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Stevef
Citizen
Username: Stevef
Post Number: 191
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 9:21 am: | 
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/23/iraq.hostages/index.html |
Guy
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Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1696
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 9:40 am: |
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The organization sees it as bad news for CPT that they were rescued so their press release says they were released.
CPTers FREED
23 March 2006
Our hearts are filled with joy today as we heard that Harmeet Singh Sooden, Jim Loney and Norman Kember have been safely released in Baghdad. Christian Peacemaker Teams rejoices with their families and friends at the expectation of their return to their loved ones and community. Together we have endured uncertainty, hope, fear, grief and now joy during the four months since they were abducted in Baghdad....[MORE]
http://www.cpt.org/
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Brokeback Straw
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6988
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 9:43 am: |
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This is actually bad news for libs since these were Christian peace activists.. As we all know libs hate Christians. |
Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1698
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:05 am: |
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Hillary loves Jesus when it comes to immigration. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4599
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:05 am: |
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Jesus was a liberal. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5419
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:24 am: |
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Now that's Hillary-ous. Jesus was an illegal immigrant. Just like his parents were homeless. |
dave23
Citizen
Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1552
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:27 am: |
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Jesus was an apostate. |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6056
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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hmmm some liberal Christians for ya Staw (Of various denominations)
Kennedy's
Kerry
Clinton
Blanche Lincoln
Mark Pryor
Ken Salazar
Christopher Dodd
Thomas Carper
Joe Biden
Bill Nelson
Dan Akaka
Dan Inouye
Tom Harkin
Richard Durbin
Barak Obama
Evan Bayh
Mary Landrieu
Barbara Mikulski
Paul Sarbanes
Debbie Stabenow
Mark Dayton
Max Baucus
Byron Dorgan
Kent Conrad
Ben Nelson
Jon Corzine
Jeff Bingaman
Harry Reid
Jack Reed
Tim Johnson
Patric Leahy
Maria Cantwell
Patty Murray
Roberty Byrd
John Rockerfeller
and the Independent from VT, James Jeffords.
Yup them libs hate Christians...
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Spqr
Citizen
Username: Spqr
Post Number: 73
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:46 am: |
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"Hillary loves Jesus when it comes to immigration."
And so does the catholic church - approximately one billion christians:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/22/opinion/22mahony.html?ex=1143262800&en=404683e 9328abb32&ei=5070} |
Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1701
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 11:57 am: |
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One bishop is not the Catholic Church. |
Spqr
Citizen
Username: Spqr
Post Number: 74
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:06 pm: |
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You're correct, one bishop is not the whole Catholic Church, but his statements reflect what the official position of the Catholic Church is (at least to my understanding as a Catholic through the teachings imparted to me by my Church as a whole for the past 38 years of my life).
Quote from the op ed piece: "Part of the mission of the Roman Catholic Church is to help people in need. It is our Gospel mandate, in which Christ instructs us to clothe the naked, feed the poor and welcome the stranger. Indeed, the Catholic Church, through Catholic Charities agencies around the country, is one of the largest nonprofit providers of social services in the nation, serving both citizens and immigrants." |
Brokeback Straw
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 6989
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:09 pm: |
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CJC,
Let's not forget that Gandhi worked at a gas station near St. Louis...
libs.. |
Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1702
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:14 pm: |
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Spqr , I have been a Catholic my whole life also. The official position of the Church is not to break the law of the United States. |
Spqr
Citizen
Username: Spqr
Post Number: 75
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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For further random reading on the Catholic Church position:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=1743009&page=1
http://www.vdare.com/fulford/catholic_bishops.htm
http://www.catholicleague.org/research/media_war.htm 8th paragraph down
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V114/N57/bishops.57w.html
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/blueprints/jordan.html |
Spqr
Citizen
Username: Spqr
Post Number: 76
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:24 pm: |
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Guy, I didn't say they did. Read the articles above and you'll see they don't say that either. But it appears they do oppose tough anti-immigration legislation. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4605
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:34 pm: |
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Quote:It is our Gospel mandate, in which Christ instructs us to clothe the naked, feed the poor and welcome the stranger.
As opposed to cutting off welfare and strangling social programs, moving into a gated community with a private security force. Jesus was a liberal.
Just like on capital punishment. Conservatives? "Fry 'em". Liberals? No capital punishment, period. Jesus? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Jesus was a liberal.
Or taxes. Conservatives? "Taxation is theft." Jesus? "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." Again, Jesus in the liberal column.
The pharisees, on the other hand ... |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 973
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:43 pm: |
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Guy - I am just glad that there is no law that says Catholics are not allowed to have as biting and sharp a sense of humor as yours is. |
Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1703
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:54 pm: |
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Thanks Hoops, I have enough trouble with no meat on Fridays. |
bettyd
Citizen
Username: Badjtdso
Post Number: 166
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 2:07 pm: |
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Don't forget, libs hate America and the troops too. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5423
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 2:34 pm: |
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tom -- the correct phrase is "Taxes are LEGALIZED theft." And as Jesus told us to render unto Caesar...no foul there.
Libs are for killing innocents, and you know of which I speak.
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6062
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 2:37 pm: |
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cjc...so apparently are Repubs...or are you convinced that EVERY SINGLE PERSON put to death in Texas under Gov. Bush was, without a shadow of a doubt, guilty. Despite new evidence or the decision of a jury (compised of people capable of making errors). |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5227
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 9:02 am: |
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I see on the Wall Street Journal online opinion section, that the official Republican line is to make fun of the Christian peace activists for being, well, Christian. |
Guy
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Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1707
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 9:21 am: |
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If anybody is interested in what Taranto actually said.
"It's not clear whom the CPT statement means by "our enemies." But the only enemy they seem to recognize is the U.S. and its allies, whose "occupation" of Iraq is the "root cause" of the ex-hostages' captivity, and whose detention of "thousands of Iraqis" they liken to their own kidnapping and (in one case) murder by terrorists.
But if the CPT is going to "love our enemies," the least it could do is thank them. The statement does not acknowledge that the hostages were rescued by U.S. and British servicemen, or indeed that they were rescued at all; it refers mysteriously to their having been "released," as if the kidnappers themselves had decided to let them go.
This seems to run deeper than a case of simple ingratitude. There is a whole strange worldview at work here--a theology, if you will. We don't claim to understand it fully, but it seems to equate America as the root of all evil and America's adversaries as Edenic creatures--innocents who know not good or evil and thus bear no culpability for their bad actions.
If we have this right, it follows that the CPT Christians see themselves, by virtue of their faith, as being forgiven for being American, or for being from another nation that America has corrupted. This is why they cannot be grateful to, or forgiving of, America: For them that would amount to thanking or forgiving sin itself."
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5228
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 9:31 am: |
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Yes, exactly. He misinterpreted what they said, and mocked them for writing things like: "Today, in the face of this joyful news, our faith compels us to love our enemies even when they have committed acts which caused great hardship to our friends and sorrow to their families" |
Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 1708
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 9:40 am: |
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He mocked them for being delusional ingrates by blaming America for the violence in Iraq and giving the terrorists a pass.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5231
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 9:48 am: |
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Well, you can read it your way. That column is an example of that type of "conservative" thinking that only likes the "right" kind of Christians - those who don't pay attention to all that "love your enemy" stuff. |
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