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Foj
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Post Number: 1081
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dick Cheny, after drinking alcohol, shoots a man in the face and jokes about it. Nothing happens.

A congresswoman who happens to be black pushes a capitol hill officer and a warrant is sworn out for her arrest.

Two laws? One the Administration sets for itself and the set the rest of us must abide by.

I copied this post from DU, it was too good.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364 x833525


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Darryl Strawberry
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Post Number: 7030
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 7:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The woman is a clown..She's facing two charges including assault on a police officer. Of course, she wants you to think it's racial. It's not and libs are morons. (Just thought I'd throw that last line in)
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Duncan
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Post Number: 6139
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 7:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lets see. I see two laws in the Dick thing.

Firing a weapon after consuming alcohol (though come to think of it if that were a law in Texas there would be a whole lot more peace and quiet)

and discharging a weapon in a manner inconsistant with the Rove Ethic.
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Darryl Strawberry
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 7:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

boring
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Phenixrising
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Post Number: 1507
Registered: 9-2004


Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 8:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Duncan add to that…

3. Cheney didn't have a valid license.
4. Took over 24 hours to report the incident (enough time to sober-up).
5. Did NOT communicate to his staff and to the CLOWN running the White House, that he SHOT a senior citizen.


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dougw
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Post Number: 790
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 9:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It does not matter that the victum did not press charges Cheny should be locked up.

Also members of congress should be able to enter any federal building they want without passing a metal detector. They should not have to wear identifying pins. Federal security personnel should memorize each of the 535 members faces. Security personnel should never speak directly to members of congress.
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joel dranove
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Post Number: 291
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adnmembers of Congress should not respect Congressional security personnel requests, and should be able to strike them at will.
Was it only two years ago that a seemingly peaceful visitor to Congress pulled out a handgun and shot to death at least one guard?
jd
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bottomline
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Post Number: 406
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the members of Congress should be locked in until they get some useful work done.
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SLK Lives!
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Post Number: 1130
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Straw-

You are so right on this one. McKinney breaks the law and all our town liberals can do is bitch about Cheney. So are they agreeing that it is a racial issue?

What am I saying, of course they are! The earth would fall out of orbit if even one liberal failed to refer to some phenomena as an -IST (racist, sexist)on a daily basis(oh, wait, that is global warming). I guess it helps them sleep better at night

Let me keep this simple. If Cheney broke the law then he should be held accountable. If McKinney broke the law so should she. I have come the conclusion that liberals are so to toe with their party lines that they assume everyone must be. Surprise, surprise....

Is everyone really that surprised wacko McKinney pulled out the race card? Isn't this the same chick that blamed her last election defeat on the J-E-W-S (along with her father)? What happened this time around, the J-E-W-S had a change of heart and voted her back in?

Where is the outrage about that? Leave it to liberals to pick and choose their "moral outrages".

And here I thought all along the liberal community have been frying their brains on the Moveon.org website or the NYT Op-Ed pages. The DU, FOJ? Give me a break....how much more partisan can you get....

Straw-I ran into Paul Surovell(sp) outside Kings last Saturday afternoon at his anti-war gig and he told me I missed meeting you by two minutes...aww shucks...
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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Post Number: 3243
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is one "liberal"(as Straw would probably define me), who thinks that McKinney can NOT with immunity go about striking anyone and needs to answer for her actions. (That also goes for Dick Cheney and Naomi Campbell!!)
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SLK Lives!
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1132
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/040406/news4.html

straight from the donkey's mouth...literally....
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Hoops
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Post Number: 1042
Registered: 10-2004


Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Much ado about what is probably a misunderstanding blown out of proportion.

She can have her day in court. This is non-news.
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dougw
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Post Number: 791
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Hoops - usually when I hit a cop it is usually a misunderstanding. I find the Maplwood police don't blow it out of proportion, they just take the slap, cry a little and move on, but the NYPD are not as understanding.

I mean sometimes the cops near me need to be punched. Don't they understand that?
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dave23
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Post Number: 1614
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 2:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dougw,

She punched him?
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dougw
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Post Number: 793
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 2:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She has not denied that she struck him. Maybe it was a backhanded bit** slap. Maybe she poked him in the eyes like Moe used to do to Curley.

But it was a misunderstanding.
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dave23
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Post Number: 1615
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 2:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like she slapped his arm away. When you said "punch", I envisioned a knuckle sandwich to the nose.
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dougw
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Post Number: 796
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always slap the cops arms away when they try to stop me after telling me to stop three times. Often I try to walk into Federal buildings with a bag and see if they can stop me. I can't believe the cops try to stop me, I mean I pay for thoes builings with my taxes.

So I walk towards the building and slap their arms away.

It is just a misunderstanding.
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dave23
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Post Number: 1616
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 2:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And I always exaggerate my description of events I did not witness.
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dougw
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Post Number: 797
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 2:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are misunderstanding me too! You are just like a cop.

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dave23
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Post Number: 1618
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 2:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, so you were there?
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SLK Lives!
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1137
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dave23-

One thing for sure, by McKinney making such a spectacle of this AFTER the Capitol Police threw around the idea of an arrest warrant makes me suspicious of her motives.

-SLK
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dave23
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Post Number: 1620
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 3:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She's just trying to get attention. Nothing new.
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Hoops
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Post Number: 1051
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think dougw is hilarious and I dont care about McKinney's motives. There is no right side in this argument. She probably overreacted and felt she was insulted because she was not recognized for her position (hey power corrupts even democrats) and the cop likewise escalated what should have been a non-issue into some kind of assault charge to save face.

You know that is what most likely happened.

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SLK Lives!
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Post Number: 1138
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 3:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree...how in the world she ever got back into office I have no idea. Yet again, you have Marion Barry....

You should hear my brother-in-law talk about her....he lives in GA....I never heard so many expletives in one sentence before.... :-)

Where is Zell when you need him?

-SLK
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dave23
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Post Number: 1621
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 3:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think Zell's head exploded.
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Rastro
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Post Number: 2771
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe someone took him up on his challenge of a duel...
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Innisowen
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Post Number: 1891
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 9:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

McKinney may have acted stupidly (one doesn't run off when the cops tell you to stop, even if you're in Congress) but unlike the former Republican majority leader of the House, she is still in the House.

It is, however, becoming increasingly obvious that members of Congress and of the Senate regard obeying the law as something left to the rest of us, as Tom Delay's subordinates seem to be proving ad nauseam.
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Foj
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Post Number: 1083
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Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was waiting for the CP to release the video of the "incident". Apparently the officer involved has not commented, the comments & quotes come from an "un-named" officer who witnessed the event. NOT releasing the video allows Wolf Blitzer & others to make their hair-do comments. Since certain media outlets are frying CM alive, it makes me think its a sham. The video could be released which would put an end to the issue.

I have read that Members of congress dont get arrested or jailed during sesssion for petty stuff.

Was it a poke, a slap, a punch, a strike with cell phone in hand?
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tom
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Posted on Thursday, April 6, 2006 - 1:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe a more pertinent comparison is between McKinney and DeLay. The Rude Pundit has this irrefutable though mildly obscene observance

Quote:

It was the contrast between the mainstream media's treatment of McKinney and of the fallen Tom DeLay. This morning, the Rude Pundit was watching that hilarious parody of a news program on Fox called Fox and Friends...the Rude Pundit was struck by the way that Kilmeade aggressively interviewed McKinney, a guest on the show, and who, like every politician out there, stuck to her idiotic talking points instead of answering the questions. Kilmeade dogged McKinney, asking her repeatedly if McKinney had struck the cop. And that made the Rude Pundit wonder: did anyone ever on one of the "news" networks go after Tom DeLay and ask him over and over, directly, if he had laundered money in Texas, even during his farewell interviews last night?

For example: Here's CNN's Wolf "My Manly White Stubble Can Sand Wood" Blitzer with McKinney on Monday: "Congresswoman McKinney, did you strike one of those Capitol Police officers during this incident on Capitol Hill?" McKinney, of course, did not answer.

Now, here's Blitzer with Tom DeLay last night: "How worried are you that these former aides of yours might say something or provide some sort of evidence or suggestion that could further cause you grave, serious legal problems?" and "What would you have done differently involving your relationship with the now-indicted Jack Abramoff, the Republican lobbyist? Looking back on that relationship that you had with him, what would you have done differently given what you know right now?" DeLay, of couse, said he would do nothing differently and he's done nothing wrong...

Which one of these members of Congress has been indicted for a felony? Which one is being treated like a felon?

Let's see if we can hold a few seemingly contradictory thoughts in our heads at once. Yes, Cynthia McKinney is an arrogant, self-aggrandizing shithead who deserves whatever backlash is coming her way. Yes, Tom DeLay is a skeevy cocksucker who has pissed in and poisoned the already-putrid wells of Washington. And both should be treated with contempt and pursued aggressively to show the cynicism and greed - for power, money, and/or attention - that drives them.

But you wanna know where the racism and sexism is here? It ain't with the Capitol cops (in this case), who are in a crappy position under the stress of terrorism neurosis that pervades everything. It's with the media, who act with deference towards a white male thrice-admonished alleged felon who has intimate connections with convicted felons and who feel free to attack the black woman who has yet to be charged with anything.

Oh, and that's not to mention that McKinney's a Democrat and DeLay's a Republican.


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ae35unit
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Posted on Thursday, April 6, 2006 - 1:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darn that liberal media!

Tom, you are so right, McKinney is an idiot. The observations on the way it's being handled by the media are dead on too.

Make smoke. Make smo-o-o-oke!
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Rastro
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Posted on Thursday, April 6, 2006 - 1:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060406/pl_nm/congress_mckinney_dc_1

I love the last line:

Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney apologized on Thursday over her run-in with a police officer at the U.S. Capitol that led to the congresswoman being investigated.

"I am sorry that misunderstanding happened at all and I regret its escalation and I apologize," the Georgia Democrat said in a short speech on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives.

U.S. Capitol Police on Monday gave its findings about McKinney to the U.S. Attorney's Office, which was deciding whether to charge the African-American congresswoman with a crime.

McKinney was confronted by a police officer last week after she went around a metal detector, as lawmakers are allowed to do, while not wearing the congressional lapel pin that would identify her as a member of Congress.

This week, McKinney accused the police of racial profiling in stopping her at the security checkpoint in a House office building.

McKinney reportedly poked the police officer with her cell phone when he stopped her.

McKinney's apology was met with applause on the House floor.

House Republicans have tried to draw attention to McKinney's run-in with police as they have struggled with the political fallout related to this week's resignation of former Majority Leader Tom DeLay, a Texas Republican.




Foj, so it appears she poked him with her cell phone.
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Hoops
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Post Number: 1072
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Posted on Thursday, April 6, 2006 - 2:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

McKinney apologizes
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cjc
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Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 6, 2006 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think Rude Pundit is off base. DeLay would have gotten the McKinney treatment if McKinney's infraction was months old and the DeLay story broke in the last 5 days. However DeLay would have said "I did not launder money" and he's repeatedly denied the charges when asked. Not so McKinney. They'll keep asking her until she answers the question.

McKinney, though, may have been advised by her lawyer not to answer to the charge specifically.
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tulip
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Post Number: 3391
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 6, 2006 - 7:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Smokescreen...again.

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