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hch
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Username: Hch

Post Number: 222
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 8:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You may ask why care about Newark politics? Well, because Maplewood borders on Newark and the better Newark gets, the better Maplewood gets.

In my opinion, Sharpe James is one of the most corrupt politicians in New Jersey. Newark needs change desperately. No more fat handouts to developers, no more $50M slush funds at James' disposal, no more million dollar deals with arena developers while schools deteriorate and poverty continues.

Say yes to Booker. Send a donation, it may be the best money you ever spent as a citizen of Maplewood.
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers

Post Number: 6009
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 9:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After seeing the documentary Street Fight, you couldn't be more right regarding James' corruption
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Grrrrrrrrrrr
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Username: Oldsctls67

Post Number: 434
Registered: 11-2002


Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This shouldn't be news to anyone. James' corruption has been common knowledge for a long time. He kept on winning elections because he had the unions in his pocket. (The City of Newark is the largest single employer in Newark). I've already heard a couple of the unions come out in support of Booker.
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kendalbill
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Username: Kendalbill

Post Number: 164
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 6:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was really surprised by Street Fight. Given the choice before the film, I would definitely support Booker. And truth is, I would vote for him now. But I think the film showed why Sharpe James is popular and electable.

If the film showed me anything, it is the mechanics of the old machine politics. The machines all gave something back. Obviously public sector jobs is one of those give backs if you live in Newark. James is charming and persuasive and conveys a sense that he has it all under control-- through whatever means he wants. He was absolutely more entertaining than Booker, who comes across as somewhat pious and clueless.

Don't get me wrong, Booker would absolutely make a better mayor. James has created some real problems in his running of Newark and created some real pain for the people there.
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers

Post Number: 6016
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ITs Charisma versus competency.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5393
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's New Jersey politics.
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Parkbench87
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Username: Parkbench87

Post Number: 3818
Registered: 7-2001


Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"It's New Jersey politics."

Who would ever expect NJ politics to take place in NJ?
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dave23
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Username: Dave23

Post Number: 1530
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As everyone knows, corruption and dirty politics don't exist outside of NJ.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5394
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, but repeatedly reelecting a man who arguably has not lifted Newark as a whole out of what it is and who ran a race against another black candidate that was in part based upon race in this land of tolerance, not to mention the corruption people seem to think surrounds this man.....that's New Jersey. It's like they'd elect Torricelli again if they knew he could win despite his obvious shortcomings.

It's another example of why New Jersey politics is the national joke that it is.
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dave23
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Username: Dave23

Post Number: 1532
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sharpe James is to Newark what George Bush is to America.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5395
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's yet another example of why New Jersey politics is the national joke that it is.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro

Post Number: 2644
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, Sharpe James is to Newark what Al D'Amato was to his district.

Sleazy, but he always brought hom the bacon.
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dave23
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Username: Dave23

Post Number: 1533
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think D'Amato was better at distributing the bacon than James is.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5396
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The prosecution rests.
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dave23
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Username: Dave23

Post Number: 1535
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...under an umbrella of self-delusion.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5398
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm delusional and your state reelects corrupt politicians regularly.

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tom
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Username: Tom

Post Number: 4585
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think you'd be hard pressed to find many Maplewood or South Orange residents who support James.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5399
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SO-M citizens would support James over a republican, fearing that a republican Mayor of Newark might overturn Roe.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro

Post Number: 2646
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 1:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cjc, so you don't live in NJ?

"...your state reelects corrupt politicians regularly."
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dave23
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Username: Dave23

Post Number: 1536
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 2:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rastro,

He he lives in a state of denial.

cjc,

You're delusional in thinking that NJ is the exception, not the rule.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5402
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're delusional if you don't think NJ is exceptional.
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kendalbill
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Username: Kendalbill

Post Number: 165
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think there is a better analogy in Louisiana. Long Island and NJ are strictly JV compared to New Orleans.
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dave23
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Username: Dave23

Post Number: 1541
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Corporate Crime Reporter ranks NJ as the 16th most corrupt state.
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ina
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Username: Ina

Post Number: 326
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where is Streetfight playing?
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anon
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Username: Anon

Post Number: 2642
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 4:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SO-M citizens would support James over a republican, fearing that a republican Mayor of Newark might overturn Roe.

The Mayor of South Orange, Bill Calabrese, is a Republican. The Mayor of Maplewood, Fred Profeta, was a Republican

It's like they'd elect Torricelli again if they knew he could win despite his obvious shortcomings.

???????????????????????????????
If he got elected that would mean that he won. Do you mean that he would run again if he thought he could win?

The Governor of Connecticut went to jail. The Governor of Ohio pleaded guilty to a crime, but I think he got Probation rather than jail. The Governor of California...

The immediate past Governor of NJ was Dick Codey, a stand-up guy that we were all proud of.

The Legislature of the State of South Dakota may not be corrupt, just moronic.

I have little doubt that most States have their share of corruption.
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SO Ref
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Username: So_refugee

Post Number: 1625
Registered: 2-2005


Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is a scary proposition as mayors have been overturning Roe left and right these days...
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5446
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

anon -- the only reason Torricelli was pulled wasn't because he was corrupt in my opinion. It was because he would lose.

And you're right, most states have their fair share of corruption. New Jersey just has an exceptional amount of it aided and abetted by the voters here.
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Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen

Post Number: 1848
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 6:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just for "hall of shame" comparisons and to "keep it real":

Check out Arizona since before Ev Meacham,
Nevada any hour of the day or night,
Washington State's cozy little health care coterie, and
most of all what goes on in both the governor's mansion and the so-called legislatures in both Texas and Louisiana.

Those last two states make New Jersey's corruption look like a piker's antics by comparison.
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Lydia
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Username: Lydial

Post Number: 1735
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 6:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seeing Sharpe James in action is breathtaking - the man knows how to command a room. He's always in action, slapping hands, throwing out psuedo-personal compliments "Looking good, you been working out? How's the kids?, Hey! God bless!" He makes it sound like he's talking personally to everyone who shakes his hand. Never bad news, the only bad news are the grumps who want to stem the tide of Sharpe James' huckster brand of benevolence.

Sharpe James is like the lottery - he promises (and rarely delivers) riches beyond your wildest dreams, but he pays off just enough so the suckers keep lining up.

I sent my check to Cory, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed - I really hope that anyone who can spare even $10 does the same.
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Foj
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Username: Foger

Post Number: 1040
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 9:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Innis, May I throw Ohio into that mix?

SOS Blackwell
AG Petro
Gov whats his name, Taft.

Tom Noe & wife.
3 indicted election workers.

Jean Schmidt representing the heart of Ohios KKK.

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