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notehead
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Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3227
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 2:10 pm: | 
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Honestly, I thought the routine was courageous, but Colbert wasn't really "on". His material was pretty good and he pretty much had his game face on, but his timing was weak. Then again, even with the experience he's gained in the past few years, his guts must have been tied in a knot while he was up there. Unfortunately, the video he presented was also VERY lame. |
Foj
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Username: Foger
Post Number: 1284
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 4:32 pm: |
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notehead
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Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3242
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 2:35 pm: |
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Caption: "Y'know, I'd tell one of my security men to KILL this guy, but Dick and Karl would be really mad. I sure do wish I was fishing, or riding my bike, or clearing brush with my cowboy hat on." |
chroma
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Username: Chroma
Post Number: 36
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - 10:20 am: |
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Don't believe the GOP talking points. Watch the video. They laughed: plenty and loud. |
Foj
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Username: Foger
Post Number: 1309
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 9:34 pm: |
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YUP |
SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1812
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 9:42 pm: |
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Watch it while you can. C-SPAN has requested that all of the video services pull the Colbert speech from their websites. |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5595
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 9:44 pm: |
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Nope. Went over as well as Imus did when he took his turn during the Clinton Administration, and in that he gave up some humor that conservatives should have supposedly loved. Instead, he bombed, as did Colbert.
Unfunny is unfunny no matter what your political stripe is even if they're playing to you.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5377
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 9:48 pm: |
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Sorry, but it was hilarious.
Cjc, you've had a week. What was in bad taste?
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SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1815
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 9:52 pm: |
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I thought Imus' "Speech from Hell" was pretty funny too. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5597
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 9:54 pm: |
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Nohero -- Hoyer thought it was in bad taste. I just thought it wasn't funny. I'm not necessarily opposed to things that are tasteless. I do live in New Jersey, after all. |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 2094
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 9:54 pm: |
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and funny is in the eye (or ear) of the beholder. maybe the people in the room didn't think it was funny (and why would they, when they were the butt of half the jokes?), but millions of people who watched it at home thought it was. And to compare it to Imus? read the transcripts of each. Imus wasn't even coherent, much less funny. Got to give Colbert credit for one thing. at least his speech made sense, unlike Imus. |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5598
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 9:57 pm: |
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I missed the story where millions of people were laughing at this. This was C-Span, after all. Where did you get that? |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5379
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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Cjc - Sorry, dude, but you're clearly backpedalling.
Got nothing other than tired old NJ stereotypes, is that it? 
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cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5600
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:08 pm: |
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Nohero -- you should be sorry. At no time did I say the routine was tasteless. I was responding in that thread to those who thought Colbert was hilarious, and who took Straw (?) to task on his remark that Colbert was tasteless. To back up my point that he wasn't funny and give a nod to Straw, I found a partisan hack from the Democrats who also thought it was a tasteless routine.
As for NJ stereotypes, it may be tired but it's very much alive. |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5383
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:13 pm: |
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See my previous post.  |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5602
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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I saw it, Nohero. Did you read mine? You've got no case.  |
ffof
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Username: Ffof
Post Number: 4707
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:23 pm: |
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It was perfect true-to-form Colbert. He basically just did his show. THe point of his humor is to make people feel uncomfortable. And he did. I thought it was great. |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5384
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:24 pm: |
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Cjc - Well, if you liked it so much, why did you feel the need to attack a simple comedy routine?
Back to you ... |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5603
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:33 pm: |
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Nice ruse. My 9 year old uses them all the time. I simply said it was unfunny. Others said it was tasteless. There's room for you to backpedal even more if you choose to. |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5385
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:38 pm: |
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Well, if you simply said it was unfunny, I disagree.
Can we stop, now? |
ffof
Citizen
Username: Ffof
Post Number: 4708
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:39 pm: |
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It was unfunny to those who believe in the administration and all that they do (or don't do). It was tasteless to those who felt sorry Bush had to be subjected to a little truthiness. It was funny to the rest of us.
why stop now, this is just getting going! |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 4891
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:47 pm: |
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It was funny, but a different kind of funny. It was sort of how I feel watching an old Andy Kaufman routine, where I'm thinking "I can't believe he's really doing this." Meta-funny, to be a little postmodern.
Quote:"If something is boring after two minutes, try it for four. If still boring, then eight. Then sixteen. Then thirty-two. Eventually one discovers that it is not boring at all." --John Cage.
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Jersey_Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 786
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:38 pm: |
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Seriously, who is in charge of booking this event? Did Bush's own staff invite Colbert, or did the Press Correspondents invite both Colbert and Bush?
J.B. |
Project 37
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Username: Project37
Post Number: 76
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 7:32 am: |
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J.B., are you suggesting that the administration didn't do all of their research before approving a decision?!?!?
Blog plug:
http://www.project37.net/index.php/2006/05/05/whos-stephen-colbert/ |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 2095
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 8:55 am: |
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the video was one of the web's most popular downloads last week, so it was seen by many more people than watched on C-Span. was it millions, or was it hundreds of thousands? does it really matter? a lot of people saw it, and many of them thought it was spot on.
the whole discussion of whether or not it was funny is beside the point. It was ironic, which is really not a way to be laugh out loud funny. It was Colbert doing what he always does, which is rarely hilarious stuff.
was it unfair or in bad taste? how could it be when Colbert was simply lampooning all the stuff Bush braggingly says about himself. He is proud to say he ignores polls, eschews analysis and deep thought, and refuses to change course when things go wrong. How is it unfair for Colbert to send up that image and show how ludicrous it is? An unwavering, unthinking, go-from-the-gut leader who lacks the capacity to adapt is if anything, more tragic than funny. So of course it wasn't laugh out loud funny. It's too close to the very unfunny truth of Bush's presidency. |
tulip
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Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3505
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 4:28 pm: |
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Exactly. Words to the following effect, "Do I listen to polls? Of course not! Who needs to pay attention to polls? I know what to do! I go with my gut. When my gut tells me something is wrong or right, I believe it! Who needs science?! These guys who say they are going on science, it's just nonsense!"
Hysterical, and he looked right at Bush. I couldn't believe it. It was fantastic. |
Lydia
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Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1839
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 5:53 pm: |
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I thought it was great - Colbert spoke truthiness to power.
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cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5608
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 10:42 pm: |
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Boogie -- the whole performance doesn't matter. Espcially if only "a lot of people" saw it. Think MSNBC or Air America and the impact they have(n't).
It was a comedy routine that wasn't laugh out loud funny. "Did you hear the crowd? Silence! I was KILLING THEM!!!"
No wonder the guy's only on cable. |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 2096
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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if your point is that popularity is the only thing that matters, maybe we should make the winner of "American Idol" the next president. |
ffof
Citizen
Username: Ffof
Post Number: 4710
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 11:10 pm: |
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cjc- there's comedy and there's truthiness. Colbert's a master of truthiness, but his audience that night was obviously unindoctrinated. They thought it was going to be comedy. Ho ho ho, little did they know. |
Jersey_Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 812
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 11:50 pm: |
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I'm serious, who booked him? Was this a Bush administrion goof, or an intentional set-up?
That's a good question! If I do say so myself.
And I do.
J.B. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1321
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:51 am: |
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IIRC the Press part of the equation handles that. |
Jersey_Boy
Citizen
Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 813
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 7:38 am: |
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IIRC? I don't know those letters.
J.B. |
Project 37
Citizen
Username: Project37
Post Number: 78
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 7:40 am: |
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IIRC = If I Remember Correctly |
Lydia
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Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1843
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 8:28 pm: |
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cjc -
With all due respect:
Quote:No wonder the guy's only on cable.
Steve Colbert was a writer for SNL, worked while he was at 2nd City with everyone from Tina Fey, Chris Farley, to Jeff Garlin. Won several Ace awards for "Exit 57", co-starred in "Bewitched" opposite Will Farrell, has a MAJOR MOTION PICTURE coming out that he is starring in and co-wrote, co-wrote "Wigfield" (an underground hit) and contributed to "America - the Book", and was voted one of THE people who shape New York (or something like that) by New York Magazine.
He's not just cable dude. |
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