. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1016
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 7:50 pm: |
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It turns out Russ Feingolds approval numbers have jumped. Imagine that doing the right thing as a DEM strategy, if only the rest of the DEM pukes would open their eyes. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4569
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 7:52 pm: |
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Don't forget real drunk Franklin Pierce. A pro-slavery New Englander, hard to imagine.
Grant did have some good qualities, he picked up the ball on reconstruction where Johnson had muffed it, and his relations with the indian tribes were, relatively speaking, enlightened. I'd take him over Bush II. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1699
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:00 pm: |
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Kenney:
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I am afraid that events have overtaken your refusal to accept reality. Real wages are down. Jobs are being created at a strong pace, yes, but in low-wage sectors.
Now, if you are able to look at what the Bush administration has done to cause even more instability in the middle east than already was the case, and you can dare call that progress towards long term peace and stability, then you must be a firm and resolute believer in CHAOS THEORY.
Because that is the only possible explanation for your point of view. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1700
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:10 pm: |
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On the other hand, Kenney, it is quite possible that you neither read nor view but live in comfortable isolation from reality. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1020
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 9:14 pm: |
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We just had lattes on the veranda this morning. Bob & his wife joined us, it was just wonderful.
We must do it again after we get back from Paris. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1021
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 9:20 pm: |
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I hope Kenny wakes up before the revolution starts.
Its slated to start in '07, Kenny. |
tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4139
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:13 pm: |
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If the war in Iraq does not have a tolerable outcome or better, Bush will eventually be remembered as the most damaging President in U.S. history.
The performance of poor Presidents of the 19th Century don't compare to the damage being caused by the Bush Administration. In the 19th Century, the Federal government had less importance to the daily functioning of the nation. As a nation, we enjoyed autarky and the affairs of the rest of the world were not terribly important. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1024
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:53 pm: |
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Excellent point tjohn.
Kinda like:
Farming vs Nukes
Bending the plow, or attacking the wrong country. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1703
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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Well, tjohn, your remarks are quite applicable to this president.
He seems to be governing the way you would expect of someone who might have trouble transitioning from the 19th to the 20th Century.
I'm surprised that GWB doesn't try to resurrect the "Great White Fleet" and send it sailing around to unfriendly ports of call.
He has managed to defecate metaphorically on more than 100 years of diplomacy, international accords, and progress.
That probably doesn't matter to the neocons, but they have a record of never pulling their heads out of their arses anyway. |
Grrrrrrrrrrr
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 411
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 12:00 am: |
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Innis, why all the name calling? At least yours were not bannable offenses like Tulip's...The censure thing seems to be gaining momentum, but really, what will it accomplish other than satisfying the bloodlust of Democrats? |
Grrrrrrrrrrr
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 413
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 12:09 am: |
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Innis, I just read some of the other threads...I didn't have the whole picture with the Kenny thing...lol! |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3352
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 7:20 am: |
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GRRRRR: This isn't about kenny or Innis or me or you. Millions of people are marching all over the world today. Are you saying you and your little tax cut are more important than all the children bombed and maimed in the Middle East as the result of this bannable president's behavior?
Your grandchildren (if you have any) will be suffering as a result of what this presidency has wrought on the human species, from neglect and rape of the environment, to violation of the sovereignty and advocacy of continued violation of the sovereignty of nations.
We have a major monster of an administration in the white house, and if you ever venture outside of your little circle of life and work, you will see what devastation your beliefs have brought on this world.
You should be totally ashamed of yourself.
When individuals are not defended, they will do anything to defend themselves. If you ever felt undefended, as you now are, in actuality, you would know. On this board, you are beginning to feel undefended, because a president you thought was your ace in the hole is now viewed fairly universally as a dud, for all sorts of reasons.
And you are beginning to behave even more indefensibly than you did when you cast your vote for this reign of terror.
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Grrrrrrrrrrr
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 414
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 12:14 pm: |
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Tulip, don't you have to be at a protest today? Your generalizations and prejudices are laughable. Please don't include me in them. You have no idea what you're talking about. Please don't fall in the river. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3354
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 2:30 pm: |
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Grrr: Your defensive posture, as represented by your name, is your biggest problem. Stop baring your teeth at the world. Relax, let the world happen to you, and you'll stop wanting to blow everyone up. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1707
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 2:32 pm: |
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Grrrrrrrrr,
I'm not quite sure where Tulip was intending to go with that posting above.
Happy to see you understood the "Kenney thing."
My current thinking is that GWB is our generation's Fulgencio Batista.
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tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3355
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 2:39 pm: |
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Innis: Anyone who supports Bush's foreign policy of preemptive strikes, seems to me to want to justify blowing everyone up depending upon their perceived level of danger. No?
Never mind.
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Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1708
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 3:02 pm: |
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Tulip:
I was referring to your posting number 3352 above, whose drift I found difficult to catch.
I do not support this "president's" policies, and I do not consider him my president. I have as much of a problem with 3 more years of his and his administration's blatant stupidity as anyone on this board.
You want a real scare about this guy and his ilk? Read Kevin Phillips' new book, American Theocracy.
It's reviewed in tomorrow's NYTimes Book Reviews. I received an advance copy about 5 weeks ago.
It will scare you more than you might be scared now, when it comes to that blundering, clueless regime now in power in DC, but who would look less out of place in Paraguay or Somoza's Nicaragua. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3357
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 4:04 pm: |
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Innisowen: I do appreciate your articulate, measured responses to statements on this message board that not only scare me, but confuse and enrage me.
With so many global voices now outraged about Iraq, how can Maplewood have so many Bush proponents? I suppose it's socioeconomic.
Obviously, you are a man of the world, have seen more of the world than many in Maplewood, and so can bring some of that insight to the community.
You are doing it in an intelligent way.
I wish I were as skilled at communication as you are, and as able to contain my outrage.
With my own sons caught in the middle of this, and with my own memories of college life during the Viet Nam era, I cannot feel dispassionate toward this situation. I railed against it right here on the message board even before it began.
More importantly, the role of the United States is now completely the big bad guy, and the results of that behavior of aggression are so sad and unfortunate in human terms.
How can this once great nation have stooped so low, and been so boondoggled?
How will we cure ourselves of the remnants of this administration, economic, social, political, environmental and global, once it's really over?
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Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1710
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 4:27 pm: |
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Don't know the answer, Tulip, except to refuse to knuckle under to the nitwits, uber-patriots, and mindless neocons who have benefited from the social programs of the past 50 years, and, now that they have gotten the power that they sought for 50 years, who feel free to regard the planet as their vinyl-sided toy. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3359
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 5:16 pm: |
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So well said, Innisowen. |
The SLK Effect
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1111
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 5:32 pm: |
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tulip-
Although I rarely agree with him, Innis has proven to be one bright puppy....a bit cranky these days but...
you on the other hand...
Not that I expect you to notice but I haven't been on these boards for a while, or at least not often as I use too.
Everytime I even have the notion to log on, Morrissey's tune "The World is Full of Crashing Bores" spins in my head.
Adios (hopefully for good this time)...
-SLK |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1714
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 6:05 pm: |
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SLK:
You keep promising not to appear on these boards again as often as the chambermaid turns down my bedspread at the Park Hyatt.
Please don't look for pity, sympathy, or understanding. We're fresh out, and by the way, this is only a chat board. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1026
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 7:22 pm: |
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and SLK keeps waxing about Morrissey.
Whats up with that SLK?
Tulip- yes Innis has many redeming qualitys. |
Grrrrrrrrrrr
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 416
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 10:09 pm: |
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We need more Morrissey on these boards...the "Moz Terrorist" thread was one of the better ones we've had lately. Now, if only Fredo had kept his mouth shut...Didn't Castro say once that "Neoliberalism can only be succeeded by socialism"? |
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