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Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13716
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 3:52 pm: | 
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Thank you for reminding us that education of children is a much bigger issue than second hand smoke. I suppose it's easier and therefore hipper, in some odd way, to complain about civil liberties of smokers and non-smokers.
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las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1604
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 3:54 pm: |
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I guess my point was that smoking isn't a civil liberty - education isn't even one, but it IS guaranteed under the law. And our most vulnerable citizens are not getting an appropriate one. |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1605
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 4:20 pm: |
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Just spoke with someone at Foster Care and Adoptive Services (DYFS) who stated quite clearly there is no education policy for foster children.
That cannot be correct. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13719
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 4:27 pm: |
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I don't follow what you're after. What would a policy state? If a child lives in town X, town X owes the child a free and effective education. This is true even if the child lives there illegally or if the child and family live in a cardboard box by the side of the highway.
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las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1606
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 4:34 pm: |
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The problem is when students are getting dropped in placement after placement there is no one accountable to ensure their school records are being forwarded and they receive any accommodations they might require to learn. Sure they'll go to school, they just might not learn.
All I have been looking for is an advocate, someone whose job it is to make sure student records are being forwarded and they are receiving the special ed services they require.
I'll do it for free if someone can find me a husband with enough money to support us - that's why I've been going to school. |
The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1254
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 4:45 pm: |
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las-
Wow, you are on a mission!
What was the "whatever" for?
Call it simplistic thinking but I find it hard to believe that a group of people (pro-lifers) who emphasize adoption over abortion would not provide any relief/assistance to foster children. I did find many Christian organizations online who offer such services which makes sense.
Is DYFS state runned? I never heard of it. I think our answer may be in the private sector....
-SLK |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13721
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 4:55 pm: |
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First, thanks, las, for clarifying.
SLK, if I may speak for her, I think she started the thread because she is a social worker (or learning to be one) for foster children. And the resources are inadequate, and she compared them to those for fetuses or embryos.
DYFS = division of family and youth services. Yes, it's a state agency, and yes, it's underfunded. I suppose they could take private contributions. But this is the sort of thing for which there is no market, so to speak. The kids can't raise the funds, that's for sure.
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las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1607
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 4:56 pm: |
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Sorry, Scrotis - the 'whatever' was my comment to your creative interpretation of the facts of the earlier post I referenced in (a). I should have noted the 'whatever' as an (a)(i), or simply made it a part of (a). Sorry my sarcasm caused confusion.
Yes, DYFS is state run.
This isn't just about foster kids though. This is education. We've got parents in our very own communities who fight so hard for their childrens' educations, yet here is a population who doesn't have that luxury. I honestly believe if we don't educate our children from birth (starting when they are border babies), they will grow up without a sense of self and make poor choices and have their very own children in foster care some day. Education is everything. Most of us on this forum are rich enough to know that.
Sorry for the preach.
-Lynn |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1608
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 7:40 pm: |
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she is a social worker (or learning to be one) for foster children
Close, Tom, special ed teacher. Other than that, you speak better for me than I do! Clarify any time! |
finnegan
Supporter
Username: Finnegan
Post Number: 333
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 7:58 pm: |
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las,
I know at least one Special Education Advocate who, in addition to making her living as an Advocate, also volunteers to serve as an advocate for classified students in the care of DYFS. I'm pretty sure she had to take a special state run course on being an educational advocate to do so, and the course may have been offered by DYFS. Still, from what I've heard, no one really is paying attention to these kids. Sometimes, one of the advocates tells me, she'll go to an IEP meeting, and no one in the school has even looked at the kids' IEP in the past year - and, surprise! the student has not met a single one of the goals or objectives in their IEP.
PL me if you want me to get in touch with the Advocate I know and ask her about the state-run program she went through.
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las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1609
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 8:09 pm: |
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surprise! the student has not met a single one of the goals or objectives in their IEP.
Shocking!...not.
I did sent you a p/l, Finnegan. Thank you.
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Arnomation
Citizen
Username: Arnomation
Post Number: 524
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 8:30 am: |
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If the government recognizes that life begins at conception then you should be able to claim your unborn child as a tax deduction |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1613
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 10:44 am: |
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PL 107-110 (No Child Left Behind) (NCLB) has one reference to Foster Children:
Section 5451. Inexpensive Book Distribution Program for Reading Motivation.
(c) Requirements of Contract [between government and private entity who will distribute inexpensive books]:
(3) A provision that, in selecting subcontractors for initial funding, the contactor will give priority to programsthat will serve a substantial number or perfentage of children with special needs, such as the following:
(D) Foster Children.
oops...I think some children were left behind. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1850
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
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The GOP M.O.: Love the fetus, hate the child. |
Darryl Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7055
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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the liberal M.O. hate the fetus, hate the child, love the terrorist. |
Eats Shoots & Leaves
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 3273
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:18 am: |
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Embrace your inner Osama. |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1615
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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Eyes on the prize, boys; no one likes these kids.
Scrotis, you mention all the Christian organizations online. Even in our lovely Garden State, it is public policy "to select community- and faith-based organizations" to to hire and supervise mentors (as stated in our Office of Children's Services Child Welfare Reform Plan dated June 2004).
This is for pay ($100/month to mentors). Even the good Lord's people won't deal with our foster children. |
The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1267
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:38 pm: |
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Must I say it again?
The liberal MO: Fry the baby, spare the rapist
-SLK
RL welcome back, been on vacation my dear archnemesis?
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dave23
Citizen
Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1670
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 1:32 pm: |
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Mmmm... fried babies...
"Somewhere in the world, a baby is born every 1.7 seconds. This means, that in the time it takes to fry an egg in a conventional frying pan, over 137 babies have been born. Unless you like your egg really crispy and golden brown on the outside like I do, in which case you could have over 200 really crispy, fried babies. Or, if you're cooking on gas, about 194. But of course the real problem, is that by far the great majority of these fried eggs are born in areas least able to support them." |
iangrodman_0
Citizen
Username: Iangrodman_0
Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:01 pm: |
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I do some work as an attorney for the Law Guardian Unit of the Public Defenders Office. The Law Guardian unit was specifically created to provide representation for foster children in the state of New Jersey who are in the custody or under the supervision of DYFS. The Law Guardians ensure that all of their clients receive the medical, psychological, emotional, and educational services required by New Jersey statute. A good law guardian can often achieve even better results than the statutory minimums. If you know of a foster child who is not receiving appropriate services, help him or her to contact their law guardian. The law guardians typically have large caseloads, but will get back to you as soon as they can. Contact me offline if you need any further assistance.
Ian Grodman |
The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1284
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:25 pm: |
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dave23-
The maybe these fried eggs should stop having, well, eggs...
-SLK |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1621
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:43 pm: |
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Thanks, Ian. I p/l'd you.
-Lynn |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 1633
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 1:10 pm: |
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I was just searching on the HHS website and came across the National Clearninghouse on Child Abuse and Neglect Information page - links to reports, papers, guides, etc. (http://nccanch.acf.hhs.gov/topics/responding/foster.cfm). About half way down the page there is a report entitled, Fostering Hope: Preventing Teen Pregancy Among Youth in Foster Care. So far I'd clicked on links and gotten a pdf. Use the word "pregnancy" and heavens to mergatory! You are redirected:
You are about to leave the National Clearinghouse on Child Abuse and Neglect website to link to another location that is not maintained by the Clearinghouse.
The Clearinghouse takes no responsibility for and exercises no control over the views that may be represented, or the accuracy, privacy policies, copyright or trademark compliance, or the legality of any material contained on external sites.
Meanwhile, this very article about teen pregnancy and foster children cites child after child commenting on all the pregnancy lessons s/he didn't learn at home or in school.
I agree with the censors: sweep it away, hide it. Glad they're on the job keeping us all safe and healthy. |
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