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maplescorp
Citizen Username: Maplescorp
Post Number: 148 Registered: 12-2005

| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 5:17 pm: |
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A Presidential Scholar and Princeton Historian makes the case: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_in_hi story?rnd=1145913410037&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1483 |
   
Darryl Strawberry
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7087 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 5:29 pm: |
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yes, Rolling Stone Magazine.. What's wrong, the link to Mad Magazine wasn't working? libs.  |
   
Duncan
Supporter Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6248 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 6:12 pm: |
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Whats the matter Straw...afraid of reaching out to the next voting block? The demographic that will rule your kids world?? Thats whats funny, is how you wear your fear on your sleeve. |
   
Southerner
Citizen Username: Southerner
Post Number: 938 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 7:21 pm: |
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Duncan, Just because you haven't matured past 17 doesn't mean the electorate won't. If you believe the next generation is a Democratic voting block then you will probably end up as one of those bumbling old guys ranting about the youth. Let's get back together in 20 years and see who is running the show. We've seen where the youth of the 70's and 80's has put us. Or do you need a reminder - White House, check. House of Representatives, check. U.S. Senate, check. Governorships, check. State Legislatures, check. Yup, those pesky X gens did wonders for your party. You better get to those 3rd graders fast. |
   
Darryl Strawberry
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7088 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 7:27 pm: |
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Duncan must be new to Rolling Stone Magazine.. It was supposed to change the world 30 years ago...I guess its time has finally come.. libs..  |
   
maplescorp
Citizen Username: Maplescorp
Post Number: 149 Registered: 12-2005

| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 7:45 pm: |
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Nice kneejerk reaction to the magazine. Now meet the guy who guest wrote the article. (Though I suppose all you guys are on the Executive Board of the Society of American Historians, too) SEAN WILENTZ Dayton-Stockon Professor of History Director, Program in American Studies Department of History Dickinson Hall Princeton University Princeton, New Jersey 08544 EMPLOYMENT Professor Department of History Princeton University 1987 - Contributing Editor The New Republic 1994 - Associate Professor Department of History Princeton University 1985 - 1987 Assistant Professor Department of History Princeton University 1979 - 1985 EDUCATION Ph.D., Yale University, 1980. M. Phil., Yale University, 1976. M.A., Yale University, 1975. B.A., Balliol College, Oxford University, 1974. BA., Columbia College, Columbia University, 1972. AWARDS, HONORS AND FELLOWSHIPS Cotsen Family Faculty Fellowship, 1994-1997 (for excellence in teaching). Fellowship, John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation, 1990-91. University Teachers Fellowship, National Endowment for the Humanities, 1990-91 (declined) Fellowship, American Council of Learned Societies/Ford Foundation, 1986. Frederick Jackson Turner Award, Organization of American Historians, 1985 (for Chants Democratic) Annual Book Award, Society for the History of the Early American Republic, 1985 (for Chants Democratic). Albert J. Beveridge Award, American Historical Association, 1984 (for Chants Democratic). Edward Gaylord Bourne Medal for excellence in historical studies, Yale University, 1983. Philip and Beulah Rollins Preceptorship in History, Princeton University, 1982-1985. Theron Rockwell Field Prize, Yale University, 1980. George Washington Eggleston Prize, Yale University, 1980. Chanler Historical Prize, Columbia College, 1972. Phi Beta Kappa, Columbia College, 1972. PUBLICATIONS BOOKS: (with Paul E. Johnson) The Kingdom of Matthias: A Story of Sex and Salvation in 19th Century America (New York: Oxford University Press, 1994), 222 pp. (with Michael Merrill) The Key of Liberty: The Life and Democratic Writings of William Manning. "A Laborer." 1747-1814 (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1993), 240 pp. (ed.) Major Problems in the Early Republic (Lexington, Mass.: D.C. Heath, 1992), 568 pp. (ed.) Rites of Power: Symbolism. Ritual. and Politics Since the Middle Ages (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1985), 350 pp. Chants Democratic: New York City & the Rise of the American Working Class. 1788-1850 (New York: Oxford University Press, 1984), 446 pp. ARTICLES AND ESSAYS (excluding brief reviews): (with Christine Stansell) "Cole's America," in William H. Treuttner and Alan Wallach, eds., Thomas Cole: Landscape Into History (Washington, D.C.: National Museum of American Art., 1994). "The Election of 1840," in Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., ed., Running for President: The Candidates and Their Images (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1994). "Hearts and Souls," on W.E.B. DuBois, The New Republic, March 20, 1994. (with Michael Merrill), "The Key of Liberty: William Manning and Plebeian Democracy, 1747-1814," in Alfred F. Young, ed., Beyond The American Revolution (DeKalb: Northern Illinois University Press, 1993. "Pox Populi" (on Ross Perot in historical perspective), New Republic, August 14, 1993. "Tales of Hoffa," The New Republic, February 1, 1993. "Low Life, High Art" (on George Bellows), The New Republic, September 28, 1992. "A Triumph of the Gilded Age" (on the Homestead strike), New York Review of Books, October 22, 1992. (with Daniel T. Rodgers), "Languages of Power in the United States," in Penelope Corfield, ed., Language. Class and History (Oxford: Basil Blackwell, 1991). Entries on Andrew Jackson, Jacksonian Democracy, and Frances Wright, in Eric Foner and John Garraty, eds., The Readers' Companion to American History (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1991). "Society, Politics, and the Market Revolution, 1815-1848," in Eric Foner, ed., The New American History (Philadelphia: Temple University Press, 1990). "Property and Power: Suffrage Reform in the United States, 1787-1860," in Donald W. Rogers, ed., Voting and the Spirit of American Democracy (Hartford: University of Hartford, 1990). "The Trials of Televangelism," in Nicolaus Mills, ed., Culture in an Age of Money: The Legacy of the 1980's in America (Chicago: Ivan R. Dee, 1990). "The Rise of the American Working Class, 1776-1877: A Survey," in J. Carroll Moody and Alice Kessler-Harris, eds. , Perspectives on American Labor History (DeKalb: Northern Illinois University Press, 1990). "Local Hero" (on Saul Alinsky), The New Republic, December 25, 1989. "The New History and Its Critics: A Look at Gertrude Himmelfarb's Complaint," Dissent (Spring, 1989). (with Christine Stansell) "Gutman's Legacy," Labor History, vol. 29, no. 3 (Spring, 1988): 378-390. "Many Democracies: On Tocqueville and Jacksonian America," in Abraham Eisenstadt, ed., Reconsidering Tocqueville's Democracy in America (New Brunswick: Rutgers University Press, 1988). "Repubblicanesimo americano: xenofobia, mutualita e liberta nella citta di New York," in Loretta Valtz Mannucci, ed. , Gli Stati Uniti nell'eta di Jackson (Bologna: Mulino, 1987). "Land, Labor, and Politics in Jacksonian America," Reviews in American History, 14 (1986): 200-209. "On Working-Class Culture in the United States: A Report and Some Reflections," Mezzosecolo 5 (1983/84): 27-42 (written in 1982, published in 1986). "A Reply to Criticism," International Labor and Working Class History, 28 (1985): 46-55. "Against Exceptionalism: Class Consciousness and the American Labor Movement, 1790-1920," International Labor and Working Class History, 26 (1984): 1-24. (with Michael A. Bernstein), "Marketing, Commerce, and Capitalism in Rural Massachusetts," Journal of Economic History 44 (1985): 171-73. "Power, Conspiracy, and the Early Labor Movement: The People V. James Melvin, 1811," Labor History 24 (1983): 572-579. "Artisan Republican Festivals and the Rise of Class Conflict in New York City 1788-1837," in Michael A. Frisch and Daniel J. Walkowitz, Working-Class America: Essays on Labor Community. and Society (Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1983), 37-77. "On Class and Politics in Jacksonian America," Reviews in American History 10 (1982): 45-63. "Artisan Origins of the American Working Class," International Labor and Working Class History 18 (1981): 1-22. "Crime, Poverty, and the Streets of New York City: The Diary of William H. Bell, 1850-51," History Workshop, No. 7 (1979): 126-155. "Industrializing American and the Irish: Towards the New Departure," Labor History 20 (1979): 579-595. REVIEWS, etc. (1992-94 only) "A Sense of the Past," review of E.L. Doctorow, The Waterworks. Dissent, Fall, 1994. "With God on Our Side," review of Robert Abzug, Cosmos Crumbling: American Reform and the Religious Imagination, The New Republic, September, 1994. "The Question," (with Eugene D. Genovese, et al.), Dissent, Summer, 1994. "The Left After 40 Years" (with Joanne Barkan, et al.), Dissent, Winter 1994. "Debs in Love," review of J. Robert Constantine, Letters of Eugene V. Debs, Dissent, Winter, 1993. Untitled review of Jonathan Glickstein, Concepts of Free Labor in Antebellum America. American Historical Review, 97 (1992): 1594-95. (with Michael Merrill), "The Big House," on Congressional enlargement, The New Republic (with Michael Merrill), November 16, 1992. "Over the Hill," review of George Will, Restoration: Congress Term Limits. and the Recovery of Deliberative Democracy, The New Republic, October 12, 1992. "The original Outsider," review of Charles C. Sellers, Jr The Market Revolution, The New Republic, June 22, 1992. Untitled review of Shane White, Somewhat More Independent The End of Slavery in New York City. 1770-1810. Journal of Interdisciplinary History 23 (Summer, 1992): 197-199. Untitled review of Alexander Saxton, The Rise and Fall of the White Republic, International Labor and Working-Class History, No. 42 (Fall, 1992): 141-143. "1492: A Symposium" (with Natalie Zemon Davis, et al.), Tikkun, September-October, 1992. "War on Labor Explains Labor's Decline," New York Times, February 7, 1992. Previously, I have written approximately three dozen reviews for various publications, including The New York Times Book Review. London Review of Books, The New Republic, The Nation, Dissent, Tikkun, The Village Voice, American Historical Review, Journal of Southern History, Journal of Interdisciplinary History, and Labor History. Since 1993, I have written approximately a dozen reviews for the History Book Club. IN PRESS David Walker, Appeal to the Coloured Citizens of the World, ed. and with a new introduction (New York: Hill and Wang, due 1995). "Socialism," in Richard W. Fox and James Kloppenberg, A Companion to American Thought (Oxford: Basil Blackwell, due 1995). Papers and Professional Appearances (1992-94 only) Commentator: Colloque on Citizenship and The Working Class, Maison des Sciences de L'Home, Paris, October 1994. (with Michael Merrill), "Plebeian Democracy in the Age of Revolution," Annual Meeting of the Organization of American Historians, Atlanta, April 1994. "Jacksonion Abolitionism: The Odyssey of William Leggett," Annual Commonwealth Conference, University of London, February 1994. "Symbolism, Politics, and Memory," Consultant and director, two-day workshop, University of Texas at El Paso, March 1993. "Plebeian Democracy in the Early Republic," Ecole des Hautes Etudes en Sciences Sociales, Paris, February 1993. "On the Age of Jackson," invited conference, "The Age of Schlesinger: An Historical Conversation," Graduate Center, City University of New York, December 1992. "Herbert Gutman and the Politics of Social History," conference, "Paterson at 200," William Paterson College, Wayne, New Jersey, December 1992. "William Manning and the Invention of American Politics," Yale University, May 1992. Comment: "The Historical Whitman," lecture series commemorating the centenary of Whitman's death, Museum of the City of New York, March 1992. Previously, I have delivered approximately fifty papers, lectures, and comments at various universities and professional gatherings, among them Harvard University, the Johns Hopkins University, Duke University, the University of Pennsylvania, Rutgers University, University of Connecticut, Memphis State University, Brooklyn College, University of Milan, Johann von Goethe Universitat (Frankfurt), the Japanese American Studies Association, Kyoto University, University of Utah, University of California at Irvine, American Historical Association, Organization of American Historians, Southern Historical Association. In 1988, I delivered the annual Alexander C. Flick lecture to the New York State Historical Association; in 1991, I delivered the annual Society of the Cincinnati lecture at Washington and Lee University. IN PROGRESS The Rise of American Democracy. 1787-1860, under contract to W.W. Norton and Company MISCELLANEOUS Executive Board, Society of American Historians, 1992- Fellow, Society of American Historians, 1988- Executive Board, Dissent, 1993- Editorial Board, Dissent, 1990 University Press Board, Princeton University Press, 1992- Editorial Board, History Book Club, 1993- Co-editor, University of Illinois Press series on the working class in American history, 1985- Editorial Board, International Labor and Working Class History, 1984- Judge, Bancroft Prize, Columbia University, 1992. Judge, Non-Fiction, National Book Awards, 1991.
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Darryl Strawberry
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7089 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:31 pm: |
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right, a liberal mouthpiece... |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 4803 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:58 pm: |
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as opposed to you? |
   
joel dranove
Citizen Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 404 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 9:39 pm: |
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Well, he certainly mastered the art of publishing, so he will not perish from this earth. jd |
   
LibraryLady..
Supporter Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3320 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 9:57 pm: |
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A a large majority of Americans seem now to agree withSean Wilentz (Where were they for the last two elections????) www.cnn.com
Quote: Bush's approval ratings slide to new low Poll: Only one-third say he's handling his job well
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maplescorp
Citizen Username: Maplescorp
Post Number: 150 Registered: 12-2005

| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 9:59 pm: |
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Answer, Library Lady: Fooled, enticed, and lied to. |
   
Nohero
Supporter Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5335 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 10:10 pm: |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. President Bush has them high-fiving over at the Warren G. Harding presidential library, because they know that their days at the bottom of the list will soon be over. |
   
Foj
Citizen Username: Foger
Post Number: 1208 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 10:33 pm: |
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Nohero.....  |
   
tom connelly
Citizen Username: Brightontom
Post Number: 43 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 4:24 pm: |
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Jimmy Carter really sucked. And Gerry Ford was no day at the beach, |
   
Robert Livingston
Citizen Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1864 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 4:42 pm: |
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You can say what you want about Rolling Stone, but this is how Bush will be remembered. Incompetent. Worst president ever. That will be his legacy (well, along with permanent U.S. war in the Middle East, never capturing Bin Laden, gas gouging for fun and profit, giving the finger to New Orleans, and, of course, those baffling seven minutes where he did absolutely nothing...) Like it or not, think it's a joke or not, Rolling Stone is a cultural touchstone. |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 4808 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 5:43 pm: |
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And lying about who gets the tax cuts, lying how much prescription drug coverage would cost, allowing his cronies to get away with the California electricity crisis of 2001, never catching the anthrax killer, a thousand idiot malapropisms. Coming soon: the total isolation of the United States after preemptively nuking Iran. Economic sanctions, boycotts, violence against tourists. And oh yeah, the mass radicalization of the middle east. Violent overthrows of governments in Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey. And so on. |
   
tulip
Citizen Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3456 Registered: 3-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 5:50 pm: |
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...and the ports, and the wiretaps...and the "collateral" killings in a war of choice. |
   
chroma
Citizen Username: Chroma
Post Number: 32 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 9:24 am: |
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You have to wonder about the mainstream media when someone as qualified as Wilentz has to resort to putting that article in a publication like Rolling Stone... |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 4815 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 11:27 am: |
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Rolling Stone is pretty mainstream. Its political writing is very serious, and its circulation is comparable to name-brand magazines like Vogue, Car & Driver, Popular Mechanics, Vanity Fair.
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