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themp
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Post Number: 2733
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 1:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This takes the cake.

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/003008.html
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Darryl Strawberry
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 1:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

boring
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bettyd
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Post Number: 175
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't see any dead bodies or kidnappings in progress. That can't be Baghdad.
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Hoops
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cmon Straw. While I agree that in general a picture of downtown sometown in Turkey is boring, the context of the picture makes it hilarious.

Is there really ANY honest reason that someone would try to pull that off?

It is really just one more example of the majority party lying to the public.
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themp
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Post Number: 2736
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 1:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and badly.

When he writes "boring", read "ouch, something else I'm not allowed to think about."
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tom
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Post Number: 4648
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's basically it, isn't it? But in a way, it HAS become boring already. If the Republican positions are so rock-solid, why do they always have to fake the evidence?
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themp
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

More:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000217.php
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tom
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Post Number: 4650
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone have a source for the original photo? He's taken it off his web site and all the referencing sites I've found were linking to that URL.

I hope somebody right-clicked and saved it before it went down!
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Joe
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Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's strange. The link to the picture on Kaloogian's site doesn't work.
Must be one of those technical glitches.
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gj1
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Post Number: 320
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 4:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah...that's it...a technical glitch.

Here's the photo of "dowtown Baghdad" from Kaloogian's site:


Here's a photo of a strangely similar street scene in the Istanbul suburb of Bakirkoy:
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gj1
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Post Number: 321
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 4:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe he was confused by that whole Istanbul/Constantinople thing?
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Robert Livingston
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Post Number: 1835
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 4:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Republicans are so stupid.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Post Number: 2019
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 6:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can attest to the fact that Baghdad is much safer than the Bush-bashing liberal media would lead you to believe. I visited about three months ago and took this photo of downtown Baghdad. It is as peaceful a place as you could imagine:
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Innisowen
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 7:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is that the Salvation Army down there trying to convert those Muslims to Christianity by force of tubas?

By golly, Baghdad looks so "paisible" as the French say that it could be a small alpine village in France. Espresso and a croissant (there's a real pun there for the linguist!), anyone?
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Post Number: 2020
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what could be better than sipping an espresso in the fertile croissant?
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Innisowen
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Post Number: 1873
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Dr, yes, indeed. You got it.
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tom
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Post Number: 4654
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.kaloogianforcongress.com/aboutus.asp?id06=116&par06=104#

An updated photo of downtown Baghdad is on his Web site. Kaloogian's selected photo of the vibrant street scene couldn't be more illustrative. Unfortunately, what it's illustrative of is his further idiocy and contempt for the voting public.
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dave23
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The new photo is hilarious. It's obviously taken while he's safely ensonced in his hotel room.
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gj1
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Come on dave, as is evident from the photo below, all is well in Baghdad:

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tom
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Post Number: 4656
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Someone's done a helpful analysis of the latest photo. Turns out it was taken from a hotel balcony in the green zone!
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tom
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Post Number: 4657
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TPM nails it down pretty well

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I'm actually shocked that this is the best this guy could do. Look, Baghdad is a vast city. There are people falling in love there. Children being born. The quiet desperation of existence. No one is saying or believes that there's black smoke or an ambulance in every street scene. Certainly you can find some parts of the city where you can take photos and things look relatively normal.

What this joke of a picture -- given what it's supposed to demonstrate -- tells me is that Kaloogian's bogus fact-finding mission probably didn't get outside the heavily fortified safe zones guarded by the US military. And that's not surprising since even a lot reporters don't venture beyond those areas much any more.



viz an earlier thread in which Laura Ingraham's trip is mentioned.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Post Number: 2021
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the question that comes to mind is, how bad must things really be over there when even the GOP tools have to completely make up to try and prove their point?
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Jim McLaughlin
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Post Number: 48
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The following is now posted on his website. Check out the spelling errors.



We Appologize for the inconvience, but we are currently experiencing Extremly High bandwidth on this server, preventing the site to function at its full potental. Be assured we are working as fast as possible to get the site running at full force. You may however still view our contributions.
Thank you for your patience in this matter.
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Hoops
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Post Number: 1017
Registered: 10-2004


Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I received the following in my email -

Subject: Republicans today

Things you have to believe to be a Republican today.....
Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when
Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with
him, and a bad  guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade  with
China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest
national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
without regulation.

The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have  sex.
A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies,  then
demand their cooperation and money
Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health
care to all Americans is socialism. HMOs and insurance companies  have the
best interests of the public at heart

Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but
creationism should be taught in schools.
A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable  offense,
but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is
solid defense policy.
Government should limit itself to the powers named in the  Constitution,
which include banning gay marriages and censoring the  Internet.

The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George
Bush's driving record is none of our business

Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for
your recovery.
You support states' rights, but the Attorney General can tell states what
local voter initiatives they have the right to adopt.

What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest,  but
what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant
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tom
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Post Number: 4659
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This just keeps getting funnier all the time. Kos is reporting that, according to the metadata in the new photo posted on the site, the picture supposedly taken during the trip he "just got back from" was actually shot in July 2005! One of the blue government buildings shown in the middleground was blown up in December.

If I wanted to prove that Maplewood village was busy on a Saturday morning I wouldn't find it necessary to post a picture of suburban Toronto; nor would I find (after a trip in which I supposedly took hundreds of photos) that all I could get my hands on was a 9-month old aerial photo taken from a mile away. So I'm going to ask this question again (even though all the cons seem to be avoiding this thread like a flock of wheezing poultry): if the case for Iraq's progress is so solid, why can't real evidence be used to support it?
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tom
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Post Number: 4718
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just had a nice visit with an old Turkish friend, and I showed her this picture and told the story behind it.

Unsurprisingly, she immediately said, "that's not Baghdad, it's Istanbul," (that's where she's from) but also gave a little bit of interesting commentary. She said the picture is probably about eight years old, based on the "edo" sign in the left foreground, which is for a brand that hasn't existed for about that long.
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Foj
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Post Number: 1144
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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tom
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Post Number: 4723
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unofficial results. Updated at 01:30:04 on 04-12-06.

US REP. 50TH DIST.
Counted: 445 of 445 precincts – 100.0 percent
FRANCINE BUSBY - DEM 56147 43.92%
BRIAN P. BILBRAY - REP 19366 15.15%
ERIC ROACH - REP 18486 14.46%
HOWARD KALOOGIAN - REP 9525 7.45%
BILL MORROW - REP 6886 5.39%
ALAN UKE - REP 5120 4.00%
RICHARD EARNEST - REP 2751 2.15%
BILL HAUF - REP 2036 1.59%
SCOTT TURNER - REP 1831 1.43%
CHRIS YOUNG - DEM 1690 1.32%
WILLIAM GRIFFITH - IND 1042 0.82%
VICTOR E. RAMIREZ - REP 843 0.66%
PAUL KING - LIB 772 0.60%
JEFF NEWSOME - REP 547 0.43%
SCOTT ORREN - REP 313 0.24%
DELECIA HOLT - REP 243 0.19%
BILL BOYER - REP 190 0.15%
MILTON GALE - REP 53 0.04%

from http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/results/index.html

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