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fmertz
Citizen
Username: Fmertz
Post Number: 107
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 9:09 pm: | 
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If there were only liberals in America,
How would law enforcement work? And who would enforce our laws?
Who would work in our factories, and who would manage the workers?
Who would protect our country and serve in our military?
Who would there be left to blame?
If there were only liberals in America, it wouldn’t be America at all, because the country wouldn’t survive, it’d be long gone.
Simply take a closer look at our school system. Liberals have been running amok there for over a generation and have been driving that into the ground for years.
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Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1037
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 9:15 pm: |
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Quit ya whining. DO some work. Ya let the libs run amok for a generation, see. |
GOP on you
Citizen
Username: Headsup
Post Number: 310
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 9:15 pm: |
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Such brilliance! I can only wish I said it so succinctly.
Bravo!
I know exactly what the libs will do next - accuse you of bashing straw men. Well don't listen to them Mr. Mertz, it's people like you and me that are keeping this country strong in the face of the liberal menace.
GOD BLESS AMERICA, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND GEORGE W. BUSH!
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Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1039
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 9:32 pm: |
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Throw the libs in jail, throw the menace in jail, save the country.
And its your fault that the libs screwed up the school system, and you let them do it for a generation. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4626
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 10:37 pm: |
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I think he's been reading too many comic books. |
Eats Shoots & Leaves
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 3164
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 10:43 pm: |
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Hmmm, and if there were only conservatives in America--but, then again, which conservatives? The ones who believe in less government, or the ones who keep putting the government into our bedrooms and want to get between a woman and her doctor? The ones who believe in fiscal responsibility, or the ones who cut taxes at the same time they run up the deficit to pornographic heights? The ones who believe in a less is more foreign policy, or the ones who want to invade every country that does not agree with us (or which disses our daddies)? We have been letting the so-called conservatives run the country for the last few years, and we have unfunded school mandates, a quagmire of a guerilla war in Iraq, Iran and North Korea going nuclear, a burgeoning deficit, China in the fiscal drivers' seat--if I were you, I would stop blaming everything on liberals and start looking in the mirror. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1805
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 11:59 pm: |
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Simply take a closer look at our school system. Liberals have been running amok there for over a generation and have been driving that into the ground for years.
while i do not want liberals or conservatives running our country, there is no refuting the truth of this statement.
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themp
Supporter
Username: Themp
Post Number: 2718
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 11:47 am: |
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If there were only liberals in America,
How would law enforcement work? And who would enforce our laws?
Gay cops.
Who would work in our factories, and who would manage the workers?
robots.
Who would protect our country and serve in our military?
Dick Cheney, Pat Buchanan, Jonah Goldberg, Newt Gingrich, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Gary Bauer, John Bolton, drew "Andy" Card, William "Bill" Bennett, Don Evans, rank Gaffney, Asa Hutchinson, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Rush Limbaugh, William "Bill" O'Reilly, Michael Savage - they would be drafted.
Who would there be left to blame?
SUVs.
If there were only liberals in America, it wouldn’t be America at all, because the country wouldn’t survive, it’d be long gone.
It would be called "Lower Canada".
Simply take a closer look at our school system. Liberals have been running amok there for over a generation and have been driving that into the ground for years.
We will abolish it completely. |
Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 1921
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 8:09 pm: |
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There was a recent op-ed piece in the Financial Times suggesting that people who owned automatic weapons - or insisted on their right to own them - be drafted immediately and sent to Iraq. It would save on basic training and we'd be rid of them in more ways than one. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 869
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:19 pm: |
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Then why don't you libs pass a law on this issue? That's right, you can't. All talk and no action. |
johnny
Citizen
Username: Johnny
Post Number: 1603
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:50 pm: |
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If there were only liberals, they wouldn't be liberal. They would be mainstream. |
Twokitties
Citizen
Username: Twokitties
Post Number: 408
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 8:44 am: |
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Actually, if liberals ran the country our divorce rate would drop, our economy would be more robust and we would have fewer teen pregnancies. Weird eh?
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We've been hearing so much lately about the red state/blue state thing, how the blue states are full of immoral, gay-loving, baby-killing liberal pagans (and all vote Democratic) and the red states contain mostly morally upstanding, family values loving, God-ordained conservative Christians (who naturally vote Republican). But a quick look at some statistics on a wide variety of things shows that these labels have much more to do with rhetoric than reality.
Conservative Christians are forever telling us that their religion is the key to a cohesive and peaceful society, and that all hell began to break loose in American culture when we "took God out of the schools" (itself a myth). So at the very least one would think that the "thou shalt not kill" commandment would be more likely to be followed in those God-worshipping red states, right? Wrong. In fact, FBI statistics show that southern states have the highest murder rates, despite the fact that our largest cities are in blue states (New York, LA, Chicago). The top 5 highest murder rates per 100,000 in America? Louisiana (17.5), Mississippi (11.1), Alabama (10.4), Tennessee (9.5) and South Carolina (9.0). So much for that notion that small town, rural American is the Real America, not those big city hedonists who flaunt decency.
Certainly we should find that the red states, with their fervent belief in the importance of "family values", would have families that stay together far more than those God-hating pagans in the big city blue states, right? Well, let's check the state-by-state divorce statistics. And once again, the opposite of what we expect. The lowest rate of divorce in the nation? That would be none other than that haven of liberal political correctness, and beacon of gay marriage to the world, Massachusetts. Must just be an anomoly, right? Well, not exactly. In fact, 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are in blue states, especially in the Northeast, allegedly the hotbed of pagan immorality. And the 10 highest divorce rates in the nation, with averages nearly 3 times higher than the 10 lowest? 8 of them are red states. And let's not forget that these are led primarily by what is referred to as the Bible Belt. As a recent National Center for Policy Analysis noted, "Nearly half of all marriages break up, but the divorce rates in these southern states are roughly 50 percent above the national average." Boy, I'm sure glad we've got these people to lecture us on family values, but one wonders how they get the time in between breaking up their own families!
Okay, so far this is looking bad for those red states, but it can't be all bad. Surely those Real Americans in the red states are more self-reliant and hardy than us effete blue staters. With all the talk from red staters about smaller government and keeping those liberal pork project spenders in the Democratic party out of their pocketbook, it's those effete blue staters who feed at the public trough and take our well-earned tax dollars from the big spenders in Washington, right? Er...well, no. According to a study by the Tax Foundation, of all the states that receive more federal money than they pay in Federal taxes, 76% of them (25 of 32) are those self-reliant, small government red states. And of the 10 states that pay the most in Federal taxes and get the least in return, 7 are blue states.
Okay, this isn't looking good, is it? How about rates of teen pregnancy. I'm sure those family values folks who don't believe in all that fancy sex education stuff do much better than us immoral blue state liberals who let our child run wild. Well, not quite. 6 of the 10 states with the lowest rates of teen pregnancy are blue states; 7 of the 10 states with the highest rates were red states. Texas, by the way, is one of only 5 states with a rate above 100 per 100,000 in population (3 of which are red states), and their school board just approved a set of sex education textbooks that do not even mention contraception. Yeah, that oughta help. Teen pregnancy, by the way, went down every single year after 1991, while those immoral liberals were in charge in Washington, with a national average of a 26% decline. But of the 10 states that showed the smallest decline? You guessed it, they were red states, with Texas leading the way.
The point of all this, I think, is that it's easy to talk about "family values" and being moral, upstanding people; it's quite another to actually live it. And as a group, the people yelling the loudest and pointing their fingers at others, are the ones who live it the least. And at the same time, ironically, they also want to claim victim status for how unfairly others look down on them. Sorry, red staters, but you have zero credibility on this one. You're the ones who are unfairly impugning the moral values of people who, in reality, tend to behave a lot better than you do. You're the ones who continually point out the splinter in someone else's eye while ignoring the log in your own. You're the ones who love spouting holier-than-thou rhetoric while living less holier-than-thou lives. So neither your pretensions of moral righteousness, nor your cries of unfair victimization, ring true.
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Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 986
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 9:10 am: |
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Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1480
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 12:06 pm: |
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Just goes to show that the Republican party is the party of the immoral. I suspected it all along. Thanks for the further evidence Twokitties. |
Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 1923
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 2:55 pm: |
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Not to mention the illegal and the fattening. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13265
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 3:13 pm: |
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johnny writes: If there were only liberals, they wouldn't be liberal. They would be mainstream.
Yeah, it's like saying if there were only dark skinned people. We could kill half the population based on the fact that they are lighter than the median person, and then what would you have? People of various skin tones. Some would still be the lightest. The definitions of "light" and "dark" would change, but we would still have a range.
I think we need both liberals and conservatives. Liberals should be liberal with changes that society need. Conservatives should remind us of what has always been and will always be important.
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Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1070
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 2:12 am: |
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Acording to Southerner, they wouldnt win elections. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 871
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 9:04 am: |
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If all that existed were liberals then I guarantee they would win elections.
Is this what it has come down to now for you guys? Dreaming of a liberal utopia rather than working to espouse your view? I am currently upset with the Repubs for not being aggressive in their message and taking the fight to the libs. I am also upset from a political view with the Dems who haven't offerred a thing except bash Bush.
I can't believe many of you are feeding into this. Congress is there for the taking and yet your Democratic Leadership can't come up with a coherent message. If this ineptituded on a political level continues on both sides then Congress stays Republican. As a big fan of the political scene, this election cycle is shaping up to be one of the most boring cycles in recent memory. Both sides are afraid to actually say what they believe. As long as the Repubs maintain Congress I'll be happy, but I want to see some fireworks to get the blood pumping. At least McKinney is trying to stir something up in a lackluster month. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13362
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 9:07 am: |
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Southerner, go read fmertz's post. No liberal here is wishing for a country full of only liberals. So you just knocked down a strawman that no one even erected. The question didn't even make sense.
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Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1071
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 12:46 pm: |
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Did ya miss the DEM National security paper? |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5476
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 3:26 pm: |
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I saw it. It was hilarious. |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2647
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 5:04 pm: |
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Congress is there for the taking
If you mean it's for the taking by corrupt lobbyists that is probably true.
If you mean that the Dems can win a majority, that may be arithmeticaly impossible.
Only about 5% of House Districts are competitive. The Dems would have to win by a landslide to gain a majority in the House. Even if they do manage it their majority is likely to be very thin. If the GOP retains a majority it will likely be smaller than their current majority. It is a good bet that the next House of Reps will be almost equally divided between the Parties. That will result in either continued partisanship and paralysis or a new spirit of cooperation across the aisle. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1073
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 5:33 pm: |
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Dems need 15 seats to get the House back. What are you talking about?
That aint no landslide, pal.
Midterm swings of 20, 30, or even 40 seats are not unheard off.
20 (IIRC)seats are vacant, and 23 are competitive.
3 right here in NJ, the 5th, 7th, & 11th CDs. |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 2649
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 6:20 pm: |
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Foj:
If only 23 are competitive then a gain of 15 is a big deal. Are all those 23 currently held by Republicans?
Tell me more about the 5th, 7th and 11th. |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2650
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 6:27 pm: |
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OK, I did some research:
District 5 - Scott Garrett
District 7 - Mike Fergusen
District 11- Rodney Frelinghuysen
FOJ: Are all three vulnerable. Frelinghuysen has been a round for a while (and his family has been in politics for 200 years). Is he retiring? |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 872
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 10:03 pm: |
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anon,
I agree with your assessment that there is no way the Dems take over Congress. I'm really just trying to pump the Dems up so they have that deep gut sick feeling they had after the last election. However, many Dems are already backpedaling. Now, it isn't about "controlling" Congress, but gaining seats. I even heard Franken say it this evening. Only a lib can once again come out of an election in the minority, yet claim victory. Read this board the day after the election and you will see many libs claiming victory while the Congress is still in control of us neocons. And I will be laughing all the way. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1885
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 10:58 pm: |
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Southerner:
I'm still waiting for your response to my offer in another thread to pay for 3 credits of a European History course at the accredited college or university of your choice, on condition that you at least pass the course and prove it.
The offer is firm and it stands. No answer from you, however.
Let me know. The money is yours, per the conditions stated.
I'd take the offer if I were you. You need it. |
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