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The SLK Effect
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1107
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 4:51 pm: | 
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Innyboy-
What is your deal man? Ever since you "returned from out of the country" you have been one grumpy SOB.
What is the scoop?
-SLK |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1715
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 6:41 pm: |
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SLK,
I'm still in the country, as you put it, but I have decided to be more forthright in expressing my distaste for inept, incompetent politicians, horrendous national leaders such as the one now living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and, most of all, poor grammar and spelling, such as the kind you provide on MOL.
Education should give us at least two things: the ability to write logically and spell correctly , and the ability to sniff out and identify national leaders whose lack of competence would put Dinny Dimwit to shame.
It upsets me more and more that citizens of this country appear to have been cheated on both scores.
By the way, I understood you to say in a posting only a little while ago that you were going to "take your ball and glove and go in and cry to your mam." What happened? Couldn't keep to the plan? |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 14746
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 6:55 pm: |
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I like Innisowen's posts. |
Grrrrrrrrrrr
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 418
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 10:17 pm: |
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SLK, I like Innis' posts too...It's getting harder and harder to explain away some of this stuff. Luckily the only competent people in the Bush Administration are the spin doctors...hahaha! |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4883
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 10:34 pm: |
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... until we recently, I never paid him much attention! I’ll say this “S", I'm glad we buried the hatchet, the man puts up a good fight.
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cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5381
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 11:08 am: |
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As for spellin' and writin', I'm sure that can be remedied by another record amount of cash going into the system. It's worked so well in the past. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1718
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 11:15 am: |
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CJC,
You can't educate people in a country where education is not valued, and in which the reigning oligarch takes pride in his legacy admission/gentleman's D's from Yale. Let's not mention his failures to improve the quality of education available to the general public in Texas. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1719
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 11:18 am: |
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AJC,
We haven't buried the hatchet! We've just put it down for a spell.
It's too much fun to beat the crapola out of each other, and then plan to help some local kids so we can do some good without regard to politics.
I'm serious about doing whatever I can to help your program.
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Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1720
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 11:20 am: |
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By the way, I find it a point of pride to have someeone (even SLK) devote a thread to me.
Maybe next time he'll devote a whole Sea Island cotton shirt (something more than a thread). |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5384
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 11:35 am: |
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Innisowen -- are you saying education is not valued here, which is why we spend more than most countries on it and look to increase spending going forward despite dismal returns on the investment.
Maybe we don't value money. Or we've been educated to accept this. At least Bush has dared to put the concept of accountability into the system.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2003-09-16-education-comparison_x.htm
WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States spends more public and private money on education than other major countries, but its performance doesn't measure up in areas ranging from high-school graduation rates to test scores in math, reading and science, a new report shows.
"There are countries which don't get the bang for the bucks, and the U.S. is one of them," said Barry McGaw, education director for the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which produced the annual review of industrialized nations.
The United States spent $10,240 per student from elementary school through college in 2000, according to the report. The average was $6,361 among more than 25 nations.
The range stretched from less than $3,000 per student in Turkey, Mexico, the Slovak Republic and Poland to more than $8,000 per student in Denmark, Norway, Austria and Switzerland.
The report cited Australia, Finland, Ireland, Korea and the United Kingdom as examples of OECD nations that have moderate spending on primary and lower secondary education but high levels of performance by 15-year-olds in key subject areas.
As for the United States, it finished in the middle of the pack in its 15-year-olds' performance on math, reading and science in 2000, and its high-school graduation rate was below the international average in 2001 — figures highlighted by Education Secretary Rod Paige.........
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Grrrrrrrrrrr
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 420
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 12:11 pm: |
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cjc, unfortunately a lot of the spending goes to appeasing the teacher's unions...higher pay and benefits, but not necessarily better teachers. NYC is a perfect example of this. Randi Weingarten and the UFT are solely responsible for the poor quality in education in NYC. It's a vicious cycle...Supposedly better pay will attract/keep better teachers, but based on my personal experiences, that is often not the case. The money needs to go more into resources and facilities. |
joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 190
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |
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Bush had a higher grade point average at Yale than did Kerry.
But, a lesser haircut.
jd |
SO1969
Citizen
Username: Bklyn1969
Post Number: 244
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 2:06 pm: |
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And Cheney couldn't even stick with it...he dropped out and went back to Wyoming...and he's supposed to be the one smart enough to really run the joint.
While I'm no fan of Bush's, I'm not sure targeting his weak academic performance as a possible reason for the messes he's created is the most effective or even most accurate line of attack.
A number of presidents were strong leaders and mediocre students - FDR jumps to mind. I'm not sure about Truman, but I'm not sure that he even went to college.
The Republicans loved to harp on the Character issue when Clinton got caught getting a BJ in WH, but how hard have they looked at Bush and Cheney's characters?
Two men who ran as fast as they could from serving in Vietnam ("other priorities") when it was their generation's time to serve and now, when they and their kin are well out of harm's way, they repeatedly lie and mislead the nation about events in Iraq and continue to put young and middle aged men and women in harm's way. This is just the biggest example of the quality of their characters.
Their morality and character is also shown in their misrepresentations about the impact of their fiscal policies and in the quality of the administration of government agencies responsible for the safety and well being of our natural and human resources.
I don't care so much that Bush got gentleman Ds or Cs or As. I do care that he's got horrible judgment and that he is mean spiritedly selfish in his outlook and that his own insecurities and Daddy issues have led him to make huge, repeated mistakes that we will be cleaning up for several decades to come.
It seems like all you have to do to win the Republican seal of approval on character and morality is go to bed early, be at the office early (long breaks for exercise and nites and long weekends off are fine), wear a tie and jacket at all times when photographed in the WH, and keep the hanky panky out of the office.
The quality and morality of the policy decisions you make and the competence you exhibit in running the government don't seem to matter.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 1992
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 2:26 pm: |
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I'd be curious to know what we spend per pupil on health insurance for school employees. In no other industrialized country do school districts pay for health coverage. |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 1993
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 2:28 pm: |
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and the same goes for pensions. |
Grrrrrrrrrrr
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 421
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 3:05 pm: |
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both excellent points Doktor. See my post above... |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4888
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 3:32 pm: |
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"We haven't buried the hatchet! We've just put it down for a spell."
I can "dig" that... 
BTW, I'll be in touch as soon as I speak to Mo and his goalie coach Des. If you have any suggestions, or for that matter if anyone knows anything about the boys and girls soccer programs in town, please give me a call or a PL... |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 1994
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 4:42 pm: |
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Grrrrrrrrrrr,
I'm not raising the same point you're making. in other countries, labor unions don't even have to ask for health or pension benefits because they're already provided universally by the government. every citizen's taxes are of course paying for such benefits just as we are here for public employees, it just doesn't figure into per-pupil educations costs.
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Grrrrrrrrrrr
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 424
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 5:17 pm: |
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OK, still good points. SO how do we fix our problems here? Bring Fidel Castro in to run the economy, or abolish labor unions? As a business owner, I'm for the latter. |
Eats Shoots & Leaves
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 3127
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 5:32 pm: |
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Hey, if Fidel ran this country, at least our national baseball team would do better in the World Baseball Classic!
I'm not so sure that abolishing unions would be a good thing--when I think of my current boss, or others I have worked for, having their way with our field workers with no one to look out for them, it is a bit scarey. It is a pipe dream, but it would be better if unions actually represented their members' interests instead of featherbedding and acting like leeches. And part of that representation would be realistic negotiations with owners so that businesses can keep afloat and continue to employ workers. |
Grrrrrrrrrrr
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 425
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 5:42 pm: |
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Very true ESL...No one needs to look further than GM to see that. FWIW, Monthly bread rations of the Cuban players will be cut to two loaves if they do not bring Fidel the trophy. |
The SLK Effect
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1115
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 8:07 am: |
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Wow, I didn't expect such a reponse....
Inny, as I said before, I hardly agree with you about anything politically but I do like engaging with you. You have proven countless times to be one of the smarter ones on these boards and I respect you greatly even though you can be a royal pain sometimes! 
Just checking in to see if you are ok, that's all...worried about you kid....
Oh, and I can only blame myself for my returns....
-SLK |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1729
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:25 am: |
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Deep bow to you, SLK.
Thank you for enshrining my name. Imagine a thread all to myself and to "me bum."
It's hard to humble when you've been Jesuit-trained.
Doing fine and trying not to work too hard, but for me that's almost impossible. I need to "get a life." |
Darryl Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7001
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 7:55 pm: |
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I too have noticed Innisowen's growth. For the first one thousand posts or so I was convinced we simply had another Llama, CFA on our hand, etc. You know the type, they target other posters and hang on to them every turn hoping the attention that poster receives will in someway give them some personal feeling of self worth.
Instead of becoming another yawn Llama, Innisowen has taken his posts to another level.
Innisowen, I'm proud of you son.  |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1850
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 8:01 pm: |
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I love you too, Straw.
I'm just trying to help Southerner get the knowledge that his education (?) (for lack of a better word) may have overlooked. And fund part of it, if I have to.
And always trying to ski as much as possible. |
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