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Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1784
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:08 am: | 
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A majority of Americans, 56 percent, believe Bush is "out of touch," the poll found. When asked for a one-word description of Bush, the most frequent response was "incompetent," followed by "good," "idiot" and "liar." In February 2005, the most frequent reply was "honest."
http://today.reuters.com/business/newsarticle.aspx?type=tnBusinessNews&storyID=n N16347797 |
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 518
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:14 am: |
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I wonder how common "dumbf*ck" was on the list?
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Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1730
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:31 am: |
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Now, now.
Incompetent is a hard enough adjective to live down.
You're the president of the US; you have engineered a "going-nowhere-fast" war; and you have poured gasoline on your financial house and are walking around it smoking king-size, filter-tip cigarettes.
I can see GWB as Cody Jarrett in White Heat (the James Cagney role) yelling out to his mother amid the conflagration: "Top of the world, Ma!" |
tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4148
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:44 am: |
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I heard a wonderful quote on NPR this morning from Harry Reid, I think. He said (of the Democratic Party), "We have favorable winds. Now, all we need to do is find a sail."
As Southerner is fond of saying and as Kerry found out to his sorrow, being "not Bush" is not a party platform. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1785
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:48 am: |
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tjohn: It should be interesting because being "pro Bush" isn't a viable GOP party platform anymore, either. |
tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4149
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:53 am: |
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And, if I may borrow again from Southerner, I would like to remind people that Bush isn't running for reelection. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1786
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:57 am: |
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tjohn: Please stop paraphrasing Southerner. It's bad enough we have to endure the real deal.
In any case, no Bush is not running again. But his performance/approval ratings affect the future of the Republican party. It's not looking good for them since most Reps (aside from a few hard-liners here) are experiencing serious buyers' remorse. Don't think GOP candidates are not aware of this.
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Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1731
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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bush is not running for re-election, but he is "running" the country (into the ground). |
The SLK Effect
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1116
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 12:33 pm: |
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RL,
Why would someone call Bush "good" in an obvious negative poll?
So what does the other 44% say?
Is this something new? How many ways are you going to skin a cat, RL?
Nothing but a skipping record, kid...
-SLK |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 1996
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 12:54 pm: |
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Why don't you read the poll results if you want to know the answers to those questions?
http://people-press.org/reports/questionnaires/271.pdf |
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 519
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 12:58 pm: |
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I love the "As*" and "Sucks" responses.....so American! |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1787
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 1:09 pm: |
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"Why would someone call Bush "good" in an obvious negative poll?"
I don't see the poll as positive or negative. It is what it is.
"So what does the other 44% say?"
See O'Boogie's point.
"Is this something new?"
As a matter of fact, yes. A year ago the reply was "honest." Or don't you know how to read? Sheesh.
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MBJ
Citizen
Username: Mbj
Post Number: 195
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 1:21 pm: |
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oh good...another Livingston-sponsored anti-bush circle jerk.
Have fun, guys! |
Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6974
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 1:47 pm: |
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Yes, good ole Reuters
"Your terrorist is our freedom fighter." |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 834
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 6:21 pm: |
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tjohn,
It finally sounds like a Dem or two are looking at the underlying numbers and the individual races and realize the constant drumbeat won't cut it. Reid, unlike Pelosi, is beginning to understand, hence his comment.
I say, let the libs and Dems bask in their fairytale glory. In their minds they have already won. I just wish Rather were around to once again announce the results. When will you Dems realize that polls are nothing more than a conservative invention to screw with you. Get me once shame on you, you guys need to learn the rest. |
3ringale
Citizen
Username: Threeringale
Post Number: 104
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 6:33 pm: |
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Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
Napoleon Bonaparte |
Always Right
Citizen
Username: Headsup
Post Number: 301
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 7:11 pm: |
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Competence is overrated. |
Duncan
Supporter
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6012
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 9:58 pm: |
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if the polls that say Bush is doing well are "right" then so is this one. Its like what they say in the theater...If you believe the good reviews you have to believe the bad ones, too. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 837
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 10:14 pm: |
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The only review I believe is on election day. Enjoy the previews because I plan on enjoying the actual show. |
The SLK Effect
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1121
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:13 am: |
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Well put Southerner.
Remember folks, you can make numbers look however you want them to be....
-SLK |
Duncan
Supporter
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6015
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:00 am: |
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To an extent that is true. But when almost every major poll has Bush's approval rating somewhere in the mid to low 30's then I think there is some nugget of truth there. That many disparate polls, all essentially saying the same thing, must have found out some honest reflection of the countrys attitude. |
Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 857
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:08 am: |
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The only review I believe is on election day. Enjoy the previews because I plan on enjoying the actual show.
If the Democrats make gains in the midterms, I believe Southerner will vanish in a puff of smoke. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1810
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 4:19 pm: |
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Southerner: I'm posting the below in its entirety because I think you need to read it.
March 15, 2006 | 10:30 p.m. ET
Losing patience with Bush
(Joe Scarborough, msnbc)
It wasn't hard to figure out when Richard Nixon was screwed.
My father, who was a faithful member Nixon's Silent Majority, supported the 36th President throughout Vietnam, Cambodia, Kent State and the Watergate hearings.
To George F. Scarborough, the Washington Post was the enemy, Walter Cronkite was a communist and John Dean was a spineless traitor.
Even as an 11 year old, I knew the gig was up when my dad opened up the paper one morning in August and whispered, "If he's done half of this stuff, he should be sent straight to jail."
The next day, Nixon resigned.
Thirty-two years later, the same guy who stood by Nixon to the very end turned away from the Duke-Boston College game to tell me that he was losing patience with another GOP leader.
"What's going on with Bush? I look at some of the things he's been doing and I just don't..."
Dad's voice trailed off.
This lifelong Republican who waited in line for hours in 1964 to cast his vote for Goldwater, and predicted the rise of Ronald Reagan in 1979, could not bring himself to verbalize what the President's critics have been saying for years now. That George Bush's war is a disaster and his administration is out of touch with the Silent Majority.
The record deficit. The port deal. Amnesty for illegal aliens. Bridges to nowhere. Skyrocketing gas prices. Iranian terrorists getting the Bomb.
It's all been enough to make hardcore Republicans like my dad start asking if there's any difference between the Republican Party they have always loved and the Democratic Party they have forever loathed.
A Republican President has to work hard to lose guys like my dad. But George Bush is close to losing George Scarborough.
Maybe that's why he's sitting at 38% in the polls and why his party's leaders are running for their lives.
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Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 838
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 5:26 pm: |
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Madden,
You are wrong. And I admire your spunk in the back tracking. Are you guys going to control Congress or make gains? I love how many of you libs are now hedging your bets. What's wrong? You suddenly realized you libs can't back up your words?
So, let me get this straight. If the Republicans control the Senate and House after the mid-terms yet lose a seat or two, you libs are going to claim victory. Is this your stance? If so, I say we both win. Only a true lib can create this type of victory structure.
All I care about is maintaining control which means we run the committees. I don't care if we are a majority by 1 seat or 20. As long as we set the agenda then you libs can have your "victory" celebrations. I love this. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1759
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:21 pm: |
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I have nothing more to say on this. I just wanted to bring it back to the top of the thread list for a moment or two.
The title of the thread is so timely. |
Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6981
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:24 pm: |
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boring |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1760
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:27 pm: |
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it was meant to be nothing, except bringing the thread back to the top of the list. Which you also have helped to do.
Thanks, sweetie pie. |
Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6982
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:32 pm: |
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you're welcome. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1762
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:36 pm: |
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Any time. Let's keep this thread on top of the list. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3375
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:50 pm: |
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Indeed. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 841
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:22 pm: |
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Once again, you libs put words ahead of action. Do you think this thread puts you back in power? When all you have is a message board then you don't have much. I say keep this thread on top all through this Republican's 2nd term! |
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 525
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:27 pm: |
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Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 842
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:44 pm: |
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That stand for "Two Termer"! |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1763
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:47 pm: |
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Southerner:
Can you, will you, could you, would you quit being such a dolt and a wet blanket? This is just for fun----and irony. I'm guessing you have learned what the word fun means, but I don't have the time to school you in the shadings of irony, and you sound as though there's a lot about that you haven't yet picked up on.
Stop farting higher than your arse, please. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 843
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 10:46 pm: |
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Inni,
I'm all about fun. Why do you think I read this board. This is the best comedic show I know of. Posters like yourself claim one thing and the country does the opposite. And then you spend years wringing your hands. You wanted Gore to win. So Bush is elected. You didn't want to invade Iraq. So we invaded Iraq. You wanted the Dems to take back the house in 2002. Republicans kept power. You wanted us to withdraw. We stayed. You wanted Kerry to win. Bush won again. You want terrorists calling the U.S. This admin wants to stop it. Etc, etc.
At every turn, you libs are out of step, yet somehow you truly believe this next election will finally be the one! Yes, this is funny and I enjoy it. From where I sit, we as a nation are doing just fine. Markets are up and unemployment is down. You are the ones who need to enjoy life instead of hand wringing. Eventually, you guys will learn to embrace and enjoy your minority status. I know the growing pains are tough, but by the end of the second decade you will probably settle down. |
SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1602
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 10:53 pm: |
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That's right, lower your standards and you'll never be disappointed. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 844
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:02 pm: |
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And that is why this board can not be taken seriously. Why can't we simply disagree on political issues? Instead, all you libs have is Bush is evil and the Republicans are criminals. Those are weak. If you say I lower my standards then fine. I'll lower them as far as I have to in order to keep the Democratic scum from getting back into power. You guys are just now getting around to feeling about us like we have felt about you for decades. A few more decades of minority status and then maybe, just maybe, you will understand why we fight so hard. Your philosophy is doomed no matter how bad Bush screws up. How long until Corzine feels the heat? Oh yeah, that began today. |
SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1603
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:11 pm: |
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Quote:Instead, all you libs have is Bush is evil and the Republicans are criminals. Those are weak. If you say I lower my standards then fine. I'll lower them as far as I have to in order to keep the Democratic scum from getting back into power.
Yet another uniter, not a divider. Truly inspirational.
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Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 861
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:42 pm: |
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Instead, all you libs have is Bush is evil and the Republicans are criminals. Those are weak.
Weaker than continuing to gloat over an election win that was barely squeaked out over a year ago? I don't think so. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1816
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:07 am: |
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"I don't care if we are a majority by 1 seat or 20."
Really, you can't see the difference, if that outcome were to happen? In a House that's increasingly put off by the president's power grab? With Republican senators and congressmen irritated with Bush and looking for ways to thwart his agenda, if for nothing else to make hay with their constituents. You can't see how how 20 possible votes would be better than one? You are confirming all my suspicions about you. From where you sit the country looks great? From where you sit you can barely see beyond you neighbor's mullet. And, please, stay right where you are.
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Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1765
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:19 am: |
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Southerner:
The only entities claiming that "Bush is evil," (your words) are misguided posters like yourself and the Neocon Radio Gang who mislead their ill-informed but faithful right wing listeners by telling them that Bush opponents claim that "Bush is evil."
It's a cute tactic and works with the uncluttered minds of people who want their entertainment and disinformation in simple forms.
But it is a lie. Just as your claiming so in your posting above is a lie.
People oppose this president and his administration because:
Bush is incompetent.
He cannot get the job done.
He has a record of appointing "mostly" cronies and friends who are as incompetent as he is (Alito and Roberts being significant exceptions to the rule, and he did not appoint them. He nominated them, and the Senate appointed them).
He offers excuses and platitudes rather than results.
If you were honest, and if you were in a position where you hired Bush to do a job, you would have fired him already.
Evil, my sister's cat's arse! That is a slick Republican myth to cement the shakey base.
But incompetent, underperforming, directionless, and unequal to the task? Man, that is the truth about this president and his administration that you hope to squelch. |
Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1686
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:24 am: |
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I love it when Innis starts stringing adjectives together. It lets him use the largest amount of words in the shortest period of time. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1817
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:31 am: |
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Well said, Innis. Bush is not evil. Just stupid.
Cheney on the other hand... |
Freshwater Films
Supporter
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6041
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:32 am: |
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I feel bad for southerner. His hatred is deep seated and, for reasons only his shrink knows, he feels compelled to share that with this board all the time. Witness..
Quote:I'll lower them as far as I have to in order to keep the Democratic scum from getting back into power
--very insightful
as is this gem
Quote:Your philosophy is doomed no matter how bad Bush screws up
now I have said this before and I will say it again. I am not miserable. I am disappointed. I am optimistic that this country can do and be better. So gloat all you want southerner, post your glee and hatred, but understand that simply by being a democrat I am not, as a result, somehow miserable. I am disappointed. BUT OPTIMISTIC none the less |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1766
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:51 am: |
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Guy:
You have impressed me. I wasn't sure you recognized adjectives.
Thanks for clearing that one up.
Next week, we'll cover adverbs. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1767
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:53 am: |
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And Guy:
Although you recognized adjectives, you did not object to a single one that I pinned on GWB.
That tells me something. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1819
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 1:05 pm: |
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More Republican disappointment in Bush:
In state's GOP heartland, questions
Many die-hard Republicans shaking their heads over Bush, war
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/03/20/MNG01HQVP01.DTL
Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer
Excerpt:
In nearby San Marcos, Herb Ranquist, 77, a retired Navy veteran perched on a stool in the local VFW hall, is equally perturbed, saying, "If we're going to war, we ought to do it right. If we let the generals and admirals do the job, we'd do OK.
"I voted for him two times, and I wish I hadn't,'' Ranquist said of the president. "It was probably one of the worst mistakes I ever made.''
Ranquist recalls how on May 1, 2003, Bush stood on an aircraft carrier off the coast near San Diego -- backed by a sign that said "Mission Accomplished'' -- and proclaimed that "major combat operations in Iraq are over.''
"I remember that,'' he said softly. "We all remember it.''
The Iraq war "did not protect us after 9/11. (Bush) was supposed to get bin Laden,'' said Marilyn Joy Shephard, 62, of Escondido, who has been a registered Republican since the Reagan era.
"But he wanted to go into Iraq, and I don't know why," she said. "I absolutely don't feel safer."
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Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 846
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 3:30 pm: |
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RL,
You can post as many articles as you like. It seems you are trying to convince yourself of something that you know won't happen. I feel like we are reliving 2004 and I love it. You libs are getting all giddy. I want each of you to get your hopes up. Very high please. I will once again be proven right when the country speaks in November. And yes, the Democratic leadership are all scum. They are a bunch of unprincipaled millionaires who prey on the poor of this nation. Their support of teacher unions have dumbed down the poorest students who need help the most. Luckily, the masses have woken up and threw these losers out of office. It's only a matter of time until more states turn red. It may take another generation but the so called pendulum is still swinging right no matter how many irate posts appear on this board. And thankfully, you libs are powerless to stop it. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1822
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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(I cut and pasted that last post and sent it around. I haven't laughed that hard all week...I also mentioned you were from the South...f'n priceless...)
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Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1790
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 3:34 pm: |
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I read the venom Southerner spews and only can say:
Consider the source. |
Free SLK!
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 443
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 3:34 pm: |
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He's actually right about one thing...The pandering to the teacher's unions is deplorable. Holy halting of progress Batman! |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1824
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 3:43 pm: |
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Southerner: People are responding to me about your post and they are dying to know where you are from. Is it some heavy duty KKK terrority in Mississippi, or some backwoods Alabama town, or outside some loser city like Atlanta or something? C'mon, man, we're dying to know... |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1826
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 4:16 pm: |
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Southerner: Someone I know who writes a fairly prominent blog wants to know if she can reproduce your 846 post. I'm not making any promises that she'll use it, and just fyi, she will probably be mocking you mercilessly, but do you give your permission? Or is this something I need to ask the moderators? It'd also help if you at least gave a state. Thanks.
(She said she'd fix the "unprincipaled" error if it's alright with you...she wants to mock the content, not the spelling.) |
ae35unit
Citizen
Username: Ae35unit
Post Number: 29
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 6:10 pm: |
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an important reiteration from Southerner:
http://www.careerbuilder.com/monk-e-mail/?mid=5580728 |
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 529
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 7:49 pm: |
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my outhouse is ALMOST an inhouse...
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tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4594
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 10:28 pm: |
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Quote:the masses have woken up
At last the teeming masses of America have risen up to overthrow the cruel tyranny of belonging to the middle class and have cast their lot with the uber-wealthy.
Workers of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your health insurance. And your pension. And your Social Security check. A college loan for your kids. Your job security. Your job.
Perhaps some crumbs from Kenny-boy will fall onto your table. The rising tide lifts all the yachts, but when it goes out again you might find something you can feed your family. |
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